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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net>, baneric926@gmail.com
Cc: jdelvare@suse.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	corbet@lwn.net, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, kcfeng0@nuvoton.com,
	kwliu@nuvoton.com, openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	DELPHINE_CHIU@wiwynn.com, naresh.solanki@9elements.com,
	billy_tsai@aspeedtech.com, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: hwmon: fan: Add fan binding to schema
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:49:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03b6a094-b76d-4b4f-90d8-8b00219ec236@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e590e3ba-f446-4f20-9618-d4ff388586ad@roeck-us.net>

On 3/4/24 16:41, Guenter Roeck wrote:

>>> +
>>> +  min-rpm:
>>> +    description:
>>> +      Min RPM supported by fan.
>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>>> +    maximum: 1000
>>
>> I can't say with certainty that it's not, but are we sure 1000 is low enough?  Looking at just what I've got on hand, an 80mm fan I have will run steadily at about 1500RPM, and I'd assume larger ones (e.g. 120mm) could potentially go significantly lower...
>>
> 
> I have seen fans which run stable at < 400rpm.
> One of my systems right now has:
> 
> fan1:              732 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan2:                0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan3:              586 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan4:              472 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan5:              480 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> 
> Those are 80mm fans. A quick check shows that various Noctua fans have a
> minimum speed of 300 rpm. So 1000 is indeed a bit high for the minimum speed.
> 

No, wait, that is the _maximum_ minimum speed. Got me there.

So, there is Noctua's NF-A4x20 PWM with a minimum rotational speed of 1,200 RPM.

If I interpret
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/471/SanyoDenki_San_Ace_40LG28_E-3198440.pdf
correctly, it lists some fans with a minimum speed of 7,500 RPM.

Guenter


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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Zev Weiss <zev@bewilderbeest.net>, baneric926@gmail.com
Cc: linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, jdelvare@suse.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, DELPHINE_CHIU@wiwynn.com,
	naresh.solanki@9elements.com, billy_tsai@aspeedtech.com,
	kcfeng0@nuvoton.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, kwliu@nuvoton.com,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: hwmon: fan: Add fan binding to schema
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 16:49:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03b6a094-b76d-4b4f-90d8-8b00219ec236@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e590e3ba-f446-4f20-9618-d4ff388586ad@roeck-us.net>

On 3/4/24 16:41, Guenter Roeck wrote:

>>> +
>>> +  min-rpm:
>>> +    description:
>>> +      Min RPM supported by fan.
>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
>>> +    maximum: 1000
>>
>> I can't say with certainty that it's not, but are we sure 1000 is low enough?  Looking at just what I've got on hand, an 80mm fan I have will run steadily at about 1500RPM, and I'd assume larger ones (e.g. 120mm) could potentially go significantly lower...
>>
> 
> I have seen fans which run stable at < 400rpm.
> One of my systems right now has:
> 
> fan1:              732 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan2:                0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan3:              586 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan4:              472 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> fan5:              480 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
> 
> Those are 80mm fans. A quick check shows that various Noctua fans have a
> minimum speed of 300 rpm. So 1000 is indeed a bit high for the minimum speed.
> 

No, wait, that is the _maximum_ minimum speed. Got me there.

So, there is Noctua's NF-A4x20 PWM with a minimum rotational speed of 1,200 RPM.

If I interpret
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/471/SanyoDenki_San_Ace_40LG28_E-3198440.pdf
correctly, it lists some fans with a minimum speed of 7,500 RPM.

Guenter


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27  0:56 [PATCH v4 0/3] hwmon: Driver for Nuvoton NCT7363Y baneric926
2024-02-27  0:56 ` baneric926
2024-02-27  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: hwmon: fan: Add fan binding to schema baneric926
2024-02-27  0:56   ` baneric926
2024-03-05  0:22   ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-05  0:22     ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-05  0:41     ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-05  0:41       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-05  0:49       ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2024-03-05  0:49         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-07  7:41     ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07  7:41       ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07 18:53   ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-07 18:53     ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-18  0:58     ` Ban Feng
2024-03-18  0:58       ` Ban Feng
2024-02-27  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add NCT7363Y documentation baneric926
2024-02-27  0:56   ` baneric926
2024-02-28  7:30   ` Paul Menzel
2024-02-28  7:30     ` Paul Menzel
2024-03-06  7:56     ` Ban Feng
2024-03-06  7:56       ` Ban Feng
2024-02-27  0:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] hwmon: Driver for Nuvoton NCT7363Y baneric926
2024-02-27  0:56   ` baneric926
2024-02-28  7:57   ` Paul Menzel
2024-02-28  7:57     ` Paul Menzel
2024-02-28  9:03     ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-28  9:03       ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-28 11:03       ` Paul Menzel
2024-02-28 11:03         ` Paul Menzel
2024-02-28 16:03         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-28 16:03           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-02-28 16:25           ` Commit messages (was: [PATCH v4 3/3] hwmon: Driver for Nuvoton NCT7363Y) Paul Menzel
2024-02-28 16:25             ` Paul Menzel
2024-03-07  0:58             ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07  0:58               ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07  0:55     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] hwmon: Driver for Nuvoton NCT7363Y Ban Feng
2024-03-07  0:55       ` Ban Feng
2024-03-02  8:18   ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-02  8:18     ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-05  0:28     ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-05  0:28       ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-07  7:36       ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07  7:36         ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07  7:35     ` Ban Feng
2024-03-07  7:35       ` Ban Feng
2024-03-12 23:18       ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-12 23:18         ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-12 23:58         ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-12 23:58           ` Guenter Roeck
2024-03-13  0:21           ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-13  0:21             ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-18  1:02             ` Ban Feng
2024-03-18  1:02               ` Ban Feng
2024-03-19  0:35               ` Zev Weiss
2024-03-19  0:35                 ` Zev Weiss
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-10-13  9:48 [PATCH v4 0/3] Add devicetree support for max6639 Naresh Solanki
2022-10-13  9:48 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] dt-bindings: hwmon: fan: Add fan binding to schema Naresh Solanki
2022-10-24 16:18   ` Rob Herring
2022-10-25  9:16     ` Naresh Solanki
2022-10-26 13:37       ` Rob Herring
2022-10-31  8:05         ` Naresh Solanki
2022-11-01 18:44           ` Rob Herring
2022-11-01 19:22             ` Naresh Solanki
2022-11-11 21:07             ` Naresh Solanki

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