From: Joel Holdsworth <joel@airwebreathe.org.uk> To: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>, atull@opensource.altera.com, moritz.fischer@ettus.com, geert@linux-m68k.org, robh@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, clifford@clifford.at Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/3] fpga: Add support for Lattice iCE40 FPGAs Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 10:13:58 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <a86d41da-c7df-4c07-d18e-b751cff9edc7@airwebreathe.org.uk> (raw) In-Reply-To: <4bdba358-db18-48f1-3286-a7a7f4c30215@denx.de> Hi Marek, >>> Should be this way for the sake of readability, fix globally: >>> >>> struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = { >>> .cs_change = 1, >>> .delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY >>> }; >> >> Sure ok. Personally, I prefer it to be concise, but I'm happy to accept >> the norms. > > I prefer it to be readable :) > I'll conform to what you're saying. But I just want to point out that this... spi_message_add_tail(&(struct spi_transfer){.cs_change = 1, .delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY}, &message); ...is clearly more readable than this... struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = { .cs_change = 1, .delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY }; .... <30 lines of unrelated code> .... spi_message_add_tail(&assert_cs_then_reset_delay, &message); ...in my opinion anyway ;) >> Previously I had a copy of spi_set_cs copy-pasted into my driver, but in >> the end I decided to replace that with the zero-length transfers because >> there's a danger that if the original spi_set_cs() gets rewritten some >> time, my copy-paste code would leave around some nasty legacy. >> >> On the whole, I don't think the zero-length transfers are too >> egregiously bad, and all the alternatives seem worse to me. > > So why not turn the CS line into GPIO and just toggle the GPIO? > Two reasons. 1. On some devices the CS line is built into the SPI master, rather than being a normal GPIO. 2. The SPI driver stack addresses SPI devices in terms of which CS line they are attached to. You can't have an spi_device in the kernel where the SPI driver machinery doesn't have a CS line to control. Moreover it needs to be possible for another SPI device to interrupt a running transfer to the FPGA. Supporting this involves the SPI framework managing the CS line. Thanks Joel
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From: Joel Holdsworth <joel-IJEoVVyKhCJXvIrf17iDB/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org> To: Marek Vasut <marex-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>, atull-yzvPICuk2ABMcg4IHK0kFoH6Mc4MB0Vx@public.gmane.org, moritz.fischer-+aYTwkv1SeIAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org, geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org, robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, clifford-cPpHkPqGOEfk7+2FdBfRIA@public.gmane.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/3] fpga: Add support for Lattice iCE40 FPGAs Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 10:13:58 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <a86d41da-c7df-4c07-d18e-b751cff9edc7@airwebreathe.org.uk> (raw) In-Reply-To: <4bdba358-db18-48f1-3286-a7a7f4c30215-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org> Hi Marek, >>> Should be this way for the sake of readability, fix globally: >>> >>> struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = { >>> .cs_change = 1, >>> .delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY >>> }; >> >> Sure ok. Personally, I prefer it to be concise, but I'm happy to accept >> the norms. > > I prefer it to be readable :) > I'll conform to what you're saying. But I just want to point out that this... spi_message_add_tail(&(struct spi_transfer){.cs_change = 1, .delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY}, &message); ...is clearly more readable than this... struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = { .cs_change = 1, .delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY }; .... <30 lines of unrelated code> .... spi_message_add_tail(&assert_cs_then_reset_delay, &message); ...in my opinion anyway ;) >> Previously I had a copy of spi_set_cs copy-pasted into my driver, but in >> the end I decided to replace that with the zero-length transfers because >> there's a danger that if the original spi_set_cs() gets rewritten some >> time, my copy-paste code would leave around some nasty legacy. >> >> On the whole, I don't think the zero-length transfers are too >> egregiously bad, and all the alternatives seem worse to me. > > So why not turn the CS line into GPIO and just toggle the GPIO? > Two reasons. 1. On some devices the CS line is built into the SPI master, rather than being a normal GPIO. 2. The SPI driver stack addresses SPI devices in terms of which CS line they are attached to. You can't have an spi_device in the kernel where the SPI driver machinery doesn't have a CS line to control. Moreover it needs to be possible for another SPI device to interrupt a running transfer to the FPGA. Supporting this involves the SPI framework managing the CS line. Thanks Joel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-08 17:14 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2016-11-07 2:49 [PATCH v8 1/3] of: Add vendor prefix for Lattice Semiconductor Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 2:49 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 2:49 ` [PATCH v8 2/3] Documentation: Add binding document for Lattice iCE40 FPGA manager Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 17:53 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-07 17:53 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-07 18:57 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-14 16:11 ` Rob Herring 2016-11-18 18:56 ` atull 2016-11-18 18:56 ` atull 2016-11-18 19:17 ` Moritz Fischer 2016-11-18 19:17 ` Moritz Fischer 2016-11-18 19:28 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-18 19:28 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-07 2:49 ` [PATCH v8 3/3] fpga: Add support for Lattice iCE40 FPGAs Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 2:49 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 18:01 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-07 18:01 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-07 18:49 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 18:49 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 18:53 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-08 17:06 ` Moritz Fischer 2016-11-08 17:30 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-08 17:30 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-09 12:01 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-09 18:37 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-09 18:39 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-09 18:54 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-09 18:54 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-10 12:11 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-10 12:11 ` Marek Vasut 2016-11-08 17:13 ` Joel Holdsworth [this message] 2016-11-08 17:13 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 18:26 ` Moritz Fischer 2016-11-07 18:26 ` Moritz Fischer 2016-11-07 19:02 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 19:02 ` Joel Holdsworth 2016-11-07 21:41 ` Moritz Fischer 2016-11-07 21:41 ` Moritz Fischer
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