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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Add PSCI SYSTEM_OFF2 function for hibernation
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 08:47:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZfB5BMfLHWhQXLZY@thinky-boi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240312135958.727765-2-dwmw2@infradead.org>

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 01:51:28PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> 
> The PSCI v1.3 specification (alpha) adds support for a SYSTEM_OFF2 function
> which is analogous to ACPI S4 state. This will allow hosting environments
> to determine that a guest is hibernated rather than just powered off, and
> ensure that they preserve the virtual environment appropriately to allow
> the guest to resume safely (or bump the hardware_signature in the FACS to
> trigger a clean reboot instead).
> 
> The beta version will be changed to say that PSCI_FEATURES returns a bit
> mask of the supported hibernate types, which is implemented here.

Have you considered doing the PSCI implementation in userspace? The
SMCCC filter [*] was added for this exact purpose. There are other
features being done in userspace (e.g. vCPU hotplug) built on
intercepting hypercalls, this seems to be a reasonable candidate too.

[*] https://docs.kernel.org/virt/kvm/devices/vm.html#attribute-kvm-arm-vm-smccc-filter-w-o

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Add PSCI SYSTEM_OFF2 function for hibernation
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 08:47:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZfB5BMfLHWhQXLZY@thinky-boi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240312135958.727765-2-dwmw2@infradead.org>

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 01:51:28PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> 
> The PSCI v1.3 specification (alpha) adds support for a SYSTEM_OFF2 function
> which is analogous to ACPI S4 state. This will allow hosting environments
> to determine that a guest is hibernated rather than just powered off, and
> ensure that they preserve the virtual environment appropriately to allow
> the guest to resume safely (or bump the hardware_signature in the FACS to
> trigger a clean reboot instead).
> 
> The beta version will be changed to say that PSCI_FEATURES returns a bit
> mask of the supported hibernate types, which is implemented here.

Have you considered doing the PSCI implementation in userspace? The
SMCCC filter [*] was added for this exact purpose. There are other
features being done in userspace (e.g. vCPU hotplug) built on
intercepting hypercalls, this seems to be a reasonable candidate too.

[*] https://docs.kernel.org/virt/kvm/devices/vm.html#attribute-kvm-arm-vm-smccc-filter-w-o

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-12 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-12 13:51 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add PSCI v1.3 SYSTEM_OFF2 support for hibernation David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 13:51 ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Add PSCI SYSTEM_OFF2 function " David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 13:51   ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 15:36   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-03-12 15:36     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-03-12 17:06     ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 17:06       ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 15:47   ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2024-03-12 15:47     ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-13 12:53     ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 12:53       ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 19:42       ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-13 19:42         ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-13 23:01         ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 23:01           ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 13:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] arm64: Use SYSTEM_OFF2 PSCI call to power off for hibernate David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 13:51   ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 15:57   ` Sudeep Holla
2024-03-12 15:57     ` Sudeep Holla
2024-03-12 16:36     ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 16:36       ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-13 15:34       ` Sudeep Holla
2024-03-13 15:34         ` Sudeep Holla
2024-03-14 11:09         ` Sudeep Holla
2024-03-14 11:09           ` Sudeep Holla
2024-03-14 11:27           ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-14 11:27             ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add PSCI v1.3 SYSTEM_OFF2 support for hibernation Marc Zyngier
2024-03-12 15:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-03-12 17:01   ` David Woodhouse
2024-03-12 17:01     ` David Woodhouse

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