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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-07-13 21:17 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-07-13 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     feedback
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              07-13-2006 23:17 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jcdutton - 07-09-06 17:42 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Please try the capture-fix.diff patch and report progress.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 07-13-06 23:17 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
jcdutton, forgive me, but I am very new to Linux.  Could you walk me
through the process of applying this patch?  I appreciate the effort you
put into making this available.  Now if only I could figure out how to use
it... :D

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
07-06-06 07:39 L0cKd0wN       Note Added: 0010855                          
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Note Edited: 0010855                         
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Issue Monitored: L0cKd0wN                    
07-09-06 17:38 jcdutton       File Added: capture-fix.diff                    
07-09-06 17:39 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010953                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010954                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Status                   assigned => feedback
07-13-06 23:17 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010996                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-07-31 23:28 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-07-31 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     feedback
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-01-2006 01:28 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 07-30-06 20:12 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi jcdutton,

After some experimentation and cursing I'm afraid I probably will not be
able to build this patch to test for you. I will attempt to shake out some
people downstream with a bit more experience that might be able to do it
instead.

The reason for my inability to do this is that patches in the HG SCM
repository are failing against the copy of alsa-kernel that comes with my
OS (AMD64 Ubuntu 6.06). Unfortunately, I don't feel I have the expertise
to resolve this issue and I don't have enough time to gain the knowledge
required to fix it (unless it's something that you can instruct me to
do).

For your knowledge, here is the failure that is currently occurring:

Hacking autoconf.h...
if [ ! -d include/sound -a ! -L include/sound ]; then \
          ln -sf ../alsa-kernel/include include/sound ; \
        fi
cp -auvf include/version.h include/sound/version.h
`include/version.h' -> `include/sound/version.h'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/home/colin/software/source/modules/alsa-driver/acore'
copying file alsa-kernel/core/info.c
patching file info.c
Hunk #3 succeeded at 122 with fuzz 1.
Hunk #7 succeeded at 484 with fuzz 1 (offset 11 lines).
Hunk #8 FAILED at 520.
Hunk #9 succeeded at 949 (offset 13 lines).
Hunk #10 succeeded at 997 with fuzz 2 (offset 12 lines).
1 out of 10 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file info.c.rej
make[1]: *** [info.c] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/colin/software/source/modules/alsa-driver/acore'
make: *** [dep] Error 1

I prepared the source by downloading the alsa-source package provided by
Ubuntu and untarring it, then by pulling the latest sources from the HG
SCM repository and overwriting the older files from the alsa-source
package. I also tried downloading a fresh copy of the HG SCM repository
and copied over ONLY the alsa-kernel directory, and it still failed.

Again, I will try to find someone downstream to test this patch. Hopefully
someone with a bit more experience will able to do so.

Regards,

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-01-06 01:28 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just don't use the Ubuntu ALSA packages, they are hacked up.  Get
everything from the HG repository, and just install it over the Ubuntu
ALSA.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
07-06-06 07:39 L0cKd0wN       Note Added: 0010855                          
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Note Edited: 0010855                         
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Issue Monitored: L0cKd0wN                    
07-09-06 17:38 jcdutton       File Added: capture-fix.diff                    
07-09-06 17:39 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010953                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010954                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Status                   assigned => feedback
07-13-06 23:17 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010996                          
07-15-06 00:26 snover         Note Added: 0011010                          
07-15-06 00:27 snover         Note Edited: 0011010                         
07-30-06 18:31 jcdutton       Note Added: 0011326                          
07-30-06 20:12 snover         Note Added: 0011329                          
08-01-06 01:28 rlrevell       Note Added: 0011357                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-07-30 18:12 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-07-30 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     feedback
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              07-30-2006 20:12 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jcdutton - 07-30-06 18:31 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
snover, That patch applies to the latest alsa hg. And not to the kernel
direct.
Please see http://alsa-project.org/download.php on how to get the HG
version.
Compile with
./hgcompile --with-cards=emu10k1

I should autodetect your current kernel, and build against it, if you have
compiled your own kernel. You have to use the same compiler for the kernel
compile as you do the ALSA modules.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 07-30-06 20:12 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi jcdutton,

After some experimentation and cursing I'm afraid I probably will not be
able to build this patch to test for you. I will attempt to shake out some
people downstream with a bit more experience that might be able to do it
instead.

The reason for my inability to do this is that patches in the HG SCM
repository are failing against the copy of alsa-kernel that comes with my
OS (AMD64 Ubuntu 6.06). Unfortunately, I don't feel I have the expertise
to resolve this issue and I don't have enough time to gain the knowledge
required to fix it (unless it's something that you can instruct me to
do).

For your knowledge, here is the failure that is currently occurring:

Hacking autoconf.h...
if [ ! -d include/sound -a ! -L include/sound ]; then \
          ln -sf ../alsa-kernel/include include/sound ; \
        fi
cp -auvf include/version.h include/sound/version.h
`include/version.h' -> `include/sound/version.h'
make[1]: Entering directory
`/home/colin/software/source/modules/alsa-driver/acore'
copying file alsa-kernel/core/info.c
patching file info.c
Hunk #3 succeeded at 122 with fuzz 1.
Hunk #7 succeeded at 484 with fuzz 1 (offset 11 lines).
Hunk #8 FAILED at 520.
Hunk #9 succeeded at 949 (offset 13 lines).
Hunk #10 succeeded at 997 with fuzz 2 (offset 12 lines).
1 out of 10 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file info.c.rej
make[1]: *** [info.c] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/colin/software/source/modules/alsa-driver/acore'
make: *** [dep] Error 1

I prepared the source by downloading the alsa-source package provided by
Ubuntu and untarring it, then by pulling the latest sources from the HG
SCM repository and overwriting the older files from the alsa-source
package. I also tried downloading a fresh copy of the HG SCM repository
and copied over ONLY the alsa-kernel directory, and it still failed.

Again, I will try to find someone downstream to test this patch. Hopefully
someone with a bit more experience will able to do so.

Regards,

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
07-06-06 07:39 L0cKd0wN       Note Added: 0010855                          
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Note Edited: 0010855                         
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Issue Monitored: L0cKd0wN                    
07-09-06 17:38 jcdutton       File Added: capture-fix.diff                    
07-09-06 17:39 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010953                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010954                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Status                   assigned => feedback
07-13-06 23:17 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010996                          
07-15-06 00:26 snover         Note Added: 0011010                          
07-15-06 00:27 snover         Note Edited: 0011010                         
07-30-06 18:31 jcdutton       Note Added: 0011326                          
07-30-06 20:12 snover         Note Added: 0011329                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-07-30 16:31 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-07-30 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     feedback
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              07-30-2006 18:31 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 07-15-06 00:27 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
jcdutton,

Thank you for the patch. However, it fails to compile for me.
Linux 2.6.15-25-amd64-k8 (Ubuntu Dapper 6.06)

$ patch emu10k1_main.c capture-fix.diff
patching file emu10k1_main.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 778 with fuzz 2 (offset -132 lines).

$ make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` SUBDIRS=$PWD modules
make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25-amd64-k8'
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_synth.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_callback.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_patch.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.o
/home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.c:781: error: unknown
field &#8216;adc_1361t&#8217; specified in initializer
make[1]: *** [/home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.o] Error 1
make: *** [_module_/home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25-amd64-k8'

Also this patch is applied only for Audigy 1 ES [SB0160] (rev.4,
serial:0x00521102); my card is the Audigy 2 ZS [2001] (rev.4,
serial:0x20011102).



----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jcdutton - 07-30-06 18:31 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
snover, That patch applies to the latest alsa hg. And not to the kernel
direct.
Please see http://alsa-project.org/download.php on how to get the HG
version.
Compile with
./hgcompile --with-cards=emu10k1

I should autodetect your current kernel, and build against it, if you have
compiled your own kernel. You have to use the same compiler for the kernel
compile as you do the ALSA modules.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
07-06-06 07:39 L0cKd0wN       Note Added: 0010855                          
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Note Edited: 0010855                         
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Issue Monitored: L0cKd0wN                    
07-09-06 17:38 jcdutton       File Added: capture-fix.diff                    
07-09-06 17:39 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010953                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010954                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Status                   assigned => feedback
07-13-06 23:17 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010996                          
07-15-06 00:26 snover         Note Added: 0011010                          
07-15-06 00:27 snover         Note Edited: 0011010                         
07-30-06 18:31 jcdutton       Note Added: 0011326                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-07-14 22:26 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-07-14 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     feedback
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              07-15-2006 00:26 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 07-13-06 23:17 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
jcdutton, forgive me, but I am very new to Linux.  Could you walk me
through the process of applying this patch?  I appreciate the effort you
put into making this available.  Now if only I could figure out how to use
it... :D

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 07-15-06 00:26 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
jcdutton,

This patch fails to compile on my box.
Linux 2.6.15-25-amd64-k8 (Ubuntu Dapper 6.06)

$ patch emu10k1_main.c capture-fix.diff
patching file emu10k1_main.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 778 with fuzz 2 (offset -132 lines).

$ make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` SUBDIRS=$PWD modules
make: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25-amd64-k8'
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_synth.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_callback.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_patch.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1.o
  CC [M]  /home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.o
/home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.c:781: error: unknown
field &#8216;adc_1361t&#8217; specified in initializer
make[1]: *** [/home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1/emu10k1_main.o] Error 1
make: *** [_module_/home/colin/software/kernel/emu10k1] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25-amd64-k8'

Also this patch is applied only for Audigy 1 ES [SB0160] (rev.4,
serial:0x00521102); my card is the Audigy 2 ZS [2001] (rev.4,
serial:0x20011102).

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
07-06-06 07:39 L0cKd0wN       Note Added: 0010855                          
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Note Edited: 0010855                         
07-06-06 07:40 L0cKd0wN       Issue Monitored: L0cKd0wN                    
07-09-06 17:38 jcdutton       File Added: capture-fix.diff                    
07-09-06 17:39 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010953                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010954                          
07-09-06 17:42 jcdutton       Status                   assigned => feedback
07-13-06 23:17 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010996                          
07-15-06 00:26 snover         Note Added: 0011010                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-07-06  5:40 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-07-06  5:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              07-06-2006 07:39 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jcdutton - 06-30-06 18:22 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Known problem. The problem is due to the way sound is routed. This has been
fixed for one creative sound card so far. I will upload a patch to try
when I get a moment.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 L0cKd0wN - 07-06-06 07:39 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I went ahead and posted this note under another issue, but might as well
put it here too.  m not sure if this is relevant or not, but Im using FC5
kernel 2.6.17-1.2145_FC5 i686 and have lost sound from my Creative Labs
Audigy 2 ZS Platinum card completely. In earlier kernel builds (the
version that was shipped on the FC5 dvd) I had sound, but with my recent
update, I have lost it.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
07-06-06 07:39 L0cKd0wN       Note Added: 0010855                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-06-30 16:23 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-06-30 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


The following issue has been ASSIGNED.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                jcdutton
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-30-2006 18:23 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-14-04 15:24 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to keep things updated: the problem stays there also with 2.6.8.1 and
ALSA 1.0.7rc1 (not compiled with the kernel).

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-04 10:16 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Driver only attenuate signals. If you set volumes of inputs and output to
100, then you get what is exactly on input.
Windows drivers probably amplify inputs or outputs. 

Could you attach output of amixer ????

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 11:37 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is my amixer output.
I think it's very strange that the driver only attenuate signals... I
can't believe that the maximum output from this card is so much more quiet
than the output of an AWE64 (with ALSA and win95 the output volume was
exactly the same). 
On this PC I also have an integrated sound card:

0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)

And in this case ALSA and win98 volume is quite the same.

Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the original signal is near to 100% of volume.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-04 12:17 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the >original signal is near to 100% of volume.

Try to set "IEC958 Optical Capture" to 100 in alsamixer and  record. Then 
check recorded file for signal level - maximum level - is this same as
source or it is lower ??? Best will be for example with cd player (optical
output connected to audigy). Recording something from this cd player. Then
you should grab this directly from cd (using some cd rip app) and compare
these two files if there is same volume level (They will be not same,
because emu10k1 always resamples).

Mixer in your other souncards are directly in hardware. On Audigy this
mixer is implemented in DSP software and can be changed. Output or input
can be amplifyed, but you will lose precision of your DAC or ADC.

If you set for example "IEC958 Optical", Front and Master to 100. What is
level compared to windows max mixer settings ???

I will check Audigy mixer if it is correct. Maybe I made some mistake.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 13:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I tried to record a CD track (1st mov. of 5th symphony by Beethoven :-))
with a CD player with the optical output connected to the input on the
audigy2 and IEC958 Capture at 100, then I tried connecting it to the RCA
connectors (analog inputs, 100% volume), then I recorded it playing the CD
in my CD-ROM reader (connected to the audigy2 "Audigy CD" digital input,
100% volume), then I ripped it with cdparanoia. These are the results
(well, I think I went wrong with "very low level". It appears just to be
"lower".)

arecord (IEC958 optical input, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.835510
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828491

arecord (Aux IN 2 on the front panel, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.727905
Minimum amplitude:    -0.715240

arecord (AudigyCD digital audio CD input, LiteON something DVD-ROM)
Maximum amplitude:     0.832703
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828522

cdparanoia:
Maximum amplitude:     0.933868
Minimum amplitude:    -0.923676

As for the comparison windows vs linux, I'll reboot in a few minutes then
I'll post the results.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jdthood - 08-30-05 12:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi.  What's the status of this bug.  Any improvement in later ALSA
releases?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 08-30-05 12:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No changes for me. It is still quite low.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-30-05 20:21 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you say Windows do you mean with the Creative driver?  Unfortunately
it's a black box.  Do you get the same results with this (vastly superior)
driver:

http://www.kxproject.com

If so then we can compare the AC97 registers.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 08-31-05 14:01 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not in AC97 - it is used only for recording - and is already on
max. I think diffrence are in DSP code.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-31-05 18:54 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could this be related to the "x4" stuff in the kX driver?  Inputs from the
ADC are multiplied by 4 (since the ADC is 16 bit and the DSP 32 bit) then
divided by 4 at the output.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 21:52 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I played with DSP and if everything is on 100 % then you get (when
recording) on output of DSP same amplitude of signal as on input. 
Playback can be diffrent and can be lower than in windows, but I don't
know, if it is, how much.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 01-26-06 21:55 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, so NOTABUG?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 22:03 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For now keep this bug open.
Recording from "mic in" is lower (compared to windows). I will post patch
(capture gain on AC97 needs to be set to 3-6 dB).
Recording from PCM is OK - when all volumes set 100% if you record PCM you
will get same recording volume as it was played.

I need to check recording from "line in" and playback part.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-19-06 16:33 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad made me aware of this issue after I reported the problem in the
Creative forum.  I have the same symptoms as garden: very low capture
volumes with the Line-level inputs Aux2 (stereo RCA) and Line2 (1/4"),
even with all the ALSA capture volumes set to 100%.  I can make the
signals clip in Windows, so I know my source levels are more than
adequate.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 06-21-06 23:19 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am experiencing a similar issue running 2.6.15 (2.6.15-25-amd64-k8) and
ALSA 1.0.10rc3 (Kubuntu Dapper 6.06) where the input levels are very very
low. Also, the "Line In 1/Mic 1" on the breakout box is mapped to Line2 in
ALSA, so "Mic Boost" does not work.

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Audigy2        ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [2001]
                     Audigy 2 ZS [2001] (rev.4, serial:0x20011102) at
0xc800, irq 74



----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-30-06 16:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad: is this issue ever going to be addressed (we're approaching the
two-year mark), or should I just give up on using Linux for audio
recording with my Audigy?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jcdutton - 06-30-06 18:22 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Known problem. The problem is due to the way sound is routed. This has been
fixed for one creative sound card so far. I will upload a patch to try
when I get a moment.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
06-30-06 18:23 jcdutton       Assigned To               => jcdutton        
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-06-30 16:22 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-06-30 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-30-2006 18:22 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-30-06 16:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad: is this issue ever going to be addressed (we're approaching the
two-year mark), or should I just give up on using Linux for audio
recording with my Audigy?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jcdutton - 06-30-06 18:22 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Known problem. The problem is due to the way sound is routed. This has been
fixed for one creative sound card so far. I will upload a patch to try
when I get a moment.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
06-30-06 18:22 jcdutton       Note Added: 0010750                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-06-30 14:34 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-06-30 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


The following issue has been ASSIGNED.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-30-2006 16:34 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-14-04 15:24 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to keep things updated: the problem stays there also with 2.6.8.1 and
ALSA 1.0.7rc1 (not compiled with the kernel).

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-04 10:16 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Driver only attenuate signals. If you set volumes of inputs and output to
100, then you get what is exactly on input.
Windows drivers probably amplify inputs or outputs. 

Could you attach output of amixer ????

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 11:37 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is my amixer output.
I think it's very strange that the driver only attenuate signals... I
can't believe that the maximum output from this card is so much more quiet
than the output of an AWE64 (with ALSA and win95 the output volume was
exactly the same). 
On this PC I also have an integrated sound card:

0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)

And in this case ALSA and win98 volume is quite the same.

Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the original signal is near to 100% of volume.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-04 12:17 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the >original signal is near to 100% of volume.

Try to set "IEC958 Optical Capture" to 100 in alsamixer and  record. Then 
check recorded file for signal level - maximum level - is this same as
source or it is lower ??? Best will be for example with cd player (optical
output connected to audigy). Recording something from this cd player. Then
you should grab this directly from cd (using some cd rip app) and compare
these two files if there is same volume level (They will be not same,
because emu10k1 always resamples).

Mixer in your other souncards are directly in hardware. On Audigy this
mixer is implemented in DSP software and can be changed. Output or input
can be amplifyed, but you will lose precision of your DAC or ADC.

If you set for example "IEC958 Optical", Front and Master to 100. What is
level compared to windows max mixer settings ???

I will check Audigy mixer if it is correct. Maybe I made some mistake.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 13:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I tried to record a CD track (1st mov. of 5th symphony by Beethoven :-))
with a CD player with the optical output connected to the input on the
audigy2 and IEC958 Capture at 100, then I tried connecting it to the RCA
connectors (analog inputs, 100% volume), then I recorded it playing the CD
in my CD-ROM reader (connected to the audigy2 "Audigy CD" digital input,
100% volume), then I ripped it with cdparanoia. These are the results
(well, I think I went wrong with "very low level". It appears just to be
"lower".)

arecord (IEC958 optical input, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.835510
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828491

arecord (Aux IN 2 on the front panel, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.727905
Minimum amplitude:    -0.715240

arecord (AudigyCD digital audio CD input, LiteON something DVD-ROM)
Maximum amplitude:     0.832703
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828522

cdparanoia:
Maximum amplitude:     0.933868
Minimum amplitude:    -0.923676

As for the comparison windows vs linux, I'll reboot in a few minutes then
I'll post the results.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jdthood - 08-30-05 12:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi.  What's the status of this bug.  Any improvement in later ALSA
releases?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 08-30-05 12:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No changes for me. It is still quite low.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-30-05 20:21 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you say Windows do you mean with the Creative driver?  Unfortunately
it's a black box.  Do you get the same results with this (vastly superior)
driver:

http://www.kxproject.com

If so then we can compare the AC97 registers.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 08-31-05 14:01 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not in AC97 - it is used only for recording - and is already on
max. I think diffrence are in DSP code.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-31-05 18:54 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could this be related to the "x4" stuff in the kX driver?  Inputs from the
ADC are multiplied by 4 (since the ADC is 16 bit and the DSP 32 bit) then
divided by 4 at the output.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 21:52 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I played with DSP and if everything is on 100 % then you get (when
recording) on output of DSP same amplitude of signal as on input. 
Playback can be diffrent and can be lower than in windows, but I don't
know, if it is, how much.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 01-26-06 21:55 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, so NOTABUG?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 22:03 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For now keep this bug open.
Recording from "mic in" is lower (compared to windows). I will post patch
(capture gain on AC97 needs to be set to 3-6 dB).
Recording from PCM is OK - when all volumes set 100% if you record PCM you
will get same recording volume as it was played.

I need to check recording from "line in" and playback part.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-19-06 16:33 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad made me aware of this issue after I reported the problem in the
Creative forum.  I have the same symptoms as garden: very low capture
volumes with the Line-level inputs Aux2 (stereo RCA) and Line2 (1/4"),
even with all the ALSA capture volumes set to 100%.  I can make the
signals clip in Windows, so I know my source levels are more than
adequate.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 06-21-06 23:19 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am experiencing a similar issue running 2.6.15 (2.6.15-25-amd64-k8) and
ALSA 1.0.10rc3 (Kubuntu Dapper 6.06) where the input levels are very very
low. Also, the "Line In 1/Mic 1" on the breakout box is mapped to Line2 in
ALSA, so "Mic Boost" does not work.

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Audigy2        ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [2001]
                     Audigy 2 ZS [2001] (rev.4, serial:0x20011102) at
0xc800, irq 74



----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-30-06 16:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad: is this issue ever going to be addressed (we're approaching the
two-year mark), or should I just give up on using Linux for audio
recording with my Audigy?

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
06-30-06 16:34 pzad           Assigned To              pzad =>             
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-06-30 14:33 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-06-30 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-30-2006 16:32 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 06-21-06 23:19 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am experiencing a similar issue running 2.6.15 (2.6.15-25-amd64-k8) and
ALSA 1.0.10rc3 (Kubuntu Dapper 6.06) where the input levels are very very
low. Also, the "Line In 1/Mic 1" on the breakout box is mapped to Line2 in
ALSA, so "Mic Boost" does not work.

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Audigy2        ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [2001]
                     Audigy 2 ZS [2001] (rev.4, serial:0x20011102) at
0xc800, irq 74



----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-30-06 16:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad: is this issue ever going to be addressed (we're approaching the
two-year mark), or should I just give up on using Linux for audio
recording with my Audigy?

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Issue Monitored: snover                      
06-21-06 23:19 snover         Note Edited: 0010409                         
06-30-06 16:32 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010739                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-06-21 21:18 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-06-21 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-21-2006 23:18 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-19-06 16:33 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad made me aware of this issue after I reported the problem in the
Creative forum.  I have the same symptoms as garden: very low capture
volumes with the Line-level inputs Aux2 (stereo RCA) and Line2 (1/4"),
even with all the ALSA capture volumes set to 100%.  I can make the
signals clip in Windows, so I know my source levels are more than
adequate.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 snover - 06-21-06 23:18 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am experiencing a similar issue running 2.6.15 (2.6.15-25-amd64-k8) and
ALSA 1.0.10rc3 (Kubuntu Dapper 6.06) where the input levels are very very
low. Also, the "Line In 1/Mic 1" on the breakout box is mapped to Line2 in
ALSA, so "Mic Boost" does not work.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
06-19-06 16:34 killrbuckeye   Issue Monitored: killrbuckeye                    
06-21-06 23:18 snover         Note Added: 0010409                          
======================================================================



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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-06-19 14:33 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-06-19 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-19-2006 16:33 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 22:03 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For now keep this bug open.
Recording from "mic in" is lower (compared to windows). I will post patch
(capture gain on AC97 needs to be set to 3-6 dB).
Recording from PCM is OK - when all volumes set 100% if you record PCM you
will get same recording volume as it was played.

I need to check recording from "line in" and playback part.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 killrbuckeye - 06-19-06 16:33 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
pzad made me aware of this issue after I reported the problem in the
Creative forum.  I have the same symptoms as garden: very low capture
volumes with the Line-level inputs Aux2 (stereo RCA) and Line2 (1/4"),
even with all the ALSA capture volumes set to 100%.  I can make the
signals clip in Windows, so I know my source levels are more than
adequate.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
01-26-06 22:03 pzad           Note Added: 0007791                          
01-28-06 23:11 andred         Issue Monitored: andred                      
06-19-06 16:33 killrbuckeye   Note Added: 0010316                          
======================================================================

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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-01-26 21:03 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-01-26 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              01-26-2006 22:03 CET
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 01-26-06 21:55 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, so NOTABUG?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 22:03 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For now keep this bug open.
Recording from "mic in" is lower (compared to windows). I will post patch
(capture gain on AC97 needs to be set to 3-6 dB).
Recording from PCM is OK - when all volumes set 100% if you record PCM you
will get same recording volume as it was played.

I need to check recording from "line in" and playback part.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-01-26 20:55 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-01-26 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              01-26-2006 21:55 CET
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 21:52 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I played with DSP and if everything is on 100 % then you get (when
recording) on output of DSP same amplitude of signal as on input. 
Playback can be diffrent and can be lower than in windows, but I don't
know, if it is, how much.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 01-26-06 21:55 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
OK, so NOTABUG?

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
01-26-06 21:55 rlrevell       Note Added: 0007790                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2006-01-26 20:52 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2006-01-26 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              01-26-2006 21:52 CET
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-31-05 18:54 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could this be related to the "x4" stuff in the kX driver?  Inputs from the
ADC are multiplied by 4 (since the ADC is 16 bit and the DSP 32 bit) then
divided by 4 at the output.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 01-26-06 21:52 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I played with DSP and if everything is on 100 % then you get (when
recording) on output of DSP same amplitude of signal as on input. 
Playback can be diffrent and can be lower than in windows, but I don't
know, if it is, how much.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
01-26-06 21:52 pzad           Note Added: 0007789                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2005-08-31 16:54 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2005-08-31 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-31-2005 18:54 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 08-31-05 14:01 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not in AC97 - it is used only for recording - and is already on
max. I think diffrence are in DSP code.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-31-05 18:54 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Could this be related to the "x4" stuff in the kX driver?  Inputs from the
ADC are multiplied by 4 (since the ADC is 16 bit and the DSP 32 bit) then
divided by 4 at the output.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
08-31-05 18:54 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005990                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2005-08-31 12:01 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2005-08-31 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-31-2005 14:01 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-30-05 20:21 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you say Windows do you mean with the Creative driver?  Unfortunately
it's a black box.  Do you get the same results with this (vastly superior)
driver:

http://www.kxproject.com

If so then we can compare the AC97 registers.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 08-31-05 14:01 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not in AC97 - it is used only for recording - and is already on
max. I think diffrence are in DSP code.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
08-31-05 14:01 pzad           Note Added: 0005988                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2005-08-31 11:22 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2005-08-31 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


The following issue has been UPDATED.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-31-2005 13:22 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-14-04 15:24 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to keep things updated: the problem stays there also with 2.6.8.1 and
ALSA 1.0.7rc1 (not compiled with the kernel).

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-04 10:16 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Driver only attenuate signals. If you set volumes of inputs and output to
100, then you get what is exactly on input.
Windows drivers probably amplify inputs or outputs. 

Could you attach output of amixer ????

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 11:37 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is my amixer output.
I think it's very strange that the driver only attenuate signals... I
can't believe that the maximum output from this card is so much more quiet
than the output of an AWE64 (with ALSA and win95 the output volume was
exactly the same). 
On this PC I also have an integrated sound card:

0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)

And in this case ALSA and win98 volume is quite the same.

Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the original signal is near to 100% of volume.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-04 12:17 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the >original signal is near to 100% of volume.

Try to set "IEC958 Optical Capture" to 100 in alsamixer and  record. Then 
check recorded file for signal level - maximum level - is this same as
source or it is lower ??? Best will be for example with cd player (optical
output connected to audigy). Recording something from this cd player. Then
you should grab this directly from cd (using some cd rip app) and compare
these two files if there is same volume level (They will be not same,
because emu10k1 always resamples).

Mixer in your other souncards are directly in hardware. On Audigy this
mixer is implemented in DSP software and can be changed. Output or input
can be amplifyed, but you will lose precision of your DAC or ADC.

If you set for example "IEC958 Optical", Front and Master to 100. What is
level compared to windows max mixer settings ???

I will check Audigy mixer if it is correct. Maybe I made some mistake.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 13:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I tried to record a CD track (1st mov. of 5th symphony by Beethoven :-))
with a CD player with the optical output connected to the input on the
audigy2 and IEC958 Capture at 100, then I tried connecting it to the RCA
connectors (analog inputs, 100% volume), then I recorded it playing the CD
in my CD-ROM reader (connected to the audigy2 "Audigy CD" digital input,
100% volume), then I ripped it with cdparanoia. These are the results
(well, I think I went wrong with "very low level". It appears just to be
"lower".)

arecord (IEC958 optical input, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.835510
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828491

arecord (Aux IN 2 on the front panel, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.727905
Minimum amplitude:    -0.715240

arecord (AudigyCD digital audio CD input, LiteON something DVD-ROM)
Maximum amplitude:     0.832703
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828522

cdparanoia:
Maximum amplitude:     0.933868
Minimum amplitude:    -0.923676

As for the comparison windows vs linux, I'll reboot in a few minutes then
I'll post the results.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jdthood - 08-30-05 12:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi.  What's the status of this bug.  Any improvement in later ALSA
releases?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 08-30-05 12:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No changes for me. It is still quite low.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-30-05 20:21 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you say Windows do you mean with the Creative driver?  Unfortunately
it's a black box.  Do you get the same results with this (vastly superior)
driver:

http://www.kxproject.com

If so then we can compare the AC97 registers.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2005-08-30 18:21 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2005-08-30 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-30-2005 20:21 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 08-30-05 12:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No changes for me. It is still quite low.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 rlrevell - 08-30-05 20:21 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When you say Windows do you mean with the Creative driver?  Unfortunately
it's a black box.  Do you get the same results with this (vastly superior)
driver:

http://www.kxproject.com

If so then we can compare the AC97 registers.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
08-30-05 20:21 rlrevell       Note Added: 0005981                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2005-08-30 10:32 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2005-08-30 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-30-2005 12:32 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jdthood - 08-30-05 12:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi.  What's the status of this bug.  Any improvement in later ALSA
releases?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 08-30-05 12:32 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No changes for me. It is still quite low.

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
08-30-05 12:32 garden         Note Added: 0005978                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2005-08-30 10:23 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2005-08-30 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A NOTE has been added to this issue.
======================================================================
<https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=324> 
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Issue ID:                   324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              08-30-2005 12:23 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-04 13:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I tried to record a CD track (1st mov. of 5th symphony by Beethoven :-))
with a CD player with the optical output connected to the input on the
audigy2 and IEC958 Capture at 100, then I tried connecting it to the RCA
connectors (analog inputs, 100% volume), then I recorded it playing the CD
in my CD-ROM reader (connected to the audigy2 "Audigy CD" digital input,
100% volume), then I ripped it with cdparanoia. These are the results
(well, I think I went wrong with "very low level". It appears just to be
"lower".)

arecord (IEC958 optical input, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.835510
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828491

arecord (Aux IN 2 on the front panel, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.727905
Minimum amplitude:    -0.715240

arecord (AudigyCD digital audio CD input, LiteON something DVD-ROM)
Maximum amplitude:     0.832703
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828522

cdparanoia:
Maximum amplitude:     0.933868
Minimum amplitude:    -0.923676

As for the comparison windows vs linux, I'll reboot in a few minutes then
I'll post the results.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 jdthood - 08-30-05 12:23 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi.  What's the status of this bug.  Any improvement in later ALSA
releases?

Issue History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Issue                                    
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Note Added: 0001758                          
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Note Added: 0001766                          
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Note Added: 0001769                          
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Note Added: 0001772                          
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Note Added: 0001773                          
08-30-05 12:23 jdthood        Note Added: 0005975                          
======================================================================




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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2004-09-16 11:23 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2004-09-16 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A BUGNOTE has been added to this bug.
======================================================================
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0000324
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Bug ID:                     324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              09-16-2004 13:23 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-14-2004 15:24 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to keep things updated: the problem stays there also with 2.6.8.1 and
ALSA 1.0.7rc1 (not compiled with the kernel).

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-2004 10:16 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Driver only attenuate signals. If you set volumes of inputs and output to
100, then you get what is exactly on input.
Windows drivers probably amplify inputs or outputs. 

Could you attach output of amixer ????

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-2004 11:37 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is my amixer output.
I think it's very strange that the driver only attenuate signals... I
can't believe that the maximum output from this card is so much more quiet
than the output of an AWE64 (with ALSA and win95 the output volume was
exactly the same). 
On this PC I also have an integrated sound card:

0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)

And in this case ALSA and win98 volume is quite the same.

Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the original signal is near to 100% of volume.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-2004 12:17 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Moreover, I also have very low levels with optical *input*, and I'm sure
that the >original signal is near to 100% of volume.

Try to set "IEC958 Optical Capture" to 100 in alsamixer and  record. Then 
check recorded file for signal level - maximum level - is this same as
source or it is lower ??? Best will be for example with cd player (optical
output connected to audigy). Recording something from this cd player. Then
you should grab this directly from cd (using some cd rip app) and compare
these two files if there is same volume level (They will be not same,
because emu10k1 always resamples).

Mixer in your other souncards are directly in hardware. On Audigy this
mixer is implemented in DSP software and can be changed. Output or input
can be amplifyed, but you will lose precision of your DAC or ADC.

If you set for example "IEC958 Optical", Front and Master to 100. What is
level compared to windows max mixer settings ???

I will check Audigy mixer if it is correct. Maybe I made some mistake.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-16-2004 13:23 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I tried to record a CD track (1st mov. of 5th symphony by Beethoven :-))
with a CD player with the optical output connected to the input on the
audigy2 and IEC958 Capture at 100, then I tried connecting it to the RCA
connectors (analog inputs, 100% volume), then I recorded it playing the CD
in my CD-ROM reader (connected to the audigy2 "Audigy CD" digital input,
100% volume), then I ripped it with cdparanoia. These are the results
(well, I think I went wrong with "very low level". It appears just to be
"lower".)

arecord (IEC958 optical input, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.835510
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828491

arecord (Aux IN 2 on the front panel, Sony MXD-D1)
Maximum amplitude:     0.727905
Minimum amplitude:    -0.715240

arecord (AudigyCD digital audio CD input, LiteON something DVD-ROM)
Maximum amplitude:     0.832703
Minimum amplitude:    -0.828522

cdparanoia:
Maximum amplitude:     0.933868
Minimum amplitude:    -0.923676

As for the comparison windows vs linux, I'll reboot in a few minutes then
I'll post the results.

Bug History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Bug                                      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Bugnote Added: 0001758                       
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Bugnote Added: 0001766                       
09-16-04 11:32 garden         File Added: amixer.out                       
09-16-04 11:37 garden         Bugnote Added: 0001769                       
09-16-04 12:17 pzad           Bugnote Added: 0001772                       
09-16-04 13:23 garden         Bugnote Added: 0001773                       
======================================================================


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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2004-09-16  8:16 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2004-09-16  8:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A BUGNOTE has been added to this bug.
======================================================================
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0000324
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Bug ID:                     324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              09-16-2004 10:16 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-14-2004 15:24 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to keep things updated: the problem stays there also with 2.6.8.1 and
ALSA 1.0.7rc1 (not compiled with the kernel).

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 pzad - 09-16-2004 10:16 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Driver only attenuate signals. If you set volumes of inputs and output to
100, then you get what is exactly on input.
Windows drivers probably amplify inputs or outputs. 

Could you attach output of amixer ????

Bug History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Bug                                      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Bugnote Added: 0001758                       
09-16-04 10:16 pzad           Bugnote Added: 0001766                       
======================================================================


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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2004-09-14 13:25 bugtrack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: bugtrack @ 2004-09-14 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


A BUGNOTE has been added to this bug.
======================================================================
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0000324
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Bug ID:                     324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              09-14-2004 15:24 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

----------------------------------------------------------------------
 garden - 09-14-2004 15:24 CEST 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just to keep things updated: the problem stays there also with 2.6.8.1 and
ALSA 1.0.7rc1 (not compiled with the kernel).

Bug History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Bug                                      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
09-14-04 15:24 garden         Bugnote Added: 0001758                       
======================================================================


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* [ALSA - driver 0000324]: Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
@ 2004-06-28  7:17 noreply
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: noreply @ 2004-06-28  7:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel


The following bug has been ASSIGNED.
======================================================================
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0000324
======================================================================
Reported By:                garden
Assigned To:                pzad
======================================================================
Project:                    ALSA - driver
Bug ID:                     324
Category:                   PCI - emu10k1
Reproducibility:            always
Severity:                   major
Priority:                   normal
Status:                     assigned
Distribution:               Debian sid
Kernel Version:             2.6.5
======================================================================
Date Submitted:             06-06-2004 13:17 CEST
Last Modified:              06-28-2004 09:17 CEST
======================================================================
Summary:                    Audigy2 Platinum: very low volume (both in and out)
Description: 
Both the input and output levels of my Audigy2 Platinum seem to be very low
if compared to the same card with Windows (win98se). For example, I
connected an external source (a MD player with very loud music in the
disc) to the optical input, then to the aux input, then to the aux2 input.
With the mixer settings to 100% the input level still does not go over
20-25% of the maximum amplitude (while with Windows I have to lower the
input level or it will be too high). The same thing applies to the output
level of my analog speakers. [I must be *very* careful when I reboot with
Windows and must not forget to turn the volume knob from 10 to 2]. I had
exactly the same problem when I used the emu10k1 drivers from sourceforge.
======================================================================

Bug History
Date Modified  Username       Field                    Change              
======================================================================
06-06-04 13:17 garden         New Bug                                      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Distribution              => Debian sid      
06-06-04 13:17 garden         Kernel Version            => 2.6.5           
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Assigned To               => pzad            
06-28-04 09:17 pzad           Status                   new => assigned     
======================================================================




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