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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "'Michal Hocko'" <mhocko@kernel.org>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v10 09/10] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:11:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD008BB4D@AcuExch.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171006114729.fexwklupkhyxdpt3@dhcp22.suse.cz>

From: Michal Hocko
> Sent: 06 October 2017 12:47
> On Fri 06-10-17 11:10:14, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Pavel Tatashin
> > > Sent: 05 October 2017 22:11
> > > vmemmap_alloc_block() will no longer zero the block, so zero memory
> > > at its call sites for everything except struct pages.  Struct page memory
> > > is zero'd by struct page initialization.
> >
> > It seems dangerous to change an allocator to stop zeroing memory.
> > It is probably saver to add a new function that doesn't zero
> > the memory and use that is the places where you don't want it
> > to be zeroed.
> 
> Not sure what you mean. memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw is a new
> function which doesn't zero out...

You should probably leave vmemap_alloc_block() zeroing the memory
so that existing alls don't have to be changed - apart from the
ones you are explicitly optimising.

	David

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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RE: [PATCH v10 09/10] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 12:11:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD008BB4D@AcuExch.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171006114729.fexwklupkhyxdpt3@dhcp22.suse.cz>

From: Michal Hocko
> Sent: 06 October 2017 12:47
> On Fri 06-10-17 11:10:14, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Pavel Tatashin
> > > Sent: 05 October 2017 22:11
> > > vmemmap_alloc_block() will no longer zero the block, so zero memory
> > > at its call sites for everything except struct pages.  Struct page memory
> > > is zero'd by struct page initialization.
> >
> > It seems dangerous to change an allocator to stop zeroing memory.
> > It is probably saver to add a new function that doesn't zero
> > the memory and use that is the places where you don't want it
> > to be zeroed.
> 
> Not sure what you mean. memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw is a new
> function which doesn't zero out...

You should probably leave vmemap_alloc_block() zeroing the memory
so that existing alls don't have to be changed - apart from the
ones you are explicitly optimising.

	David

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Michal Hocko' <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: 'Pavel Tatashin' <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"sparclinux@vger.kernel.org" <sparclinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kasan-dev@googlegroups.com" <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	"borntraeger@de.ibm.com" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com" <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	"sam@ravnborg.org" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"steven.sistare@oracle.com" <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	"daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com" <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	"bob.picco@oracle.com" <bob.picco@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v10 09/10] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:11:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD008BB4D@AcuExch.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171006114729.fexwklupkhyxdpt3@dhcp22.suse.cz>

From: Michal Hocko
> Sent: 06 October 2017 12:47
> On Fri 06-10-17 11:10:14, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Pavel Tatashin
> > > Sent: 05 October 2017 22:11
> > > vmemmap_alloc_block() will no longer zero the block, so zero memory
> > > at its call sites for everything except struct pages.  Struct page memory
> > > is zero'd by struct page initialization.
> >
> > It seems dangerous to change an allocator to stop zeroing memory.
> > It is probably saver to add a new function that doesn't zero
> > the memory and use that is the places where you don't want it
> > to be zeroed.
> 
> Not sure what you mean. memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw is a new
> function which doesn't zero out...

You should probably leave vmemap_alloc_block() zeroing the memory
so that existing alls don't have to be changed - apart from the
ones you are explicitly optimising.

	David

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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Michal Hocko' <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: 'Pavel Tatashin' <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"sparclinux@vger.kernel.org" <sparclinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kasan-dev@googlegroups.com" <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	"borntraeger@de.ibm.com" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	"heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com" <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"willy@infradead.org" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"will.deacon@arm.com" <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"catalin.marinas@arm.com" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"sam@ravnborg.org" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"steven.sistare@oracle.com" <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	"daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com" <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	"bob.picco@oracle.com" <bob.picco@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v10 09/10] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:11:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD008BB4D@AcuExch.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171006114729.fexwklupkhyxdpt3@dhcp22.suse.cz>

From: Michal Hocko
> Sent: 06 October 2017 12:47
> On Fri 06-10-17 11:10:14, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Pavel Tatashin
> > > Sent: 05 October 2017 22:11
> > > vmemmap_alloc_block() will no longer zero the block, so zero memory
> > > at its call sites for everything except struct pages.  Struct page me=
mory
> > > is zero'd by struct page initialization.
> >
> > It seems dangerous to change an allocator to stop zeroing memory.
> > It is probably saver to add a new function that doesn't zero
> > the memory and use that is the places where you don't want it
> > to be zeroed.
>=20
> Not sure what you mean. memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw is a new
> function which doesn't zero out...

You should probably leave vmemap_alloc_block() zeroing the memory
so that existing alls don't have to be changed - apart from the
ones you are explicitly optimising.

	David

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David.Laight@ACULAB.COM (David Laight)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v10 09/10] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:11:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD008BB4D@AcuExch.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171006114729.fexwklupkhyxdpt3@dhcp22.suse.cz>

From: Michal Hocko
> Sent: 06 October 2017 12:47
> On Fri 06-10-17 11:10:14, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Pavel Tatashin
> > > Sent: 05 October 2017 22:11
> > > vmemmap_alloc_block() will no longer zero the block, so zero memory
> > > at its call sites for everything except struct pages.  Struct page memory
> > > is zero'd by struct page initialization.
> >
> > It seems dangerous to change an allocator to stop zeroing memory.
> > It is probably saver to add a new function that doesn't zero
> > the memory and use that is the places where you don't want it
> > to be zeroed.
> 
> Not sure what you mean. memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw is a new
> function which doesn't zero out...

You should probably leave vmemap_alloc_block() zeroing the memory
so that existing alls don't have to be changed - apart from the
ones you are explicitly optimising.

	David

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-06 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-05 21:11 [PATCH v10 00/10] complete deferred page initialization Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 01/10] x86/mm: setting fields in deferred pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 02/10] sparc64/mm: " Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 03/10] sparc64: simplify vmemmap_populate Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 04/10] mm: defining memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 05/10] mm: zero reserved and unavailable struct pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-06 12:30   ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:30     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:30     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:30     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 15:25     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-10-06 15:25       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-10-06 15:25       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-10-06 15:25       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-10-10 13:39       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 13:39         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 13:39         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-10 13:39         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 06/10] mm/kasan: kasan specific map populate function Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 07/10] x86/kasan: use kasan_map_populate() Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 08/10] arm64/kasan: " Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 09/10] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-06 11:10   ` David Laight
2017-10-06 11:10     ` David Laight
2017-10-06 11:10     ` David Laight
2017-10-06 11:10     ` David Laight
2017-10-06 11:10     ` David Laight
2017-10-06 11:47     ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 11:47       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 11:47       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 11:47       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 11:47       ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:11       ` David Laight [this message]
2017-10-06 12:11         ` David Laight
2017-10-06 12:11         ` David Laight
2017-10-06 12:11         ` David Laight
2017-10-06 12:11         ` David Laight
2017-10-06 12:25         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:25           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:25           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:25           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-06 12:25           ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-05 21:11 ` [PATCH v10 10/10] sparc64: optimized struct page zeroing Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-10-05 21:11   ` Pavel Tatashin

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