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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jgg@nvidia.com,
	jhubbard@nvidia.com, tjmercier@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	surenb@google.com, mkoutny@suse.com, daniel@ffwll.ch,
	"Daniel P . Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:01:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fdd3bd7d-526d-d441-00f1-e8321441174e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.c238416f0e82377b449846dbb2459ae9d7030c8e.1675669136.git-series.apopple@nvidia.com>

On 06.02.23 08:47, Alistair Popple wrote:
> Having large amounts of unmovable or unreclaimable memory in a system
> can lead to system instability due to increasing the likelihood of
> encountering out-of-memory conditions. Therefore it is desirable to
> limit the amount of memory users can lock or pin.
> 
>  From userspace such limits can be enforced by setting
> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK. However there is no standard method that drivers and
> other in-kernel users can use to check and enforce this limit.
> 
> This has lead to a large number of inconsistencies in how limits are
> enforced. For example some drivers will use mm->locked_mm while others
> will use mm->pinned_mm or user->locked_mm. It is therefore possible to
> have up to three times RLIMIT_MEMLOCKED pinned.
> 
> Having pinned memory limited per-task also makes it easy for users to
> exceed the limit. For example drivers that pin memory with
> pin_user_pages() it tends to remain pinned after fork. To deal with
> this and other issues this series introduces a cgroup for tracking and
> limiting the number of pages pinned or locked by tasks in the group.
> 
> However the existing behaviour with regards to the rlimit needs to be
> maintained. Therefore the lesser of the two limits is
> enforced. Furthermore having CAP_IPC_LOCK usually bypasses the rlimit,
> but this bypass is not allowed for the cgroup.
> 
> The first part of this series converts existing drivers which
> open-code the use of locked_mm/pinned_mm over to a common interface
> which manages the refcounts of the associated task/mm/user
> structs. This ensures accounting of pages is consistent and makes it
> easier to add charging of the cgroup.
> 
> The second part of the series adds the cgroup controller and converts
> core mm code such as mlock over to charging the cgroup before finally
> introducing some selftests.
> 
> Rather than adding onto an exisiting cgroup controller such as memcg
> we introduce a new controller. This is primarily because we wish to
> limit the total number of pages tasks within a cgroup may pin/lock.
> 
> As I don't have access to systems with all the various devices I
> haven't been able to test all driver changes. Any help there would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Note that this series is based on v6.2-rc5 and
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rdma/20230201115540.360353-1-bmt@zurich.ibm.com/
> which makes updating the siw driver easier (thanks Bernard).
> 
> Changes from initial RFC:
> 
>   - Fixes to some driver error handling.
> 
>   - Pages charged with vm_account will always increment mm->pinned_vm
>     and enforce the limit against user->locked_vm or mm->pinned_vm
>     depending on initialisation flags.
> 
>   - Moved vm_account prototypes and struct definitions into a separate header.
> 
>   - Minor updates to commit messages and kernel docs (thanks to Jason,
>     Christoph, Yosry and T.J.).
> 
> Outstanding issues:
> 
>   - David H pointed out that the vm_account naming is potentially
>     confusing and I agree. However I have yet to come up with something
>     better so will rename this in a subsequent version of this series
>     (suggestions welcome).


vm_lockaccount ? vm_pinaccount ?

Less confusing than reusing VM_ACCOUNT which translates to "commit 
accounting".

Might also make sense to rename VM_ACCOUNT to VM_COMMIT or sth like that.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Hildenbrand <david-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	jgg-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	jhubbard-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	tjmercier-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
	surenb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org,
	daniel-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org,
	"Daniel P . Berrange"
	<berrange-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Alex Williamson
	<alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 12:01:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fdd3bd7d-526d-d441-00f1-e8321441174e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.c238416f0e82377b449846dbb2459ae9d7030c8e.1675669136.git-series.apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 06.02.23 08:47, Alistair Popple wrote:
> Having large amounts of unmovable or unreclaimable memory in a system
> can lead to system instability due to increasing the likelihood of
> encountering out-of-memory conditions. Therefore it is desirable to
> limit the amount of memory users can lock or pin.
> 
>  From userspace such limits can be enforced by setting
> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK. However there is no standard method that drivers and
> other in-kernel users can use to check and enforce this limit.
> 
> This has lead to a large number of inconsistencies in how limits are
> enforced. For example some drivers will use mm->locked_mm while others
> will use mm->pinned_mm or user->locked_mm. It is therefore possible to
> have up to three times RLIMIT_MEMLOCKED pinned.
> 
> Having pinned memory limited per-task also makes it easy for users to
> exceed the limit. For example drivers that pin memory with
> pin_user_pages() it tends to remain pinned after fork. To deal with
> this and other issues this series introduces a cgroup for tracking and
> limiting the number of pages pinned or locked by tasks in the group.
> 
> However the existing behaviour with regards to the rlimit needs to be
> maintained. Therefore the lesser of the two limits is
> enforced. Furthermore having CAP_IPC_LOCK usually bypasses the rlimit,
> but this bypass is not allowed for the cgroup.
> 
> The first part of this series converts existing drivers which
> open-code the use of locked_mm/pinned_mm over to a common interface
> which manages the refcounts of the associated task/mm/user
> structs. This ensures accounting of pages is consistent and makes it
> easier to add charging of the cgroup.
> 
> The second part of the series adds the cgroup controller and converts
> core mm code such as mlock over to charging the cgroup before finally
> introducing some selftests.
> 
> Rather than adding onto an exisiting cgroup controller such as memcg
> we introduce a new controller. This is primarily because we wish to
> limit the total number of pages tasks within a cgroup may pin/lock.
> 
> As I don't have access to systems with all the various devices I
> haven't been able to test all driver changes. Any help there would be
> appreciated.
> 
> Note that this series is based on v6.2-rc5 and
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rdma/20230201115540.360353-1-bmt-OA+xvbQnYDHMbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org/
> which makes updating the siw driver easier (thanks Bernard).
> 
> Changes from initial RFC:
> 
>   - Fixes to some driver error handling.
> 
>   - Pages charged with vm_account will always increment mm->pinned_vm
>     and enforce the limit against user->locked_vm or mm->pinned_vm
>     depending on initialisation flags.
> 
>   - Moved vm_account prototypes and struct definitions into a separate header.
> 
>   - Minor updates to commit messages and kernel docs (thanks to Jason,
>     Christoph, Yosry and T.J.).
> 
> Outstanding issues:
> 
>   - David H pointed out that the vm_account naming is potentially
>     confusing and I agree. However I have yet to come up with something
>     better so will rename this in a subsequent version of this series
>     (suggestions welcome).


vm_lockaccount ? vm_pinaccount ?

Less confusing than reusing VM_ACCOUNT which translates to "commit 
accounting".

Might also make sense to rename VM_ACCOUNT to VM_COMMIT or sth like that.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-16 11:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06  7:47 [PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm: Introduce vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 02/19] drivers/vhost: Convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 03/19] drivers/vdpa: Convert vdpa to use the new vm_structure Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 04/19] infiniband/umem: Convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 05/19] RMDA/siw: " Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-12 17:32   ` Bernard Metzler
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 06/19] RDMA/usnic: convert " Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 07/19] vfio/type1: Charge pinned pages to pinned_vm instead of locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 08/19] vfio/spapr_tce: Convert accounting to pinned_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 09/19] io_uring: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06 15:29   ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-06 15:29     ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-07  1:03     ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-07  1:03       ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-07 14:28       ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-07 14:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07 14:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07 17:05           ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-07 17:05             ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-13 11:30             ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-13 11:30               ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 10/19] net: skb: Switch to using vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 11/19] xdp: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 12/19] kvm/book3s_64_vio: Convert account_locked_vm() to vm_account_pinned() Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 13/19] fpga: dfl: afu: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup for pinned memory Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06 21:01   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 21:01     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 21:14   ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 21:14     ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 22:32     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 22:32       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 22:36       ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 22:39         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 22:39           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 23:25           ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 23:25             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 23:34             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 23:34               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 23:40             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-06 23:40               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07  0:32               ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07  0:32                 ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07 12:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07 12:19                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-15 19:00                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15 19:00                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15 19:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-15 19:07                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-16  8:04                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-16  8:04                       ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-16 12:45                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-16 12:45                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 16:51                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 16:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 17:25                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 17:29                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 17:29                               ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 17:51                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 17:51                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 18:07                                 ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 18:07                                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:26                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 19:26                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 19:45                                     ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:45                                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:49                                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:49                                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:57                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22 11:38                                         ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-22 11:38                                           ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-22 12:57                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22 12:57                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22 22:59                                             ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-22 22:59                                               ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-23  0:05                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-23  0:35                                                 ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-23  0:35                                                   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-23  1:53                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23  1:53                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23  9:12                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-23 17:31                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 17:31                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 17:18                                                 ` T.J. Mercier
2023-02-23 17:28                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 17:28                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:03                                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-23 18:10                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:10                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:14                                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-23 18:14                                                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-23 18:15                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-23 18:17                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:17                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:22                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-23 18:22                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07  1:00           ` Waiman Long
2023-02-07  1:00             ` Waiman Long
2023-02-07  1:03             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07  1:50               ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-07  1:50                 ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm/util: Extend vm_account to charge pages against the pin cgroup Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm/util: Refactor account_locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm: Convert mmap and mlock to use account_locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm/mmap: Charge locked memory to pins cgroup Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06 21:12   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 19/19] selftests/vm: Add pins-cgroup selftest for mlock/mmap Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-16 11:01 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-02-16 11:01   ` [PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory David Hildenbrand

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