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From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Jörg Otte'" <jrg.otte@gmail.com>,
	"'Pandruvada, Srinivas'" <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>
Cc: <rafael@kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>, <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: RE: [intel-pstate driver regression] processor frequency very high even if in idle
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:50:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002401d18ab5$0bf84a30$23e8de90$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADDKRnA5x9dK=6KZWijiP_ihrUA9Afpmqw8TSzYn9oaBeaOfKw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2016.03.30 08:52 Jörg Otte wrote:
> 2016-03-30 17:33 GMT+02:00 Pandruvada, Srinivas <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>:
>> On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 13:05 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Jörg Otte <jrg.otte@gmail.com>

>>>>>> Now in v4.6-rc1 the characteristic has dramatically changed.
>>>>>> If in idle the processor frequency is more or less a few
>>>>>> MHz around 2500Mhz.
>>>>>> I currently use acpi_cpufreq which works as usual.
>>>>>> Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200M CPU @ 2.50GHz
>>>>>> (family: 0x6, model: 0x3c, stepping: 0x3)

>> I want to reproduce this if I can. Can you give us info about your
>> setup (Linux distribution, laptop model etc.)?

I would like to try to reproduce the issue also.

> Distro: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS

Note that with Ubuntu 14.04, I had issues where my CPU
would lock at pstate 24 (not always 24, but usually),
regardless of load.
However, it was always after an S3 suspend, occurred 100%
of the time, and was independent of intel_pstate or
acpi-cpufreq CPU frequency scaling drivers.

Since changing my test server to Ubuntu server edition 16.04
(development version), I have not had those issues. While I have
no proof, I have assumed the issue elimination was somehow related
to the change to systemd.

It might be worth observing both what the intel_pstate is asking for
and what the processor is actually doing.

What is being asked for:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x199

What is being given:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x198

An old problematic example from an idle system (mine)
Note, my minimum pstate is 16:

What was being given:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x198
24
24
24
24
24
24
24
24

What was being asked for:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x199
16
16
16
16
16
16
16
16

To gain further insight, it might also be worth acquiring
some trace data. On an otherwise idle system, do:

# perf record -a --event=power:pstate_sample sleep 300

If pressed for time, your sleep time can be less than 5 minutes,
but try to get at least 100 seconds.

The resulting perf.data file will be too big to include as an
on-list attachment, but send it (or them) to me off-list for
post processing, and I'll report back.

... Doug

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Doug Smythies" <dsmythies@telus.net>
To: "'Jörg Otte'" <jrg.otte@gmail.com>,
	"'Pandruvada, Srinivas'" <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>
Cc: rafael@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net
Subject: RE: [intel-pstate driver regression] processor frequency very high even if in idle
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:50:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002401d18ab5$0bf84a30$23e8de90$@net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADDKRnA5x9dK=6KZWijiP_ihrUA9Afpmqw8TSzYn9oaBeaOfKw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2016.03.30 08:52 Jörg Otte wrote:
> 2016-03-30 17:33 GMT+02:00 Pandruvada, Srinivas <srinivas.pandruvada@intel.com>:
>> On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 13:05 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Jörg Otte <jrg.otte@gmail.com>

>>>>>> Now in v4.6-rc1 the characteristic has dramatically changed.
>>>>>> If in idle the processor frequency is more or less a few
>>>>>> MHz around 2500Mhz.
>>>>>> I currently use acpi_cpufreq which works as usual.
>>>>>> Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4200M CPU @ 2.50GHz
>>>>>> (family: 0x6, model: 0x3c, stepping: 0x3)

>> I want to reproduce this if I can. Can you give us info about your
>> setup (Linux distribution, laptop model etc.)?

I would like to try to reproduce the issue also.

> Distro: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS

Note that with Ubuntu 14.04, I had issues where my CPU
would lock at pstate 24 (not always 24, but usually),
regardless of load.
However, it was always after an S3 suspend, occurred 100%
of the time, and was independent of intel_pstate or
acpi-cpufreq CPU frequency scaling drivers.

Since changing my test server to Ubuntu server edition 16.04
(development version), I have not had those issues. While I have
no proof, I have assumed the issue elimination was somehow related
to the change to systemd.

It might be worth observing both what the intel_pstate is asking for
and what the processor is actually doing.

What is being asked for:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x199

What is being given:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x198

An old problematic example from an idle system (mine)
Note, my minimum pstate is 16:

What was being given:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x198
24
24
24
24
24
24
24
24

What was being asked for:
# rdmsr --bitfield 15:8 -d -a 0x199
16
16
16
16
16
16
16
16

To gain further insight, it might also be worth acquiring
some trace data. On an otherwise idle system, do:

# perf record -a --event=power:pstate_sample sleep 300

If pressed for time, your sleep time can be less than 5 minutes,
but try to get at least 100 seconds.

The resulting perf.data file will be too big to include as an
on-list attachment, but send it (or them) to me off-list for
post processing, and I'll report back.

... Doug



  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-30 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-29 17:24 [intel-pstate driver regression] processor frequency very high even if in idle Jörg Otte
2016-03-29 17:32 ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-29 21:34   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 10:17     ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-30 11:05       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 15:29         ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-30 18:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-31  9:05             ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-31 11:42               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-31 15:25                 ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-31 15:43                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-31 16:10                     ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-31 17:27                     ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-31 17:55                       ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-04-01  0:08                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-01  9:42                         ` Jörg Otte
2016-04-01 15:05                           ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-04-01 20:24                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-01  9:20                     ` Jörg Otte
2016-04-01 12:40                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-01 14:06                         ` Jörg Otte
2016-04-01 17:44                           ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-04-01 18:31                             ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-01 18:41                               ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-04-01 19:54                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-01 23:36                                 ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-02  0:28                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-01 20:28                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-02 22:50                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-01 15:20                         ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-01 16:46                           ` Jörg Otte
2016-04-01 17:34                             ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-30 15:33         ` Pandruvada, Srinivas
2016-03-30 15:51           ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-30 18:50             ` Doug Smythies [this message]
2016-03-30 18:50               ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-30 18:58               ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-30 20:12                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 20:26                   ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-31  9:23                     ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-31 14:39                       ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-31 14:39                         ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-31 15:06                         ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-31 15:32                           ` Jörg Otte
2016-03-31 15:10                         ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-31 15:10                           ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-01  7:20                       ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-01  7:20                         ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-30 21:41 Sedat Dilek
2016-03-30 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 22:23   ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-30 22:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 22:18 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-30 22:25   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 22:46     ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-30 23:17       ` Pandruvada, Srinivas
2016-03-30 23:25         ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-30 23:28           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-30 23:32             ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-30 23:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-31  6:38                 ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-31  7:45                   ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]                 ` <CAA=4085Mmv7gRpJid8UGQ4ti6c1HhaENnogd8aPrg6E-w68QWg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-31  7:28                   ` Navin P.S
2016-03-30 22:50   ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-30 23:12     ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-31  8:10     ` Sedat Dilek
2016-03-31 14:30       ` Doug Smythies
2016-03-31 14:30         ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-02  6:12         ` Sedat Dilek
     [not found]           ` <CA+icZUVHyq7dOh457rYv+2nmNxPevY0ZcqxhQVhYG4Z1D-NaDA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-04-02 15:28             ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-04-02 17:19               ` Jörg Otte
2016-04-02 18:20                 ` Sedat Dilek
2016-04-03 18:59                   ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-03 18:59                     ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-04  5:13                     ` Sedat Dilek
2016-04-04  6:14                       ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-04  6:14                         ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-04 14:12                         ` Sedat Dilek

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