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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: "guanghui.fgh" <guanghuifeng@linux.alibaba.com>,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, jianyong.wu@arm.com,
	james.morse@arm.com, quic_qiancai@quicinc.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, jonathan@marek.ca,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, thunder.leizhen@huawei.com,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, geert+renesas@glider.be,
	ardb@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, yaohongbo@linux.alibaba.com,
	alikernel-developer@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] arm64: mm: fix linear mem mapping access performance degradation
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 09:46:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yt48LK6pU/VL1dJ3@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220718131005.GA12406@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 02:10:06PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 11:33:02PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
> > In short, this path work:
> > 
> > 1.Before doing work for rebuiling crashkernel mem, the pgd is swapper_pg_dir
> > in [[[ttbr1]]]
> > 
> > 2.Change the [[[ttbr0]]]to use idmap_pg_dir pgd
> > 
> > 3.The [[[idmap_cpu_replace_ttbr1_with_flush_tlb]]] are mapped [[[only]]]
> > with idmap_pg_dir mapping in [[[ttbr0]]]
> > 
> > 4.The [[[idmap_cpu_replace_ttbr1_with_flush_tlb]]] will flush tlb all,
> > switch [[[ttbr1]]] to use init_pg_dir pgd(and flush tlb all again).
> > There is no tlb conflict to swapper_pg_dir.
> > There is no tlb cache for swapper_pg_dir.
> > 
> > 5.Woring with init_pg_dir pgd to access swapper_pg_dir pagetable with fix
> > mapping. And modify crashkernel mapping in the swapper_pg_dir without any
> > tlb conflict and flush.
> > 
> > 6.When finishing the work, switch ttbr1 pgd to the origin swapper_pg_dir
> > with cpu_replace_ttbr1 function(similar to the above).
> 
> I do not think that this complexity is justified. As I have stated on
> numerous occasions already, I would prefer that we leave the crashkernel
> mapped when rodata is not "full". That fixes your performance issue and
> matches what we do for module code, so I do not see a security argument
> against it.

The protection of the crash kernel is not about security. This is about an
ability to do post mortem with kdump and such when the things go awry.

I think it's possible to have both large pages in the linear map and the
protection of crash kernel in much simpler way that this patch does, I'll
try to send an RFC Really Soon.

> I do not plan to merge this patch as-is.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Will

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: "guanghui.fgh" <guanghuifeng@linux.alibaba.com>,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, jianyong.wu@arm.com,
	james.morse@arm.com, quic_qiancai@quicinc.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, jonathan@marek.ca,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, thunder.leizhen@huawei.com,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, geert+renesas@glider.be,
	ardb@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, yaohongbo@linux.alibaba.com,
	alikernel-developer@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] arm64: mm: fix linear mem mapping access performance degradation
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 09:46:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yt48LK6pU/VL1dJ3@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220718131005.GA12406@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 02:10:06PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 11:33:02PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
> > In short, this path work:
> > 
> > 1.Before doing work for rebuiling crashkernel mem, the pgd is swapper_pg_dir
> > in [[[ttbr1]]]
> > 
> > 2.Change the [[[ttbr0]]]to use idmap_pg_dir pgd
> > 
> > 3.The [[[idmap_cpu_replace_ttbr1_with_flush_tlb]]] are mapped [[[only]]]
> > with idmap_pg_dir mapping in [[[ttbr0]]]
> > 
> > 4.The [[[idmap_cpu_replace_ttbr1_with_flush_tlb]]] will flush tlb all,
> > switch [[[ttbr1]]] to use init_pg_dir pgd(and flush tlb all again).
> > There is no tlb conflict to swapper_pg_dir.
> > There is no tlb cache for swapper_pg_dir.
> > 
> > 5.Woring with init_pg_dir pgd to access swapper_pg_dir pagetable with fix
> > mapping. And modify crashkernel mapping in the swapper_pg_dir without any
> > tlb conflict and flush.
> > 
> > 6.When finishing the work, switch ttbr1 pgd to the origin swapper_pg_dir
> > with cpu_replace_ttbr1 function(similar to the above).
> 
> I do not think that this complexity is justified. As I have stated on
> numerous occasions already, I would prefer that we leave the crashkernel
> mapped when rodata is not "full". That fixes your performance issue and
> matches what we do for module code, so I do not see a security argument
> against it.

The protection of the crash kernel is not about security. This is about an
ability to do post mortem with kdump and such when the things go awry.

I think it's possible to have both large pages in the linear map and the
protection of crash kernel in much simpler way that this patch does, I'll
try to send an RFC Really Soon.

> I do not plan to merge this patch as-is.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Will

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-25  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-02 15:57 [PATCH v4] arm64: mm: fix linear mem mapping access performance degradation Guanghui Feng
2022-07-02 15:57 ` Guanghui Feng
2022-07-04 10:35 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 10:35   ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 10:58   ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 10:58     ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 11:14     ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 11:14       ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 12:05       ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 12:05         ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 13:15         ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 13:15           ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 13:41           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 13:41             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:11           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:11             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:23             ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 14:23               ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 14:34               ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:34                 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 16:38                 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 16:38                   ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 17:09                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-04 17:09                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-05  8:35                     ` Baoquan He
2022-07-05  8:35                       ` Baoquan He
2022-07-05  8:35                       ` Baoquan He
2022-07-05  9:52                     ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05  9:52                       ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:07                       ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:07                         ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:11                         ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:11                           ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:27                           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:27                             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:56                           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 12:56                             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 13:17                             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 13:17                               ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 15:02                           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 15:02                             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 15:34                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 15:34                               ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 15:57                               ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 15:57                                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 17:05                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 17:05                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 20:45                                   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 20:45                                     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06  2:49                                     ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06  2:49                                       ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06  7:43                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06  7:43                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 10:04                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 10:04                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 13:54                                       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06 13:54                                         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06 15:18                                         ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:18                                           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:30                                           ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:30                                             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:40                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 15:40                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-07 17:02                                             ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-07 17:02                                               ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-08 12:28                                             ` [PATCH RESEND " guanghui.fgh
2022-07-08 12:28                                               ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 13:44                                               ` [PATCH v5] " Guanghui Feng
2022-07-10 13:44                                                 ` Guanghui Feng
2022-07-10 14:32                                                 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 14:32                                                   ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 15:33                                                 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 15:33                                                   ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-18 13:10                                                   ` Will Deacon
2022-07-18 13:10                                                     ` Will Deacon
2022-07-25  6:46                                                     ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2022-07-25  6:46                                                       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05  2:44                   ` [PATCH v4] " guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05  2:44                     ` guanghui.fgh

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