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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: vmalloc: Let user to control huge vmalloc default behavior
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:48:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YegWneON2voE9htO@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93db576e-9a62-ee98-5af2-a62f8386212c@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 09:44:20PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2022/1/19 21:22, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 08:57:58PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> > > Only parts of our products wants this feature,  we add some interfaces which
> > > only
> > > 
> > > alloc hugevmalloc for them, eg,
> > > vmap_hugepage/vmalloc_hugepage/remap_vmalloc_hugepage_range..
> > > 
> > > for our products, but it's not the choice of most products, also add
> > > nohugevmalloc
> > > 
> > > for most products is expensive, so this is the reason for adding the patch.
> > > 
> > > more config/cmdline are more flexible for test/products,
> > But why do only some products want it?  What goes wrong if all products
> > enable it?  Features should be auto-tuning, not relying on admins to
> > understand them.
> 
> Because this feature will use more memory for vmalloc/vmap, that's why we
> add some explicit
> interfaces as said above in our kernel to control the user.

Have you validated that?  What sort of performance penalty do you see?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: vmalloc: Let user to control huge vmalloc default behavior
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:48:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YegWneON2voE9htO@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93db576e-9a62-ee98-5af2-a62f8386212c@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 09:44:20PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2022/1/19 21:22, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 08:57:58PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> > > Only parts of our products wants this feature,  we add some interfaces which
> > > only
> > > 
> > > alloc hugevmalloc for them, eg,
> > > vmap_hugepage/vmalloc_hugepage/remap_vmalloc_hugepage_range..
> > > 
> > > for our products, but it's not the choice of most products, also add
> > > nohugevmalloc
> > > 
> > > for most products is expensive, so this is the reason for adding the patch.
> > > 
> > > more config/cmdline are more flexible for test/products,
> > But why do only some products want it?  What goes wrong if all products
> > enable it?  Features should be auto-tuning, not relying on admins to
> > understand them.
> 
> Because this feature will use more memory for vmalloc/vmap, that's why we
> add some explicit
> interfaces as said above in our kernel to control the user.

Have you validated that?  What sort of performance penalty do you see?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: vmalloc: Let user to control huge vmalloc default behavior
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:48:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YegWneON2voE9htO@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93db576e-9a62-ee98-5af2-a62f8386212c@huawei.com>

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 09:44:20PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2022/1/19 21:22, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 08:57:58PM +0800, Kefeng Wang wrote:
> > > Only parts of our products wants this feature,  we add some interfaces which
> > > only
> > > 
> > > alloc hugevmalloc for them, eg,
> > > vmap_hugepage/vmalloc_hugepage/remap_vmalloc_hugepage_range..
> > > 
> > > for our products, but it's not the choice of most products, also add
> > > nohugevmalloc
> > > 
> > > for most products is expensive, so this is the reason for adding the patch.
> > > 
> > > more config/cmdline are more flexible for test/products,
> > But why do only some products want it?  What goes wrong if all products
> > enable it?  Features should be auto-tuning, not relying on admins to
> > understand them.
> 
> Because this feature will use more memory for vmalloc/vmap, that's why we
> add some explicit
> interfaces as said above in our kernel to control the user.

Have you validated that?  What sort of performance penalty do you see?

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-27 14:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: support huge vmalloc mapping on arm64/x86 Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59 ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59 ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: vmalloc: Let user to control huge vmalloc default behavior Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59   ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59   ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-18  2:52   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-18  2:52     ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-18  2:52     ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-19 12:57     ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 12:57       ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 12:57       ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 13:22       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 13:22         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 13:22         ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 13:44         ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 13:44           ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 13:44           ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 13:48           ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-01-19 13:48             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 13:48             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-27 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: Support huge vmalloc mappings Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59   ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59   ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 17:35   ` (No subject) William Kucharski
2021-12-27 17:35     ` William Kucharski
2021-12-27 17:35     ` William Kucharski
2021-12-28  1:36     ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-28  1:36       ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-28  1:36       ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-15 10:05   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] arm64: Support huge vmalloc mappings Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:05     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:05     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-12-27 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] x86: " Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59   ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 14:59   ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-27 15:56   ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-27 15:56     ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-27 15:56     ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-28 10:26     ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-28 10:26       ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-28 10:26       ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-28 16:14       ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-28 16:14         ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-28 16:14         ` Dave Hansen
2021-12-29 11:01         ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-29 11:01           ` Kefeng Wang
2021-12-29 11:01           ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-15 10:17           ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:17             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:17             ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:15         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:15           ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:15           ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-18  2:46         ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-18  2:46           ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-18  2:46           ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-18 17:28           ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-18 17:28             ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-18 17:28             ` Dave Hansen
2022-01-19  4:17             ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-19  4:17               ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-19  4:17               ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-01-19 13:32               ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 13:32                 ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-19 13:32                 ` Kefeng Wang
2022-01-15 10:11       ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:11         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:11         ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:06   ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:06     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:06     ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: support huge vmalloc mapping on arm64/x86 Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:07   ` Christophe Leroy
2022-01-15 10:07   ` Christophe Leroy

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