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From: Jungseok Lee <jungseoklee85@gmail.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Cc: takahiro.akashi@linaro.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, barami97@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: Expand the stack trace feature to support IRQ stack
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:53:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07A53E87-C562-48D1-86DF-A373EAAA73F9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5617CE26.10604@arm.com>

On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:24 PM, James Morse wrote:
> Hi Jungseok,

Hi James,

> On 07/10/15 16:28, Jungseok Lee wrote:
>> Currently, a call trace drops a process stack walk when a separate IRQ
>> stack is used. It makes a call trace information much less useful when
>> a system gets paniked in interrupt context.
> 
> panicked

I will fix the typo.

>> This patch addresses the issue with the following schemes:
>> 
>>  - Store aborted stack frame data
>>  - Decide whether another stack walk is needed or not via current sp
>>  - Loosen the frame pointer upper bound condition
> 
> It may be worth merging this patch with its predecessor - anyone trying to
> bisect a problem could land between these two patches, and spend time
> debugging the truncated call traces.

It was an original intention to lead them to this patch, not the [1/2] one.
This separation would help anyone touching the call trace feature including
me focus on these changes apart from stack allocation, IRQ recursion check
and thread_info management.

In addition, I would like to add a clear and sufficient explanation on the
frame pointer condition.

>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h
>> index 6ea82e8..e5904a1 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h
>> @@ -2,13 +2,25 @@
>> #define __ASM_IRQ_H
>> 
>> #include <linux/irqchip/arm-gic-acpi.h>
>> +#include <asm/stacktrace.h>
>> 
>> #include <asm-generic/irq.h>
>> 
>> struct irq_stack {
>> 	void *stack;
>> +	struct stackframe frame;
>> };
>> 
>> +DECLARE_PER_CPU(struct irq_stack, irq_stacks);
> 
> Good idea, storing this in the per-cpu data makes it immune to stack
> corruption.
> 
> 
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c
>> index 407991b..5124649 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c
>> @@ -43,7 +43,27 @@ int notrace unwind_frame(struct stackframe *frame)
>> 	low  = frame->sp;
>> 	high = ALIGN(low, THREAD_SIZE);
>> 
>> -	if (fp < low || fp > high - 0x18 || fp & 0xf)
>> +	/*
>> +	 * A frame pointer would reach an upper bound if a prologue of the
>> +	 * first function of call trace looks as follows:
>> +	 *
>> +	 *	stp     x29, x30, [sp,#-16]!
>> +	 *	mov     x29, sp
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Thus, the upper bound is (top of stack - 0x20) with consideration
> 
> The terms 'top' and 'bottom' of the stack are confusing, your 'top' appears
> to be the highest address, which is used first, making it the bottom of the
> stack.
> 
> I would try to use the terms low/est and high/est, in keeping with the
> variable names in use here.

Good idea. I'm favor of those terms.

>> +	 * of a 16-byte empty space in THREAD_START_SP.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * The value, 0x20, however, does not cover all cases as interrupts
>> +	 * are handled using a separate stack. That is, a call trace can start
>> +	 * from elx_irq exception vectors. The symbols could not be promoted
>> +	 * to candidates for a stack trace under the restriction, 0x20.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * The scenario is handled without complexity as 1) considering
>> +	 * (bottom of stack + THREAD_START_SP) as a dummy frame pointer, the
>> +	 * content of which is 0, and 2) allowing the case, which changes
>> +	 * the value to 0x10 from 0x20.
> 
> Where has 0x20 come from? The old value was 0x18.

What I meant is 0x20 is the highest valid frame pointer. The comment should
have been described more clearly.

> My understanding is the highest part of the stack looks like this:
> high        [ off-stack ]
> high - 0x08 [ left free by THREAD_START_SP ]
> high - 0x10 [ left free by THREAD_START_SP ]
> high - 0x18 [#1 x30 ]
> high - 0x20 [#1 x29 ]

Clear description than mine!

> So the condition 'fp > high - 0x18' prevents returning either 'left free'
> address, or off-stack-value as a frame. Changing it to 'fp > high - 0x10'
> allows the first half of that reserved area to be a valid stack frame.

I believe my understanding is aligned with yours.

Under a current condition, 'fp > high - 0x18', it is impossible to catch the
'el1_irq' symbol. This is why I set x29 to high - 0x10 and changed the frame
pointer condition, but the changes fail to cover perf according to your data.

> This change is breaking perf using incantations [0] and [1]:

I'm reviewing how perf stack trace works..

> Before, with just patch 1/2:
>                  ---__do_softirq
>                     |
>                     |--92.95%-- __handle_domain_irq
>                     |          __irqentry_text_start
>                     |          el1_irq
>                     |
> 
> After, with both patches:
>                 ---__do_softirq
>                    |
>                    |--83.83%-- __handle_domain_irq
>                    |          __irqentry_text_start
>                    |          el1_irq
>                    |          |
>                    |          |--99.39%-- 0x400008040d00000c
>                    |           --0.61%-- [...]
>                    |
> 
> Changing the condition to 'fp >= high - 0x10' fixes this.

'fp >= high - 0x10' drops 'el1_irq' when dump_stack() or panic() is called.

> I agree it needs documenting, it is quite fiddly - I think Akashi Takahiro
> is the expert.

If possible, it would be greatly helpful.

> I think unwind_frame() needs to walk the irq stack too. [2] is an example
> of perf tracing back to userspace, (and there are patches on the list to
> do/fix this), so we need to walk back to the start of the first stack for
> the perf accounting to be correct.

Frankly, I missed the case where perf does backtrace to userspace.

IMO, this statement supports why the stack trace feature commit should be
written independently. The [1/2] patch would be pretty stable if 64KB page
is supported. The separation might help us concentrate on the stack trace
feature in a generic dump stack, perf, and ftrace point of view.

>> +	 */
>> +	if (fp < low || fp > high - 0x10 || fp & 0xf)
>> 		return -EINVAL;
>> 
>> 	frame->sp = fp + 0x10;
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c
>> index f93aae5..44b2f828 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c
>> @@ -146,6 +146,8 @@ static void dump_instr(const char *lvl, struct pt_regs *regs)
>> static void dump_backtrace(struct pt_regs *regs, struct task_struct *tsk)
>> {
>> 	struct stackframe frame;
>> +	unsigned int cpu = smp_processor_id();
> 
> I wonder if there is any case where dump_backtrace() is called on another cpu?
> 
> Setting the cpu value from task_thread_info(tsk)->cpu would protect against
> this.

IMO, no, but your suggestion makes sense. I will update it.

>> +	bool in_irq = in_irq_stack(cpu);
>> 
>> 	pr_debug("%s(regs = %p tsk = %p)\n", __func__, regs, tsk);
>> 
>> @@ -170,6 +172,10 @@ static void dump_backtrace(struct pt_regs *regs, struct task_struct *tsk)
>> 	}
>> 
>> 	pr_emerg("Call trace:\n");
>> +repeat:
>> +	if (in_irq)
>> +		pr_emerg("<IRQ>\n");
> 
> Do we need these? 'el1_irq()' in the trace is a giveaway…

I borrow this idea from x86 implementation in order to show a separate stack
explicitly. There is no issue to remove these tags, <IRQ> and <EOI>.

Great thanks!

Best Regards
Jungseok Lee

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From: jungseoklee85@gmail.com (Jungseok Lee)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: Expand the stack trace feature to support IRQ stack
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 23:53:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07A53E87-C562-48D1-86DF-A373EAAA73F9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5617CE26.10604@arm.com>

On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:24 PM, James Morse wrote:
> Hi Jungseok,

Hi James,

> On 07/10/15 16:28, Jungseok Lee wrote:
>> Currently, a call trace drops a process stack walk when a separate IRQ
>> stack is used. It makes a call trace information much less useful when
>> a system gets paniked in interrupt context.
> 
> panicked

I will fix the typo.

>> This patch addresses the issue with the following schemes:
>> 
>>  - Store aborted stack frame data
>>  - Decide whether another stack walk is needed or not via current sp
>>  - Loosen the frame pointer upper bound condition
> 
> It may be worth merging this patch with its predecessor - anyone trying to
> bisect a problem could land between these two patches, and spend time
> debugging the truncated call traces.

It was an original intention to lead them to this patch, not the [1/2] one.
This separation would help anyone touching the call trace feature including
me focus on these changes apart from stack allocation, IRQ recursion check
and thread_info management.

In addition, I would like to add a clear and sufficient explanation on the
frame pointer condition.

>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h
>> index 6ea82e8..e5904a1 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/irq.h
>> @@ -2,13 +2,25 @@
>> #define __ASM_IRQ_H
>> 
>> #include <linux/irqchip/arm-gic-acpi.h>
>> +#include <asm/stacktrace.h>
>> 
>> #include <asm-generic/irq.h>
>> 
>> struct irq_stack {
>> 	void *stack;
>> +	struct stackframe frame;
>> };
>> 
>> +DECLARE_PER_CPU(struct irq_stack, irq_stacks);
> 
> Good idea, storing this in the per-cpu data makes it immune to stack
> corruption.
> 
> 
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c
>> index 407991b..5124649 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/stacktrace.c
>> @@ -43,7 +43,27 @@ int notrace unwind_frame(struct stackframe *frame)
>> 	low  = frame->sp;
>> 	high = ALIGN(low, THREAD_SIZE);
>> 
>> -	if (fp < low || fp > high - 0x18 || fp & 0xf)
>> +	/*
>> +	 * A frame pointer would reach an upper bound if a prologue of the
>> +	 * first function of call trace looks as follows:
>> +	 *
>> +	 *	stp     x29, x30, [sp,#-16]!
>> +	 *	mov     x29, sp
>> +	 *
>> +	 * Thus, the upper bound is (top of stack - 0x20) with consideration
> 
> The terms 'top' and 'bottom' of the stack are confusing, your 'top' appears
> to be the highest address, which is used first, making it the bottom of the
> stack.
> 
> I would try to use the terms low/est and high/est, in keeping with the
> variable names in use here.

Good idea. I'm favor of those terms.

>> +	 * of a 16-byte empty space in THREAD_START_SP.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * The value, 0x20, however, does not cover all cases as interrupts
>> +	 * are handled using a separate stack. That is, a call trace can start
>> +	 * from elx_irq exception vectors. The symbols could not be promoted
>> +	 * to candidates for a stack trace under the restriction, 0x20.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * The scenario is handled without complexity as 1) considering
>> +	 * (bottom of stack + THREAD_START_SP) as a dummy frame pointer, the
>> +	 * content of which is 0, and 2) allowing the case, which changes
>> +	 * the value to 0x10 from 0x20.
> 
> Where has 0x20 come from? The old value was 0x18.

What I meant is 0x20 is the highest valid frame pointer. The comment should
have been described more clearly.

> My understanding is the highest part of the stack looks like this:
> high        [ off-stack ]
> high - 0x08 [ left free by THREAD_START_SP ]
> high - 0x10 [ left free by THREAD_START_SP ]
> high - 0x18 [#1 x30 ]
> high - 0x20 [#1 x29 ]

Clear description than mine!

> So the condition 'fp > high - 0x18' prevents returning either 'left free'
> address, or off-stack-value as a frame. Changing it to 'fp > high - 0x10'
> allows the first half of that reserved area to be a valid stack frame.

I believe my understanding is aligned with yours.

Under a current condition, 'fp > high - 0x18', it is impossible to catch the
'el1_irq' symbol. This is why I set x29 to high - 0x10 and changed the frame
pointer condition, but the changes fail to cover perf according to your data.

> This change is breaking perf using incantations [0] and [1]:

I'm reviewing how perf stack trace works..

> Before, with just patch 1/2:
>                  ---__do_softirq
>                     |
>                     |--92.95%-- __handle_domain_irq
>                     |          __irqentry_text_start
>                     |          el1_irq
>                     |
> 
> After, with both patches:
>                 ---__do_softirq
>                    |
>                    |--83.83%-- __handle_domain_irq
>                    |          __irqentry_text_start
>                    |          el1_irq
>                    |          |
>                    |          |--99.39%-- 0x400008040d00000c
>                    |           --0.61%-- [...]
>                    |
> 
> Changing the condition to 'fp >= high - 0x10' fixes this.

'fp >= high - 0x10' drops 'el1_irq' when dump_stack() or panic() is called.

> I agree it needs documenting, it is quite fiddly - I think Akashi Takahiro
> is the expert.

If possible, it would be greatly helpful.

> I think unwind_frame() needs to walk the irq stack too. [2] is an example
> of perf tracing back to userspace, (and there are patches on the list to
> do/fix this), so we need to walk back to the start of the first stack for
> the perf accounting to be correct.

Frankly, I missed the case where perf does backtrace to userspace.

IMO, this statement supports why the stack trace feature commit should be
written independently. The [1/2] patch would be pretty stable if 64KB page
is supported. The separation might help us concentrate on the stack trace
feature in a generic dump stack, perf, and ftrace point of view.

>> +	 */
>> +	if (fp < low || fp > high - 0x10 || fp & 0xf)
>> 		return -EINVAL;
>> 
>> 	frame->sp = fp + 0x10;
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c
>> index f93aae5..44b2f828 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/traps.c
>> @@ -146,6 +146,8 @@ static void dump_instr(const char *lvl, struct pt_regs *regs)
>> static void dump_backtrace(struct pt_regs *regs, struct task_struct *tsk)
>> {
>> 	struct stackframe frame;
>> +	unsigned int cpu = smp_processor_id();
> 
> I wonder if there is any case where dump_backtrace() is called on another cpu?
> 
> Setting the cpu value from task_thread_info(tsk)->cpu would protect against
> this.

IMO, no, but your suggestion makes sense. I will update it.

>> +	bool in_irq = in_irq_stack(cpu);
>> 
>> 	pr_debug("%s(regs = %p tsk = %p)\n", __func__, regs, tsk);
>> 
>> @@ -170,6 +172,10 @@ static void dump_backtrace(struct pt_regs *regs, struct task_struct *tsk)
>> 	}
>> 
>> 	pr_emerg("Call trace:\n");
>> +repeat:
>> +	if (in_irq)
>> +		pr_emerg("<IRQ>\n");
> 
> Do we need these? 'el1_irq()' in the trace is a giveaway?

I borrow this idea from x86 implementation in order to show a separate stack
explicitly. There is no issue to remove these tags, <IRQ> and <EOI>.

Great thanks!

Best Regards
Jungseok Lee

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-12 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-07 15:28 [PATCH v4 0/2] arm64: Introduce IRQ stack Jungseok Lee
2015-10-07 15:28 ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-07 15:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] " Jungseok Lee
2015-10-07 15:28   ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-08 10:25   ` Pratyush Anand
2015-10-08 10:25     ` Pratyush Anand
2015-10-08 14:32     ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-08 14:32       ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-08 16:51       ` Pratyush Anand
2015-10-08 16:51         ` Pratyush Anand
2015-10-07 15:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] arm64: Expand the stack trace feature to support " Jungseok Lee
2015-10-07 15:28   ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-09 14:24   ` James Morse
2015-10-09 14:24     ` James Morse
2015-10-12 14:53     ` Jungseok Lee [this message]
2015-10-12 14:53       ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-12 16:34       ` James Morse
2015-10-12 16:34         ` James Morse
2015-10-12 22:13         ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-12 22:13           ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-13 11:00           ` James Morse
2015-10-13 11:00             ` James Morse
2015-10-13 15:00             ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-13 15:00               ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-14 12:12               ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-14 12:12                 ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-15 15:59                 ` James Morse
2015-10-15 15:59                   ` James Morse
2015-10-16 13:01                   ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-16 13:01                     ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-16 16:06                     ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-16 16:06                       ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-17 13:38                       ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-17 13:38                         ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-19 16:18                         ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-19 16:18                           ` Catalin Marinas
2015-10-20 13:08                           ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-20 13:08                             ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-21 15:14                             ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-21 15:14                               ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-14  7:13     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2015-10-14  7:13       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2015-10-14 12:24       ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-14 12:24         ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-14 12:55         ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-14 12:55           ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-15  4:19           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2015-10-15  4:19             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2015-10-15 13:39             ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-15 13:39               ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-19  6:47               ` AKASHI Takahiro
2015-10-19  6:47                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2015-10-20 13:19                 ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-20 13:19                   ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-15 14:24     ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-15 14:24       ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-15 16:01       ` James Morse
2015-10-15 16:01         ` James Morse
2015-10-16 13:02         ` Jungseok Lee
2015-10-16 13:02           ` Jungseok Lee

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