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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Vladimir Davydov" <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:40:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfFddqkAhd1YKqX9@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220125164337.2071854-2-bigeasy@linutronix.de>

On Tue 25-01-22 17:43:34, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> During the integration of PREEMPT_RT support, the code flow around
> memcg_check_events() resulted in `twisted code'. Moving the code around
> and avoiding then would then lead to an additional local-irq-save
> section within memcg_check_events(). While looking better, it adds a
> local-irq-save section to code flow which is usually within an
> local-irq-off block on non-PREEMPT_RT configurations.
> 
> The threshold event handler is a deprecated memcg v1 feature. Instead of
> trying to get it to work under PREEMPT_RT just disable it. There should
> be no users on PREEMPT_RT. From that perspective it makes even less
> sense to get it to work under PREEMPT_RT while having zero users.
> 
> Make memory.soft_limit_in_bytes and cgroup.event_control return
> -EOPNOTSUPP on PREEMPT_RT. Make an empty memcg_check_events() and
> memcg_write_event_control() which return only -EOPNOTSUPP on PREEMPT_RT.
> Document that the two knobs are disabled on PREEMPT_RT. Shuffle the code around
> so that all unused function are in on #ifdef block.
> 
> Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
> Suggested-by: Michal Koutný <mkoutny@suse.com>
> Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>

I still support this approach but the patch is much larger than
necessary. The code moving shouldn't be really necessary and a simple
"do not allow" to set any thresholds or soft limit should be good
enough. 

While in general it is better to disable the unreachable code I do not
think this is worth the code churn here.

> ---
>  .../admin-guide/cgroup-v1/memory.rst          |   2 +
>  mm/memcontrol.c                               | 788 +++++++++---------
>  2 files changed, 404 insertions(+), 386 deletions(-)
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
	<bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	"Andrew Morton"
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner"
	<hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Vladimir Davydov"
	<vdavydov.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:40:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfFddqkAhd1YKqX9@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220125164337.2071854-2-bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>

On Tue 25-01-22 17:43:34, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> During the integration of PREEMPT_RT support, the code flow around
> memcg_check_events() resulted in `twisted code'. Moving the code around
> and avoiding then would then lead to an additional local-irq-save
> section within memcg_check_events(). While looking better, it adds a
> local-irq-save section to code flow which is usually within an
> local-irq-off block on non-PREEMPT_RT configurations.
> 
> The threshold event handler is a deprecated memcg v1 feature. Instead of
> trying to get it to work under PREEMPT_RT just disable it. There should
> be no users on PREEMPT_RT. From that perspective it makes even less
> sense to get it to work under PREEMPT_RT while having zero users.
> 
> Make memory.soft_limit_in_bytes and cgroup.event_control return
> -EOPNOTSUPP on PREEMPT_RT. Make an empty memcg_check_events() and
> memcg_write_event_control() which return only -EOPNOTSUPP on PREEMPT_RT.
> Document that the two knobs are disabled on PREEMPT_RT. Shuffle the code around
> so that all unused function are in on #ifdef block.
> 
> Suggested-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> Suggested-by: Michal Koutný <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
> Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>

I still support this approach but the patch is much larger than
necessary. The code moving shouldn't be really necessary and a simple
"do not allow" to set any thresholds or soft limit should be good
enough. 

While in general it is better to disable the unreachable code I do not
think this is worth the code churn here.

> ---
>  .../admin-guide/cgroup-v1/memory.rst          |   2 +
>  mm/memcontrol.c                               | 788 +++++++++---------
>  2 files changed, 404 insertions(+), 386 deletions(-)
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-25 16:43 [PATCH 0/4] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 14:40   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-01-26 14:40     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 14:45     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 14:45       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 15:04       ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-26 15:04         ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-27 13:36         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-27 13:36           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 15:21       ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 15:21         ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-25 16:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/memcg: Protect per-CPU counter by disabling preemption on PREEMPT_RT where needed Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 10:06   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-26 10:06     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-26 11:24     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 11:24       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 14:56   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 14:56     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-25 16:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm/memcg: Add a local_lock_t for IRQ and TASK object Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26 15:20   ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 15:20     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-27 11:53     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-27 11:53       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-01 12:04       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-01 12:04         ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-01 12:11         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-01 12:11           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-01 15:29           ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-01 15:29             ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-03  9:54             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03  9:54               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 10:09               ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-03 10:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-03 11:09                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 11:09                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-08 17:58                 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-08 17:58                   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-09  9:17                   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-09  9:17                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-26 16:57   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-26 16:57     ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-31 15:06     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-31 15:06       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-03 16:01       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-02-03 16:01         ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-02-08 17:17         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-08 17:17           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-08 17:28           ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-08 17:28             ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-09  1:48   ` [mm/memcg] 86895e1e85: WARNING:possible_circular_locking_dependency_detected kernel test robot
2022-02-09  1:48     ` kernel test robot
2022-01-25 16:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm/memcg: Allow the task_obj optimization only on non-PREEMPTIBLE kernels Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 16:43   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-25 23:21 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it Andrew Morton
2022-01-25 23:21   ` Andrew Morton
2022-01-26  7:30   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-01-26  7:30     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-07-12 11:22 [PATCH 0/4] Backport MEMCG changes from v5.17 David Oberhollenzer
2022-07-12 11:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT David Oberhollenzer

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