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From: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	maz@kernel.org, james.morse@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
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	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 08/35] mm: cma: Introduce cma_alloc_range()
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 14:18:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbpWripbKW5MaV8J@raptor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d22f63a0-f6de-44e1-874b-24d707907858@arm.com>

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 11:54:17AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/30/24 17:05, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:50:00AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1/25/24 22:12, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> >>> Today, cma_alloc() is used to allocate a contiguous memory region. The
> >>> function allows the caller to specify the number of pages to allocate, but
> >>> not the starting address. cma_alloc() will walk over the entire CMA region
> >>> trying to allocate the first available range of the specified size.
> >>>
> >>> Introduce cma_alloc_range(), which makes CMA more versatile by allowing the
> >>> caller to specify a particular range in the CMA region, defined by the
> >>> start pfn and the size.
> >>>
> >>> arm64 will make use of this function when tag storage management will be
> >>> implemented: cma_alloc_range() will be used to reserve the tag storage
> >>> associated with a tagged page.
> >> Basically, you would like to pass on a preferred start address and the
> >> allocation could just fail if a contig range is not available from such
> >> a starting address ?
> >>
> >> Then why not just change cma_alloc() to take a new argument 'start_pfn'.
> >> Why create a new but almost similar allocator ?
> > I tried doing that, and I gave up because:
> > 
> > - It made cma_alloc() even more complex and hard to follow.
> > 
> > - What value should 'start_pfn' be to tell cma_alloc() that it should be
> >   ignored? Or, to put it another way, what pfn number is invalid on **all**
> >   platforms that Linux supports?
> > 
> > I can give it another go if we can come up with an invalid value for
> > 'start_pfn'.
> 
> Something negative might work. How about -1/-1UL ? A quick search gives
> some instances such as ...
> 
> git grep "pfn == -1"
> 
> mm/mm_init.c:   if (*start_pfn == -1UL)
> mm/vmscan.c:            if (pfn == -1)
> mm/vmscan.c:            if (pfn == -1)
> mm/vmscan.c:            if (pfn == -1)
> tools/testing/selftests/mm/hugepage-vmemmap.c:  if (pfn == -1UL) {
> 
> Could not -1UL be abstracted as common macro MM_INVALID_PFN to be used in
> such scenarios including here ?

Ah yes, you are right, get_pte_pfn() already uses -1 as an invalid pfn, so
I can just use that.

Will definitely give it a go on the next iteration, thanks for the
suggestion!

> 
> > 
> >> But then I am wondering why this could not be done in the arm64 platform
> >> code itself operating on a CMA area reserved just for tag storage. Unless
> >> this new allocator has other usage beyond MTE, this could be implemented
> >> in the platform itself.
> > I had the same idea in the previous iteration, David Hildenbrand suggested
> > this approach [1].
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/2aafd53f-af1f-45f3-a08c-d11962254315@redhat.com/
> 
> There are two different cma_alloc() proposals here - including the next
> patch i.e mm: cma: Fast track allocating memory when the pages are free
> 
> 1) Augment cma_alloc() or add cma_alloc_range() with start_pfn parameter
> 2) Speed up cma_alloc() for small allocation requests when pages are free
> 
> The second one if separated out from this series could be considered on
> its own as it will help all existing cma_alloc() callers. The first one
> definitely needs an use case as provided in this series.

I understand, thanks for the input!

Alex

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From: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	maz@kernel.org, james.morse@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yuzenghui@huawei.com, arnd@arndb.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	rppt@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, pcc@google.com,
	steven.price@arm.com, vincenzo.frascino@arm.com,
	david@redhat.com, eugenis@google.com, kcc@google.com,
	hyesoo.yu@samsung.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 08/35] mm: cma: Introduce cma_alloc_range()
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 14:18:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZbpWripbKW5MaV8J@raptor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d22f63a0-f6de-44e1-874b-24d707907858@arm.com>

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 11:54:17AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/30/24 17:05, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:50:00AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1/25/24 22:12, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> >>> Today, cma_alloc() is used to allocate a contiguous memory region. The
> >>> function allows the caller to specify the number of pages to allocate, but
> >>> not the starting address. cma_alloc() will walk over the entire CMA region
> >>> trying to allocate the first available range of the specified size.
> >>>
> >>> Introduce cma_alloc_range(), which makes CMA more versatile by allowing the
> >>> caller to specify a particular range in the CMA region, defined by the
> >>> start pfn and the size.
> >>>
> >>> arm64 will make use of this function when tag storage management will be
> >>> implemented: cma_alloc_range() will be used to reserve the tag storage
> >>> associated with a tagged page.
> >> Basically, you would like to pass on a preferred start address and the
> >> allocation could just fail if a contig range is not available from such
> >> a starting address ?
> >>
> >> Then why not just change cma_alloc() to take a new argument 'start_pfn'.
> >> Why create a new but almost similar allocator ?
> > I tried doing that, and I gave up because:
> > 
> > - It made cma_alloc() even more complex and hard to follow.
> > 
> > - What value should 'start_pfn' be to tell cma_alloc() that it should be
> >   ignored? Or, to put it another way, what pfn number is invalid on **all**
> >   platforms that Linux supports?
> > 
> > I can give it another go if we can come up with an invalid value for
> > 'start_pfn'.
> 
> Something negative might work. How about -1/-1UL ? A quick search gives
> some instances such as ...
> 
> git grep "pfn == -1"
> 
> mm/mm_init.c:   if (*start_pfn == -1UL)
> mm/vmscan.c:            if (pfn == -1)
> mm/vmscan.c:            if (pfn == -1)
> mm/vmscan.c:            if (pfn == -1)
> tools/testing/selftests/mm/hugepage-vmemmap.c:  if (pfn == -1UL) {
> 
> Could not -1UL be abstracted as common macro MM_INVALID_PFN to be used in
> such scenarios including here ?

Ah yes, you are right, get_pte_pfn() already uses -1 as an invalid pfn, so
I can just use that.

Will definitely give it a go on the next iteration, thanks for the
suggestion!

> 
> > 
> >> But then I am wondering why this could not be done in the arm64 platform
> >> code itself operating on a CMA area reserved just for tag storage. Unless
> >> this new allocator has other usage beyond MTE, this could be implemented
> >> in the platform itself.
> > I had the same idea in the previous iteration, David Hildenbrand suggested
> > this approach [1].
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/2aafd53f-af1f-45f3-a08c-d11962254315@redhat.com/
> 
> There are two different cma_alloc() proposals here - including the next
> patch i.e mm: cma: Fast track allocating memory when the pages are free
> 
> 1) Augment cma_alloc() or add cma_alloc_range() with start_pfn parameter
> 2) Speed up cma_alloc() for small allocation requests when pages are free
> 
> The second one if separated out from this series could be considered on
> its own as it will help all existing cma_alloc() callers. The first one
> definitely needs an use case as provided in this series.

I understand, thanks for the input!

Alex

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2024-01-25 16:42 [PATCH RFC v3 00/35] Add support for arm64 MTE dynamic tag storage reuse Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/35] mm: page_alloc: Add gfp_flags parameter to arch_alloc_page() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  5:48   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  5:48     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:41     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:41       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  4:26       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  4:26         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:56         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:56           ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/35] mm: page_alloc: Add an arch hook early in free_pages_prepare() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  8:19   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  8:19     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:42     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:42       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/35] mm: page_alloc: Add an arch hook to filter MIGRATE_CMA allocations Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  8:44   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  8:44     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:45     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:45       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/35] mm: page_alloc: Partially revert "mm: page_alloc: remove stale CMA guard code" Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:01   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  9:01     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:46     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:46       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  4:34       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  4:34         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:57         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:57           ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  3:27           ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31  3:27             ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/35] mm: cma: Don't append newline when generating CMA area name Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:13   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  9:13     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:46     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:46       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/35] mm: cma: Make CMA_ALLOC_SUCCESS/FAIL count the number of pages Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:24   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  9:24     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:51     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:51       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  4:52       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  4:52         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:58         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:58           ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  4:40           ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31  4:40             ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 13:27             ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31 13:27               ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/35] mm: cma: Add CMA_RELEASE_{SUCCESS,FAIL} events Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29  9:31   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29  9:31     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-29 11:53     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:53       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  5:59       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31  5:59         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/35] mm: cma: Introduce cma_alloc_range() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  5:20   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  5:20     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:35     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:35       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  6:24       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31  6:24         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 14:18         ` Alexandru Elisei [this message]
2024-01-31 14:18           ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/35] mm: cma: Introduce cma_remove_mem() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  5:50   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  5:50     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:33     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:33       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31 13:19       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 13:19         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 13:48         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31 13:48           ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/35] mm: cma: Fast track allocating memory when the pages are free Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  9:18   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  9:18     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:34     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:34       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 11/35] mm: Allow an arch to hook into folio allocation when VMA is known Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-26 20:00   ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-26 20:00     ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-29 11:59     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-29 11:59       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  9:55   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30  9:55     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-30 11:34     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:34       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31  6:53       ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31  6:53         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-01-31 12:22         ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-31 12:22           ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 12/35] mm: Call arch_swap_prepare_to_restore() before arch_swap_restore() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  3:30   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01  3:30     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:32     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01 17:32       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 13/35] mm: memory: Introduce fault-on-access mechanism for pages Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  5:52   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01  5:52     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:36     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01 17:36       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 14/35] of: fdt: Return the region size in of_flat_dt_translate_address() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 15/35] of: fdt: Add of_flat_read_u32() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 16/35] KVM: arm64: Don't deny VM_PFNMAP VMAs when kvm_has_mte() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 17/35] arm64: mte: Rework naming for tag manipulation functions Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 18/35] arm64: mte: Rename __GFP_ZEROTAGS to __GFP_TAGGED Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 19/35] arm64: mte: Discover tag storage memory Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-26  8:50   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-26  8:50     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-01-26 17:01     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-26 17:01       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 20/35] arm64: mte: Add tag storage memory to CMA Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 21/35] arm64: mte: Disable dynamic tag storage management if HW KASAN is enabled Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 22/35] arm64: mte: Enable tag storage if CMA areas have been activated Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-02 22:30   ` Evgenii Stepanov
2024-02-02 22:30     ` Evgenii Stepanov
2024-02-05 16:30     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-05 16:30       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 23/35] arm64: mte: Try to reserve tag storage in arch_alloc_page() Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30  0:04   ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-30  0:04     ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-30 11:38     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-30 11:38       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 24/35] arm64: mte: Perform CMOs for tag blocks Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 25/35] arm64: mte: Reserve tag block for the zero page Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 26/35] arm64: mte: Use fault-on-access to reserve missing tag storage Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 27/35] arm64: mte: Handle tag storage pages mapped in an MTE VMA Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 28/35] arm64: mte: swap: Handle tag restoring when missing tag storage Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-02  4:02   ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-02-02  4:02     ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-02-02 14:56     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-02 14:56       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-03  1:32       ` Evgenii Stepanov
2024-02-03  1:32         ` Evgenii Stepanov
2024-02-03  1:52       ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-02-03  1:52         ` Peter Collingbourne
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 29/35] arm64: mte: copypage: " Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 30/35] arm64: mte: ptrace: Handle pages with " Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  9:21   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01  9:21     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:38     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01 17:38       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 31/35] khugepaged: arm64: Don't collapse MTE enabled VMAs Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01  8:12   ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01  8:12     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-02-01 17:38     ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-01 17:38       ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 32/35] KVM: arm64: mte: Reserve tag storage for virtual machines with MTE Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 33/35] KVM: arm64: mte: Introduce VM_MTE_KVM VMA flag Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 34/35] arm64: mte: Enable dynamic tag storage management Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC v3 35/35] HACK! arm64: dts: Add fake tag storage to fvp-base-revc.dts Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 16:42   ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-01-25 17:01 ` [PATCH RFC v3 00/35] Add support for arm64 MTE dynamic tag storage reuse Steven Rostedt
2024-01-25 17:01   ` Steven Rostedt

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