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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] drm/connector: Add support for out-of-band hotplug notification
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 17:34:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <077edd03-c24f-01ac-18da-5b6fca8ce7c0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJFfuF3UGP0TZrVw@kuha.fi.intel.com>

Hi,

On 5/4/21 4:52 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 04:35:29PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 5/3/21 10:00 AM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:52:52PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> +/**
>>>> + * struct drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event_data: OOB hotplug event data
>>>> + *
>>>> + * Contains data about out-of-band hotplug events, signalled through
>>>> + * drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event().
>>>> + */
>>>> +struct drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event_data {
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @connected: New connected status for the connector.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	bool connected;
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @dp_lanes: Number of available displayport lanes, 0 if unknown.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	int dp_lanes;
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @orientation: Connector orientation.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	enum typec_orientation orientation;
>>>> +};
>>>
>>> I don't think the orientation is relevant. It will always be "normal"
>>> from DP PoW after muxing, no?
>>
>> That is what I thought to, but during the discussion of my previous attempt
>> at this one of the i915 devs mentioned that in some cases the muxes manage
>> to swap the lane order when the connector upside-down and at least the
>> Intel GPUs can correct for this on the GPU side, so they asked for this
>> info to be included.
>>
>>> I'm also not sure those deatils are enough in the long run. Based on
>>> what I've understood from our graphics team guys, for example knowing
>>> if multi-function is preferred may be important in some cases.
>>
>> The current data being passed is just intended as a starting point,
>> this is purely a kernel internal API so we can easily add more
>> data to the struct. As I mentioned in the cover-letter the current
>> oob_hotplug handler which the i915 patch adds to the i915 driver does
>> not actually do anything with the data.  ATM it is purely there to
>> demonstrate that the ability to pass relevant data is there now
>> (which was an issue with the previous attempt). I believe the current
>> code is fine as a PoC of "pass event data" once GPU drivers actually
>> start doing something with the data we can extend or outright replace
>> it without issues.
> 
> Ah, if there is nothing using that information yet, then just don't
> pass it at all for now. As you said, it's kernel internal API, we can
> change it later if needed.
> 
>>> All of that, and more, is already available in the Configuration VDO
>>> Status VDO that the we have negotiated with the DP partner. Both those
>>> VDOs are part of struct typec_displayport_data. I think we should
>>> simply supply that structure to the DRM code instead of picking those
>>> details out of it...
>>
>> I'm not sure I like the idea of passing the raw VDO, but if the
>> DRM folks think that would be useful we can certainly add it.
> 
> Why are you against passing all the data that we have? What is the
> benefit in picking only certain details out of an object that has a
> standard format, and constructing a customised object for those
> details instead?

The VDO is Type-C specific and the drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event()
is intended to be a generic API.

There are other OOB event sources, e.g. the drivers/apci/acpi_video.c
code receives hotplug events for connectors on powered-down GPUs
on dual/hybrid GPU laptops. ATM the GPU drivers register an ACPI
notifier to catch these; and there are no immediate plans to change
this, but this does illustrate how OOB hotplug notification is not
just a Type-C thing, where as the VDO and its format very much
are Type-C things.

Regards,

Hans


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] drm/connector: Add support for out-of-band hotplug notification
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 17:34:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <077edd03-c24f-01ac-18da-5b6fca8ce7c0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJFfuF3UGP0TZrVw@kuha.fi.intel.com>

Hi,

On 5/4/21 4:52 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 04:35:29PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 5/3/21 10:00 AM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:52:52PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> +/**
>>>> + * struct drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event_data: OOB hotplug event data
>>>> + *
>>>> + * Contains data about out-of-band hotplug events, signalled through
>>>> + * drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event().
>>>> + */
>>>> +struct drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event_data {
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @connected: New connected status for the connector.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	bool connected;
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @dp_lanes: Number of available displayport lanes, 0 if unknown.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	int dp_lanes;
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @orientation: Connector orientation.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	enum typec_orientation orientation;
>>>> +};
>>>
>>> I don't think the orientation is relevant. It will always be "normal"
>>> from DP PoW after muxing, no?
>>
>> That is what I thought to, but during the discussion of my previous attempt
>> at this one of the i915 devs mentioned that in some cases the muxes manage
>> to swap the lane order when the connector upside-down and at least the
>> Intel GPUs can correct for this on the GPU side, so they asked for this
>> info to be included.
>>
>>> I'm also not sure those deatils are enough in the long run. Based on
>>> what I've understood from our graphics team guys, for example knowing
>>> if multi-function is preferred may be important in some cases.
>>
>> The current data being passed is just intended as a starting point,
>> this is purely a kernel internal API so we can easily add more
>> data to the struct. As I mentioned in the cover-letter the current
>> oob_hotplug handler which the i915 patch adds to the i915 driver does
>> not actually do anything with the data.  ATM it is purely there to
>> demonstrate that the ability to pass relevant data is there now
>> (which was an issue with the previous attempt). I believe the current
>> code is fine as a PoC of "pass event data" once GPU drivers actually
>> start doing something with the data we can extend or outright replace
>> it without issues.
> 
> Ah, if there is nothing using that information yet, then just don't
> pass it at all for now. As you said, it's kernel internal API, we can
> change it later if needed.
> 
>>> All of that, and more, is already available in the Configuration VDO
>>> Status VDO that the we have negotiated with the DP partner. Both those
>>> VDOs are part of struct typec_displayport_data. I think we should
>>> simply supply that structure to the DRM code instead of picking those
>>> details out of it...
>>
>> I'm not sure I like the idea of passing the raw VDO, but if the
>> DRM folks think that would be useful we can certainly add it.
> 
> Why are you against passing all the data that we have? What is the
> benefit in picking only certain details out of an object that has a
> standard format, and constructing a customised object for those
> details instead?

The VDO is Type-C specific and the drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event()
is intended to be a generic API.

There are other OOB event sources, e.g. the drivers/apci/acpi_video.c
code receives hotplug events for connectors on powered-down GPUs
on dual/hybrid GPU laptops. ATM the GPU drivers register an ACPI
notifier to catch these; and there are no immediate plans to change
this, but this does illustrate how OOB hotplug notification is not
just a Type-C thing, where as the VDO and its format very much
are Type-C things.

Regards,

Hans

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dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 4/9] drm/connector: Add support for out-of-band hotplug notification
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 17:34:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <077edd03-c24f-01ac-18da-5b6fca8ce7c0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YJFfuF3UGP0TZrVw@kuha.fi.intel.com>

Hi,

On 5/4/21 4:52 PM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 04:35:29PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 5/3/21 10:00 AM, Heikki Krogerus wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:52:52PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>> +/**
>>>> + * struct drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event_data: OOB hotplug event data
>>>> + *
>>>> + * Contains data about out-of-band hotplug events, signalled through
>>>> + * drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event().
>>>> + */
>>>> +struct drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event_data {
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @connected: New connected status for the connector.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	bool connected;
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @dp_lanes: Number of available displayport lanes, 0 if unknown.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	int dp_lanes;
>>>> +	/**
>>>> +	 * @orientation: Connector orientation.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	enum typec_orientation orientation;
>>>> +};
>>>
>>> I don't think the orientation is relevant. It will always be "normal"
>>> from DP PoW after muxing, no?
>>
>> That is what I thought to, but during the discussion of my previous attempt
>> at this one of the i915 devs mentioned that in some cases the muxes manage
>> to swap the lane order when the connector upside-down and at least the
>> Intel GPUs can correct for this on the GPU side, so they asked for this
>> info to be included.
>>
>>> I'm also not sure those deatils are enough in the long run. Based on
>>> what I've understood from our graphics team guys, for example knowing
>>> if multi-function is preferred may be important in some cases.
>>
>> The current data being passed is just intended as a starting point,
>> this is purely a kernel internal API so we can easily add more
>> data to the struct. As I mentioned in the cover-letter the current
>> oob_hotplug handler which the i915 patch adds to the i915 driver does
>> not actually do anything with the data.  ATM it is purely there to
>> demonstrate that the ability to pass relevant data is there now
>> (which was an issue with the previous attempt). I believe the current
>> code is fine as a PoC of "pass event data" once GPU drivers actually
>> start doing something with the data we can extend or outright replace
>> it without issues.
> 
> Ah, if there is nothing using that information yet, then just don't
> pass it at all for now. As you said, it's kernel internal API, we can
> change it later if needed.
> 
>>> All of that, and more, is already available in the Configuration VDO
>>> Status VDO that the we have negotiated with the DP partner. Both those
>>> VDOs are part of struct typec_displayport_data. I think we should
>>> simply supply that structure to the DRM code instead of picking those
>>> details out of it...
>>
>> I'm not sure I like the idea of passing the raw VDO, but if the
>> DRM folks think that would be useful we can certainly add it.
> 
> Why are you against passing all the data that we have? What is the
> benefit in picking only certain details out of an object that has a
> standard format, and constructing a customised object for those
> details instead?

The VDO is Type-C specific and the drm_connector_oob_hotplug_event()
is intended to be a generic API.

There are other OOB event sources, e.g. the drivers/apci/acpi_video.c
code receives hotplug events for connectors on powered-down GPUs
on dual/hybrid GPU laptops. ATM the GPU drivers register an ACPI
notifier to catch these; and there are no immediate plans to change
this, but this does illustrate how OOB hotplug notification is not
just a Type-C thing, where as the VDO and its format very much
are Type-C things.

Regards,

Hans

_______________________________________________
Intel-gfx mailing list
Intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/intel-gfx

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-04 15:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-28 21:52 [PATCH 0/9] drm + usb-type-c: Add support for out-of-band hotplug notification Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 1/9] drm/connector: Make the drm_sysfs connector->kdev device hold a reference to the connector Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 11:40   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 11:40     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 11:40     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 11:54     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-29 11:54       ` [Intel-gfx] " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-29 11:54       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-29 12:04       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 12:04         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 12:04         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 12:33         ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 12:33           ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 12:33           ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 19:09           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 19:09             ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-29 19:09             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 11:28             ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 11:28               ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 11:28               ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 11:38               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 11:38                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 11:38                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 13:32                 ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 13:32                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 13:32                   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 14:30                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 14:30                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 14:30                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-30 13:45                 ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 13:45                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-30 13:45                   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 12:30     ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 12:30       ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-29 12:30       ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 2/9] drm/connector: Add a fwnode pointer to drm_connector and register with ACPI Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 3/9] drm/connector: Add drm_connector_find_by_fwnode() function Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 4/9] drm/connector: Add support for out-of-band hotplug notification Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-05-03  8:00   ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-05-03  8:00     ` [Intel-gfx] " Heikki Krogerus
2021-05-03  8:00     ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-05-03 14:35     ` Hans de Goede
2021-05-03 14:35       ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-05-03 14:35       ` Hans de Goede
2021-05-04 14:52       ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-05-04 14:52         ` [Intel-gfx] " Heikki Krogerus
2021-05-04 14:52         ` Heikki Krogerus
2021-05-04 15:34         ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2021-05-04 15:34           ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-05-04 15:34           ` Hans de Goede
2021-05-04 12:53     ` Imre Deak
2021-05-04 12:53       ` [Intel-gfx] " Imre Deak
2021-05-04 12:53       ` Imre Deak
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 5/9] drm/i915: Associate ACPI connector nodes with connector entries Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 6/9] drm/i915/dp: Add support for out-of-bound hotplug events Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 7/9] usb: typec: altmodes/displayport: Make dp_altmode_notify() more generic Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 8/9] usb: typec: altmodes/displayport: Notify drm subsys of hotplug events Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29  2:08   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-29 14:16     ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-29  4:40   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 9/9] platform/x86/intel_cht_int33fe: Correct "displayport" fwnode reference Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:52   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:57 ` [PATCH 0/9] drm + usb-type-c: Add support for out-of-band hotplug notification Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:57   ` [Intel-gfx] " Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 21:57   ` Hans de Goede
2021-04-28 22:18 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for " Patchwork
2021-04-28 22:21 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2021-04-28 22:49 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2021-04-29  0:26 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork

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