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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] statx: add I/O alignment information
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 23:29:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqrN2J6r4Z+BIN+o@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqrLdORPM5qm9PC0@sol.localdomain>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:19:32PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> Yes I know that.  The issue is that the inode that statx() is operating on is
> the device node, so *all* the other statx fields come from that inode.  Size,
> nlink, uid, gid, mode, timestamps (including btime if the filesystem supports
> it), inode number, device number of the containing filesystem, mount ID, etc.
> If we were to randomly grab one field from the underlying block device instead,
> that would be inconsistent with everything else.

At least on XFS we have a magic hardcoded st_blksize for block devices,
but it seems like the generic doesn't do that.

But I'm really much more worried about an inconsistency where we get
usefull information or some special files rather than where we acquire
this information from.  So I think going to the block device inode, and
also going to it for stx_blksize is the right thing as it actually
makes the interface useful.  We just need a good helper that all
getattr implementations can use to be consistent and/or override these
fields after the call to ->getattr.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] statx: add I/O alignment information
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2022 23:29:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YqrN2J6r4Z+BIN+o@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqrLdORPM5qm9PC0@sol.localdomain>

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:19:32PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> Yes I know that.  The issue is that the inode that statx() is operating on is
> the device node, so *all* the other statx fields come from that inode.  Size,
> nlink, uid, gid, mode, timestamps (including btime if the filesystem supports
> it), inode number, device number of the containing filesystem, mount ID, etc.
> If we were to randomly grab one field from the underlying block device instead,
> that would be inconsistent with everything else.

At least on XFS we have a magic hardcoded st_blksize for block devices,
but it seems like the generic doesn't do that.

But I'm really much more worried about an inconsistency where we get
usefull information or some special files rather than where we acquire
this information from.  So I think going to the block device inode, and
also going to it for stx_blksize is the right thing as it actually
makes the interface useful.  We just need a good helper that all
getattr implementations can use to be consistent and/or override these
fields after the call to ->getattr.


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-16  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-18 23:50 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] make statx() return I/O alignment information Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] statx: add " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-19  7:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-19  7:05     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-19 23:06   ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-05-19 23:06     ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong
2022-05-20  3:27     ` Dave Chinner
2022-05-20  3:27       ` [f2fs-dev] " Dave Chinner
2022-06-14  5:25       ` Eric Biggers
2022-06-14  5:25         ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-06-15 13:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-15 13:12           ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-16  0:04           ` Eric Biggers
2022-06-16  0:04             ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-06-16  6:07             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-16  6:07               ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-16  6:19               ` Eric Biggers
2022-06-16  6:19                 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-06-16  6:29                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-06-16  6:29                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-20  6:30     ` Eric Biggers
2022-05-20  6:30       ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-20 11:52   ` Christian Brauner
2022-05-20 11:52     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christian Brauner
2022-05-27  9:02   ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-27  9:02     ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-27 16:22     ` Darrick J. Wong
2022-05-27 16:22       ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] fscrypt: change fscrypt_dio_supported() to prepare for STATX_IOALIGN Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] ext4: support STATX_IOALIGN Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] f2fs: move f2fs_force_buffered_io() into file.c Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] f2fs: don't allow DIO reads but not DIO writes Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] f2fs: simplify f2fs_force_buffered_io() Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] f2fs: support STATX_IOALIGN Eric Biggers
2022-05-18 23:50   ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers

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