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From: Joel Holdsworth <joel@airwebreathe.org.uk>
To: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	atull@opensource.altera.com, moritz.fischer@ettus.com,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, robh@kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, clifford@clifford.at
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/3] fpga: Add support for Lattice iCE40 FPGAs
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 10:13:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a86d41da-c7df-4c07-d18e-b751cff9edc7@airwebreathe.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4bdba358-db18-48f1-3286-a7a7f4c30215@denx.de>

Hi Marek,

>>> Should be this way for the sake of readability, fix globally:
>>>
>>>     struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = {
>>>         .cs_change    = 1,
>>>         .delay_usecs    = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY
>>>     };
>>
>> Sure ok. Personally, I prefer it to be concise, but I'm happy to accept
>> the norms.
>
> I prefer it to be readable :)
>

I'll conform to what you're saying.

But I just want to point out that this...


spi_message_add_tail(&(struct spi_transfer){.cs_change = 1,
	.delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY}, &message);


...is clearly more readable than this...


struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = {
     .cs_change    = 1,
     .delay_usecs  = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY
};

....
<30 lines of unrelated code>
....

spi_message_add_tail(&assert_cs_then_reset_delay, &message);



...in my opinion anyway ;)



>> Previously I had a copy of spi_set_cs copy-pasted into my driver, but in
>> the end I decided to replace that with the zero-length transfers because
>> there's a danger that if the original spi_set_cs() gets rewritten some
>> time, my copy-paste code would leave around some nasty legacy.
>>
>> On the whole, I don't think the zero-length transfers are too
>> egregiously bad, and all the alternatives seem worse to me.
>
> So why not turn the CS line into GPIO and just toggle the GPIO?
>

Two reasons.

1. On some devices the CS line is built into the SPI master, rather than 
being a normal GPIO.

2. The SPI driver stack addresses SPI devices in terms of which CS line 
they are attached to. You can't have an spi_device in the kernel where 
the SPI driver machinery doesn't have a CS line to control. Moreover it 
needs to be possible for another SPI device to interrupt a running 
transfer to the FPGA. Supporting this involves the SPI framework 
managing the CS line.



Thanks
Joel

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Joel Holdsworth <joel-IJEoVVyKhCJXvIrf17iDB/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
To: Marek Vasut <marex-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>,
	atull-yzvPICuk2ABMcg4IHK0kFoH6Mc4MB0Vx@public.gmane.org,
	moritz.fischer-+aYTwkv1SeIAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org,
	robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	clifford-cPpHkPqGOEfk7+2FdBfRIA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/3] fpga: Add support for Lattice iCE40 FPGAs
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 10:13:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a86d41da-c7df-4c07-d18e-b751cff9edc7@airwebreathe.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4bdba358-db18-48f1-3286-a7a7f4c30215-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>

Hi Marek,

>>> Should be this way for the sake of readability, fix globally:
>>>
>>>     struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = {
>>>         .cs_change    = 1,
>>>         .delay_usecs    = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY
>>>     };
>>
>> Sure ok. Personally, I prefer it to be concise, but I'm happy to accept
>> the norms.
>
> I prefer it to be readable :)
>

I'll conform to what you're saying.

But I just want to point out that this...


spi_message_add_tail(&(struct spi_transfer){.cs_change = 1,
	.delay_usecs = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY}, &message);


...is clearly more readable than this...


struct spi_transfer assert_cs_then_reset_delay = {
     .cs_change    = 1,
     .delay_usecs  = ICE40_SPI_FPGAMGR_RESET_DELAY
};

....
<30 lines of unrelated code>
....

spi_message_add_tail(&assert_cs_then_reset_delay, &message);



...in my opinion anyway ;)



>> Previously I had a copy of spi_set_cs copy-pasted into my driver, but in
>> the end I decided to replace that with the zero-length transfers because
>> there's a danger that if the original spi_set_cs() gets rewritten some
>> time, my copy-paste code would leave around some nasty legacy.
>>
>> On the whole, I don't think the zero-length transfers are too
>> egregiously bad, and all the alternatives seem worse to me.
>
> So why not turn the CS line into GPIO and just toggle the GPIO?
>

Two reasons.

1. On some devices the CS line is built into the SPI master, rather than 
being a normal GPIO.

2. The SPI driver stack addresses SPI devices in terms of which CS line 
they are attached to. You can't have an spi_device in the kernel where 
the SPI driver machinery doesn't have a CS line to control. Moreover it 
needs to be possible for another SPI device to interrupt a running 
transfer to the FPGA. Supporting this involves the SPI framework 
managing the CS line.



Thanks
Joel


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-08 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-07  2:49 [PATCH v8 1/3] of: Add vendor prefix for Lattice Semiconductor Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07  2:49 ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07  2:49 ` [PATCH v8 2/3] Documentation: Add binding document for Lattice iCE40 FPGA manager Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 17:53   ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-07 17:53     ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-07 18:57     ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-14 16:11   ` Rob Herring
2016-11-18 18:56     ` atull
2016-11-18 18:56       ` atull
2016-11-18 19:17       ` Moritz Fischer
2016-11-18 19:17         ` Moritz Fischer
2016-11-18 19:28         ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-18 19:28           ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-07  2:49 ` [PATCH v8 3/3] fpga: Add support for Lattice iCE40 FPGAs Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07  2:49   ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 18:01   ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-07 18:01     ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-07 18:49     ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 18:49       ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 18:53       ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-08 17:06         ` Moritz Fischer
2016-11-08 17:30           ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-08 17:30             ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-09 12:01             ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-09 18:37               ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-09 18:39                 ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-09 18:54                   ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-09 18:54                     ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-10 12:11                     ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-10 12:11                       ` Marek Vasut
2016-11-08 17:13         ` Joel Holdsworth [this message]
2016-11-08 17:13           ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 18:26   ` Moritz Fischer
2016-11-07 18:26     ` Moritz Fischer
2016-11-07 19:02     ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 19:02       ` Joel Holdsworth
2016-11-07 21:41       ` Moritz Fischer
2016-11-07 21:41         ` Moritz Fischer

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