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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Wei Fang <wei.fang@nxp.com>, "andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"hkallweit1@gmail.com" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
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	"krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org" 
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	"f.fainelli@gmail.com" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net 1/2] dt: ar803x: Document disable-hibernation property
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:36:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01021dde-106c-5660-ea96-a8b8fd89ad50@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvZH9avGaZ3z5B5H@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On 12/08/2022 15:30, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 03:04:41PM +0300, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> I did not propose a property to enable hibernation. The property must
>> describe hardware, so this piece is missing, regardless whether the
>> logic in the driver is "enable" or "disable".
>>
>> The hardware property for example is: "broken foo, so hibernation should
>> be disabled" or "engineer forgot to wire cables, so hibernation won't
>> work"...
> 
> From the problem description, the PHY itself isn't broken. The stmmac
> hardware doesn't reset properly when the clock from the PHY is stopped.

There is nothing like that in the property name or property description.
Again - DT is not for describing driver behavior or driver policy.

> That could hardly be described as "broken" - it's quite common for
> hardware specifications to state that clocks must be running for the
> hardware to operate correctly.
> 
> This is a matter of configuring the hardware to inter-operate correctly.
> Isn't that the whole purpose of DT?
> 
> So, nothing is broken. Nothing has forgotten to be wired. It's a matter
> of properly configuring the hardware. Just the same as selecting the
> correct interface mode to connect two devices together.

I just gave you two examples what could be written, don't need to stick
them. You can use some real one...

Best regards,
Krzysztof

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-12 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-12 14:50 [PATCH net 0/2] Add DT property to disable hibernation mode wei.fang
2022-08-12 14:50 ` [PATCH net 1/2] dt: ar803x: Document disable-hibernation property wei.fang
2022-08-12  7:27   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12  9:02     ` Wei Fang
2022-08-12 11:25       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12 11:36         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-12 12:04           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-12 12:30             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-12 12:36               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2022-08-12 14:34                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-15  8:51         ` Wei Fang
2022-08-15  9:19           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-08-12 14:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-15  6:49     ` Wei Fang
2022-08-18  1:20       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-18  1:29         ` Wei Fang
2022-08-18  1:44           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-18  1:50             ` Wei Fang
2022-08-18  2:01             ` Wei Fang
2022-08-12 15:13   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-12 15:36   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-08-12 14:50 ` [PATCH net 2/2] net: phy: at803x: Add disable hibernation mode support wei.fang

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