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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>
Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	Jagan Teki <jagan@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Robert Foss <robert.foss@linaro.org>,
	Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Andrzej Hajda <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
	andrzej.hajda@gmail.com,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/3] DSI host and peripheral initialisation ordering
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:52:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YtXIEg0rRZLLYS75@ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1646406653.git.dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>

Hi Dave,

a long overdue reply on this series.

On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 03:17:55PM +0000, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> Changes from v1:
> - New patch to refactor drm_bridge_chain_post_disable and drm_bridge_chain_pre_enable
>   to reuse drm_atomic_bridge_chain_post_disable / drm_atomic_bridge_chain_pre_enable
>   but with a NULL state.
> - New patch that adds a pre_enable_upstream_first to drm_panel.
> - changed from an OPS flag to a bool "pre_enable_upstream_first" in drm_bridge.
> - Followed Andrzej's suggestion of using continue in the main loop to avoid
>   needing 2 additional loops (one forward to find the last bridge wanting
>   upstream first, and the second backwards again).
> - Actioned Laurent's review comments on docs patch.
> 
> Original cover letter: 
> 
> Hopefully I've cc'ed all those that have bashed this problem around previously,
> or are otherwise linked to DRM bridges.
> 
> There have been numerous discussions around how DSI support is currently broken
> as it doesn't support initialising the PHY to LP-11 and potentially the clock
> lane to HS prior to configuring the DSI peripheral. There is no op where the
> interface is initialised but HS video isn't also being sent.
> Currently you have:
> - peripheral pre_enable (host not initialised yet)
> - host pre_enable
> - encoder enable
> - host enable
> - peripheral enable (video already running)
> 
> vc4 and exynos currently implement the DSI host as an encoder, and split the
> bridge_chain. This fails if you want to switch to being a bridge and/or use
> atomic calls as the state of all the elements split off are not added by
> drm_atomic_add_encoder_bridges.

A typically chain looks like this:

CRTC => Encoder => Bridge A => Bridge B

We have in DRM bridges established what is the "next" bridge - indicated
with the direction of the arrows in the drawing.

This set of patches introduces the concept of "upstream" bridges.

pre_enable_prev_bridge_first would be easier to understand as it uses
the current terminology.
I get that "upstream" is used in the DSI specification - but we are
dealing with bridges that happens to support DSI and more, and mixing
the two terminologies is not good.

Note: Upstream is also used in a bridge doc section - here it should
      most likely be updated too.

The current approach set a flag that magically makes the core do something
else. Have you considered a much more explicit approach?

A few helpers like:

	drm_bridge_pre_enable_prev_bridge()
	drm_bridge_enable_prev_bridge()
	drm_bridge_disable_prev_bridge()
	drm_bridge_post_disable_prev_bridge()

And then update the core so the relevant function is only called once
for a bridge.
Then the need for DSI lanes in LP-11 can be archived by a call to

	drm_bridge_pre_enable_prev_bridge()

This is more explicit than a flag that triggers some magic behaviour.
It may even see uses we have not realised yet.

It is late here - so maybe the above is not a good idea tomorrow - but
right now I like the simplicity of it.

Other than the above I read that a mipi_dsi_host_init() is planned,
which is also explicit and simple - good.

Have we seen a new revision of some of these?
Chances are high that I have missed it then.

	Sam

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-18 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-04 15:17 [PATCH V2 0/3] DSI host and peripheral initialisation ordering Dave Stevenson
2022-03-04 15:17 ` [PATCH V2 1/4] drm/bridge: Remove duplication from drm_bridge and drm_atomic_bridge chains Dave Stevenson
2022-06-08 11:00   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-07-18 18:16     ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-03-04 15:17 ` [PATCH V2 2/4] drm/bridge: Introduce pre_enable_upstream_first to alter bridge init order Dave Stevenson
2022-09-14  9:46   ` Jagan Teki
2022-03-04 15:17 ` [PATCH V2 3/4] drm/panel: Add prepare_upstream_first flag to drm_panel Dave Stevenson
2022-06-08 11:02   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-10-06 14:25   ` Jagan Teki
2022-10-07 12:55     ` Dave Stevenson
2022-10-17  2:44       ` Jagan Teki
2022-10-18 17:10         ` Dave Stevenson
2022-03-04 15:17 ` [PATCH V2 4/4] drm/bridge: Document the expected behaviour of DSI host controllers Dave Stevenson
2022-03-18 12:25 ` [PATCH V2 0/3] DSI host and peripheral initialisation ordering Dave Stevenson
2022-04-05 11:43   ` Dave Stevenson
2022-05-11 14:58     ` Marek Szyprowski
2022-05-11 15:47       ` Marek Vasut
2022-05-11 17:29         ` Marek Szyprowski
2022-05-13 14:01         ` Jagan Teki
2022-05-11 15:47       ` Dave Stevenson
2022-05-18 14:05         ` Marek Szyprowski
2022-05-18 22:53           ` Andrzej Hajda
2022-05-19 12:56             ` Dave Stevenson
2022-06-08 10:49               ` Dave Stevenson
2022-06-08 10:57                 ` Jagan Teki
2022-06-07 19:46           ` Jagan Teki
2022-05-13 13:57       ` Jagan Teki
2022-06-10  7:52       ` Lucas Stach
2022-07-06  7:09         ` Frieder Schrempf
2022-07-06  7:13           ` Jagan Teki
2022-07-06 10:27           ` Dave Stevenson
2022-07-06 10:43             ` Frieder Schrempf
2022-07-19 14:36         ` Dave Stevenson
2022-07-18 20:52 ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2022-07-19 13:45   ` Dave Stevenson
2022-11-13 13:06     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-11-15 14:14       ` Dave Stevenson
2022-11-15 14:21         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-11-15 14:38           ` Dave Stevenson
2022-11-17 13:24             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-11-17 14:34               ` Maxime Ripard
2022-11-17 14:35                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov

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