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From: "Keller, Jacob E" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org"
	<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: add support for extended PHC gettime
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:02:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02874ECE860811409154E81DA85FBB5884CFF78A@ORSMSX115.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181029133109.GD31668@localhost>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org] On
> Behalf Of Miroslav Lichvar
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: Keller, Jacob E <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
> Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org; intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org; Richard Cochran
> <richardcochran@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: add support for extended PHC gettime
> 
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 04:54:57PM +0000, Keller, Jacob E wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Miroslav Lichvar [mailto:mlichvar@redhat.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:28 AM
> > > To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > > Cc: intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org; Richard Cochran
> <richardcochran@gmail.com>;
> > > Keller, Jacob E <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>; Miroslav Lichvar
> <mlichvar@redhat.com>
> > > Subject: [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: add support for extended PHC gettime
> > >
> > > Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
> 
> > What about replacing gettime64 with:
> >
> > static int ixgbe_ptp_gettimex(struct ptp_clock_info *ptp, struct timespec64 *ts)
> > {
> >     struct ptp_system_timestamp sts
> >
> >     ixgbe_ptp_gettimex(ptp, &tst);
> >     *ts = sts.phc_ts
> > }
> 
> That will work, but it will be slower. With HPET as a clocksource
> there would be few microseconds of an extra (symmetric) delay and the
> applications would have to assume a larger maximum error.
> 

Right. My intention for this would be that we'd switch from gettime64 to gettime64x going forward, and provide this as a way to avoid having to duplicate logic in drivers while we're transitioning? Thus, new applications should be using the new call if it's available in the driver.

Hmm.
 
> I think there could be a flag in ptp_system_timestamp, or a parameter
> of gettimex64(), which would enable/disable reading of the system
> clock.
> 
> > Actually, could that even just be provided by the PTP core if gettime64 isn't
> implemented? This way new drivers only have to implement the new interface, and
> userspace will just get the old behavior if they use the old call?
> 
> Good idea.

Ideally we can find a way that minimizes the overhead for the old call.

Thanks,
Jake

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Miroslav Lichvar

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Keller, Jacob E <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: add support for extended PHC gettime
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:02:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02874ECE860811409154E81DA85FBB5884CFF78A@ORSMSX115.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181029133109.GD31668@localhost>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netdev-owner at vger.kernel.org [mailto:netdev-owner at vger.kernel.org] On
> Behalf Of Miroslav Lichvar
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: Keller, Jacob E <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
> Cc: netdev at vger.kernel.org; intel-wired-lan at lists.osuosl.org; Richard Cochran
> <richardcochran@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: add support for extended PHC gettime
> 
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 04:54:57PM +0000, Keller, Jacob E wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Miroslav Lichvar [mailto:mlichvar at redhat.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:28 AM
> > > To: netdev at vger.kernel.org
> > > Cc: intel-wired-lan at lists.osuosl.org; Richard Cochran
> <richardcochran@gmail.com>;
> > > Keller, Jacob E <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>; Miroslav Lichvar
> <mlichvar@redhat.com>
> > > Subject: [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: add support for extended PHC gettime
> > >
> > > Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
> 
> > What about replacing gettime64 with:
> >
> > static int ixgbe_ptp_gettimex(struct ptp_clock_info *ptp, struct timespec64 *ts)
> > {
> >     struct ptp_system_timestamp sts
> >
> >     ixgbe_ptp_gettimex(ptp, &tst);
> >     *ts = sts.phc_ts
> > }
> 
> That will work, but it will be slower. With HPET as a clocksource
> there would be few microseconds of an extra (symmetric) delay and the
> applications would have to assume a larger maximum error.
> 

Right. My intention for this would be that we'd switch from gettime64 to gettime64x going forward, and provide this as a way to avoid having to duplicate logic in drivers while we're transitioning? Thus, new applications should be using the new call if it's available in the driver.

Hmm.
 
> I think there could be a flag in ptp_system_timestamp, or a parameter
> of gettimex64(), which would enable/disable reading of the system
> clock.
> 
> > Actually, could that even just be provided by the PTP core if gettime64 isn't
> implemented? This way new drivers only have to implement the new interface, and
> userspace will just get the old behavior if they use the old call?
> 
> Good idea.

Ideally we can find a way that minimizes the overhead for the old call.

Thanks,
Jake

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Miroslav Lichvar

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-30  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-26 16:27 [RFC PATCH 0/4] More accurate PHC<->system clock synchronization Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] ptp: add PTP_SYS_OFFSET_EXTENDED ioctl Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 22:16   ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2018-10-26 22:16     ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2018-10-29 12:52     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-29 12:52       ` Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-31  2:23   ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-31  2:23     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Richard Cochran
2018-10-31  3:01     ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-31  3:01       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Richard Cochran
2018-10-26 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] e1000e: add support for extended PHC gettime Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] igb: " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-31  2:29   ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-31  2:29     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Richard Cochran
2018-10-31  9:39     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-31  9:39       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-31 16:56       ` Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-31 16:56         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-26 16:27 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ixgbe: " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:27   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-26 16:54   ` Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-26 16:54     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-29 13:31     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-29 13:31       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-29 16:02       ` Keller, Jacob E [this message]
2018-10-29 16:02         ` Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-31 14:40       ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-31 14:40         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Richard Cochran
2018-10-31 14:49         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-31 14:49           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Miroslav Lichvar
2018-10-31 21:16           ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-31 21:16             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Richard Cochran
2018-10-31 22:08             ` Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-31 22:08               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-31 16:55         ` Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-31 16:55           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-26 16:40 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] More accurate PHC<->system clock synchronization Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-26 16:40   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-26 16:51 ` Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-26 16:51   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2018-10-31  2:25 ` Richard Cochran
2018-10-31  2:25   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Richard Cochran

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