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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/13] riscv: introduce riscv_has_extension_[un]likely()
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:29:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8Qp0NcIPPGqUDGl@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230115154953.831-7-jszhang@kernel.org>

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Hey Jisheng,

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 11:49:46PM +0800, Jisheng Zhang wrote:
> Generally, riscv ISA extensions are fixed for any specific hardware
> platform, so a hart's features won't change after booting. This
> chacteristic makes it straightforward to use a static branch to check
> if a specific ISA extension is supported or not to optimize
> performance.
> 
> However, some ISA extensions such as SVPBMT and ZICBOM are handled
> via. the alternative sequences.
> 
> Basically, for ease of maintenance, we prefer to use static branches
> in C code, but recently, Samuel found that the static branch usage in
> cpu_relax() breaks building with CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE[1]. As
> Samuel pointed out, "Having a static branch in cpu_relax() is
> problematic because that function is widely inlined, including in some
> quite complex functions like in the VDSO. A quick measurement shows
> this static branch is responsible by itself for around 40% of the jump
> table."
> 
> Samuel's findings pointed out one of a few downsides of static branches
> usage in C code to handle ISA extensions detected at boot time:
> static branch's metadata in the __jump_table section, which is not
> discarded after ISA extensions are finalized, wastes some space.
> 
> I want to try to solve the issue for all possible dynamic handling of
> ISA extensions at boot time. Inspired by Mark[2], this patch introduces
> riscv_has_extension_*() helpers, which work like static branches but
> are patched using alternatives, thus the metadata can be freed after
> patching.
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20220922060958.44203-1-samuel@sholland.org/ [1]
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20220912162210.3626215-8-mark.rutland@arm.com/ [2]
> Signed-off-by: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>
> Reviewed-by: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>

It'd be great, if, in the future, you would hold off on sending new
versions of patchsets where the previous version is still being
discussed [3].
~3 days between versions is not very much, especially when that includes
a weekend!
I know you replied there earlier today with your opinion, but please
give people a chance to read and respond, before resubmitting, so as not
to split discussion between several threads.

3 - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/2398293.3Lj2Plt8kZ@diego/

Thanks,
Conor.


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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/13] riscv: introduce riscv_has_extension_[un]likely()
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:29:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8Qp0NcIPPGqUDGl@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230115154953.831-7-jszhang@kernel.org>


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Hey Jisheng,

On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 11:49:46PM +0800, Jisheng Zhang wrote:
> Generally, riscv ISA extensions are fixed for any specific hardware
> platform, so a hart's features won't change after booting. This
> chacteristic makes it straightforward to use a static branch to check
> if a specific ISA extension is supported or not to optimize
> performance.
> 
> However, some ISA extensions such as SVPBMT and ZICBOM are handled
> via. the alternative sequences.
> 
> Basically, for ease of maintenance, we prefer to use static branches
> in C code, but recently, Samuel found that the static branch usage in
> cpu_relax() breaks building with CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE[1]. As
> Samuel pointed out, "Having a static branch in cpu_relax() is
> problematic because that function is widely inlined, including in some
> quite complex functions like in the VDSO. A quick measurement shows
> this static branch is responsible by itself for around 40% of the jump
> table."
> 
> Samuel's findings pointed out one of a few downsides of static branches
> usage in C code to handle ISA extensions detected at boot time:
> static branch's metadata in the __jump_table section, which is not
> discarded after ISA extensions are finalized, wastes some space.
> 
> I want to try to solve the issue for all possible dynamic handling of
> ISA extensions at boot time. Inspired by Mark[2], this patch introduces
> riscv_has_extension_*() helpers, which work like static branches but
> are patched using alternatives, thus the metadata can be freed after
> patching.
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/20220922060958.44203-1-samuel@sholland.org/ [1]
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20220912162210.3626215-8-mark.rutland@arm.com/ [2]
> Signed-off-by: Jisheng Zhang <jszhang@kernel.org>
> Reviewed-by: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>

It'd be great, if, in the future, you would hold off on sending new
versions of patchsets where the previous version is still being
discussed [3].
~3 days between versions is not very much, especially when that includes
a weekend!
I know you replied there earlier today with your opinion, but please
give people a chance to read and respond, before resubmitting, so as not
to split discussion between several threads.

3 - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/2398293.3Lj2Plt8kZ@diego/

Thanks,
Conor.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-15 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-15 15:49 [PATCH v4 00/13] riscv: improve boot time isa extensions handling Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] riscv: fix jal offsets in patched alternatives Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] riscv: move riscv_noncoherent_supported() out of ZICBOM probe Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] riscv: cpufeature: detect RISCV_ALTERNATIVES_EARLY_BOOT earlier Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] riscv: hwcap: make ISA extension ids can be used in asm Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] riscv: cpufeature: extend riscv_cpufeature_patch_func to all ISA extensions Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-18 22:28   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-18 22:28     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] riscv: introduce riscv_has_extension_[un]likely() Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 16:29   ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-01-15 16:29     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-18 22:18   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-18 22:18     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] riscv: fpu: switch has_fpu() to riscv_has_extension_likely() Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] riscv: module: move find_section to module.h Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] riscv: switch to relative alternative entries Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-18 22:11   ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-18 22:11     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-20 18:34   ` Andrew Jones
2023-01-20 18:34     ` Andrew Jones
2023-01-26  7:09     ` Andrew Jones
2023-01-26  7:09       ` Andrew Jones
2023-01-28 16:43       ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-28 16:43         ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-26 19:33     ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-26 19:33       ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] riscv: alternative: patch alternatives in the vDSO Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] riscv: cpu_relax: switch to riscv_has_extension_likely() Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] riscv: KVM: Switch has_svinval() to riscv_has_extension_unlikely() Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-27  3:51   ` Anup Patel
2023-01-27  3:51     ` Anup Patel
2023-01-15 15:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] riscv: remove riscv_isa_ext_keys[] array and related usage Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-15 15:49   ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-01-25  3:50 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] riscv: improve boot time isa extensions handling patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2023-01-25  3:50   ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv

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