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From: Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	Elijah Shakkour <elijahsh@mellanox.com>,
	Tal Attaly <talat@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] pcie: Add a simple PCIe ACS (Access Control Services) helper function
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:52:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10cc2d6bbc5a75ac6ca5ca1272ac8f5d4cd2fdc5.camel@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190212101423.341d4582@w520.home>

On Tue, 2019-02-12 at 10:14 -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:25:46 +0100
> Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2019-02-12 at 08:59 -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 09:07:43 +0100
> > > Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Mon, 2019-02-11 at 16:09 -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:  
> > > > > On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 07:52:59 +0100
> > > > > Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > > > Add a helper function to add PCIe capability for Access Control
> > > > > > Services
> > > > > > (ACS)
> > > > > > ACS support in the associated root port is a prerequisite to be able
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > passthrough of individual functions of a device with VFIO
> > > > > > without Alex Williamson's pcie_acs_override kernel patch or similar
> > > > > > in the guest.    
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is still incorrect, the ACS override patch is only required for
> > > > > separating multifunction endpoints or multifunction root
> > > > > ports.  Single
> > > > > function endpoints are assignable without ACS simply by placing them
> > > > > downstream of a single function root port or directly on the root
> > > > > complex.    
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm - that was the intended meaning of the comment, but I'll see if I
> > > > can
> > > > make
> > > > it more clear by saying it explicitly.  
> > > 
> > > "ACS support... is a prerequisite".  Prerequisite: a thing that is
> > > required as a prior condition for something else to happen or exist.
> > > 
> > > Assignment of individual functions exists today, as is, by using QEMU
> > > to define a PCIe topology that allows the desired grouping.  The code
> > > here enables specific topologies, it is clearly not a prerequisite.
> > >   
> > > > > > Endpoints may also implement an ACS capability, but with
> > > > > > limited features.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Knut Omang <knut.omang@oracle.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  hw/pci/pcie.c              | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  include/hw/pci/pcie.h      |  6 ++++++
> > > > > >  include/hw/pci/pcie_regs.h |  4 ++++
> > > > > >  3 files changed, 39 insertions(+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/hw/pci/pcie.c b/hw/pci/pcie.c
> > > > > > index 230478f..509632f 100644
> > > > > > --- a/hw/pci/pcie.c
> > > > > > +++ b/hw/pci/pcie.c
> > > > > > @@ -742,6 +742,14 @@ bool pcie_cap_is_arifwd_enabled(const PCIDevice
> > > > > > *dev)
> > > > > >          PCI_EXP_DEVCTL2_ARI;
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +/* Access Control Services (ACS) */
> > > > > > +void pcie_cap_acs_reset(PCIDevice *dev)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +    if (dev->exp.acs_cap) {
> > > > > > +        pci_set_word(dev->config + dev->exp.acs_cap + PCI_ACS_CTRL,
> > > > > > 0);
> > > > > > +    }
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  /******************************************************************
> > > > > > ****
> > > > > > ****
> > > > > >   * pci express extended capability list management functions
> > > > > >   * uint16_t ext_cap_id (16 bit)
> > > > > > @@ -906,3 +914,24 @@ void pcie_ats_init(PCIDevice *dev, uint16_t
> > > > > > offset)
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >      pci_set_word(dev->wmask + dev->exp.ats_cap + PCI_ATS_CTRL,
> > > > > > 0x800f);
> > > > > >  }
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/* ACS (Access Control Services) */
> > > > > > +void pcie_acs_init(PCIDevice *dev, uint16_t offset)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +    bool is_pcie_slot = !!object_dynamic_cast(OBJECT(dev),
> > > > > > TYPE_PCIE_SLOT);
> > > > > > +    uint16_t cap_bits = 0;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    pcie_add_capability(dev, PCI_EXT_CAP_ID_ACS, PCI_ACS_VER,
> > > > > > offset,
> > > > > > +                        PCI_ACS_SIZEOF);
> > > > > > +    dev->exp.acs_cap = offset;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    if (is_pcie_slot) {
> > > > > > +        /* Endpoints may also implement ACS, but these capabilities
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > */
> > > > > > +        /* only valid for slots: */    
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not quite, SV, TB, and UF must not be implemented by endpoints, but RR
> > > > > and CR must be implemented by multifunction endpoints that support p2p
> > > > > if they provide an ACS capability.      
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm - are you ok with setting 0 here as I have done, just amending your 
> > > > description to the comment? Then any future emulation that do support
> > > > p2p 
> > > > would have to set the needed bits after calling the init function.  
> > > 
> > > The comment definitely needs work, but I don't know what to do about
> > > single function, non-SR-IOV capable devices calling into this.    
> > 
> > I agree - I have only been thinking about multifunction devices, I should 
> > probably assert on not multifunction (or SR/IOV with my SR/IOV patch set) 
> > to avoid misuse.
> 
> Be sure to check both for (dev->cap_present &
> QEMU_PCI_CAP_MULTIFUNCTION) and PCI_FUNC(dev->devfn) since only
> function 0 is required to have the header bit set.

done thanks,

> > And what about someone passing a PF for SR/IOV through to a VM - 
> > Has that use case showed up (yet) ? 
> > I have so far only tested with my emulated SR/IOV.
> 
> The SR-IOV capability is masked to the L1 guest.  The issue is that an
> assigned SR-IOV PF could create VFs *on the host* which has security
> implications unless those VFs can be quarantined from general use by
> the host kernel.  There have been patches and proposals, but none yet
> that sufficiently address this issue.  Thanks,

Ah, yes, that makes sense.
It's getting late here, so will send v4 tomorrow..

Thanks!
Knut

> Alex
> 
> > > Per the
> > > spec, these devices cannot implement an ACS capability at all, but will
> > > anyone care if they do?  Maybe endpoints need a different init
> > > function.  Maybe the capability ID needs to be obscured until
> > > additional functions or an SR-IOV capability are added.  I'm not really
> > > concerned that this helper can only indicate lack of p2p between
> > > functions for endpoints, other than the comments being wrong.  
> > 
> > Ok, I think I am in the clear then with my v4 comment :-)
> > 
> > > > After your previous comments on this, I had a look at Mellanox CX4 and
> > > > CX5
> > > > which
> > > > are the only devices I could find in the lab that are endpoints and
> > > > implement an
> > > > ACS capability, and neither seems to implement any extra capabilities:
> > > > 
> > > >         Capabilities: [230 v1] Access Control Services
> > > >                 ACSCap: SrcValid- TransBlk- ReqRedir- CmpltRedir-
> > > > UpstreamFwd- EgressCtrl- DirectTrans-
> > > >                 ACSCtl: SrcValid- TransBlk- ReqRedir- CmpltRedir-
> > > > UpstreamFwd- EgressCtrl- DirectTrans-
> > > > 
> > > > that was the reason for my choice of value here - after skimming through
> > > > the
> > > > spec (with my still very limited understanding of the details)  
> > > 
> > > If the above device is a multifunction device or SR-IOV capable device,
> > > this is the correct way to indicate there is no p2p between functions.
> > > This takes advantage of the wording in the spec that certain
> > > capabilities must be implemented by functions that support p2p
> > > traffic.  Therefore if the capability is not implemented then p2p is
> > > not supported and requires no control.  
> > 
> > I see, that makes sense, and corresponds with the way the device I know
> > best 
> > worked.
> > 
> > > > > Linux therefore infers that if ACS
> > > > > is supported by an endpoint and RR and CR are not implemented, the
> > > > > device does not support p2p.      
> > > > 
> > > > Interesting - I thought the CX5 supported p2p, but I have not kept up
> > > > with
> > > > what
> > > > happens on the RDMA list on that front.  
> > > 
> > > ACS can only indicate p2p capabilities within the device reporting it.
> > > The above example indicates that the device does not do p2p internally
> > > between functions.  It does not preclude p2p between devices or even
> > > functions, but it does require that the p2p traffic occurs on the link
> > > and therefore allows routing to be managed through the ACS capabilities
> > > of the interconnect components.
> > > 
> > > For instance if we have a multifunction endpoint with the above
> > > capability, we know that a DMA from function 1 targeting an address
> > > range on function 0 will not complete the DMA internally, it will go
> > > through the egress port to the downstream port above the endpoint.  The
> > > ACS capability on that downstream port then controls whether that DMA
> > > request is redirected back to the ingress port of the endpoint or
> > > forwarded upstream.  If a redirect occurs here then the IOMMU is not
> > > fully in control of the IOVA space of the device and the IOMMU group is
> > > extended to indicate this.  
> > 
> > Thanks, this definitely clarifies!
> > 
> > > > > We could just say that nothing supports
> > > > > p2p yet, but single function endpoints (except those implementing
> > > > > SR-IOV) must not implement an ACS capability per the spec, which could
> > > > > be difficult to exclude since the multifunction bit is handled
> > > > > separately from the device model.    
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm - the older SR/IOV devices I know of, some Intel Ethernet devices
> > > > and
> > > > any of
> > > > the older Mellanox devices, and our own cancelled Infiniband device, all
> > > > seem
> > > > not to implement ACS?  
> > > 
> > > Linux effectively assumes that there is no p2p between VFs or between
> > > the PF and VF, so the result is that a multifunction endpoint without
> > > ACS supporting SR-IOV would have the PFs grouped together, but the VFs
> > > would be grouped individually, assuming the upstream topology provides
> > > isolation.  Intel has since provided verification that nearly none of
> > > their multi-port NICs implement internal p2p and they now use quirks to
> > > provide the ACS equivalent information for grouping for those older
> > > devices.  Newer Intel NICs implement ACS capabilities as in your
> > > example above to indicate this without the need for quirks.  Thanks,  
> > 
> > Yes, so for devices like the CX4 and CX5 which exposes more than one PF,
> > they need the ACS capability to indicate that individual PFs are isolated
> > from 
> > each other, while the single PF SR/IOV devices can do without.
> > 
> > Thanks for the excellent explanations, this makes it all much clearer!
> > Knut
> > 
> > > Alex
> > >   
> > > > > Also comment style:
> > > > > https://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=CODING_STYLE;#l127    
> > > > 
> > > > I see - will fix,
> > > >   
> > > > > > +        cap_bits =
> > > > > > +            PCI_ACS_SV | PCI_ACS_TB | PCI_ACS_RR | PCI_ACS_CR |
> > > > > > PCI_ACS_UF;
> > > > > > +    }
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    pci_set_word(dev->config + offset + PCI_ACS_CAP, cap_bits);
> > > > > > +    pci_set_word(dev->wmask + offset + PCI_ACS_CTRL, cap_bits);
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > > diff --git a/include/hw/pci/pcie.h b/include/hw/pci/pcie.h
> > > > > > index 5b82a0d..4c40711 100644
> > > > > > --- a/include/hw/pci/pcie.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/hw/pci/pcie.h
> > > > > > @@ -79,6 +79,9 @@ struct PCIExpressDevice {
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >      /* Offset of ATS capability in config space */
> > > > > >      uint16_t ats_cap;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +    /* ACS */
> > > > > > +    uint16_t acs_cap;
> > > > > >  };
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  #define COMPAT_PROP_PCP "power_controller_present"
> > > > > > @@ -116,6 +119,8 @@ void pcie_cap_flr_init(PCIDevice *dev);
> > > > > >  void pcie_cap_flr_write_config(PCIDevice *dev,
> > > > > >                             uint32_t addr, uint32_t val, int len);
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +void pcie_cap_acs_reset(PCIDevice *dev);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  /* ARI forwarding capability and control */
> > > > > >  void pcie_cap_arifwd_init(PCIDevice *dev);
> > > > > >  void pcie_cap_arifwd_reset(PCIDevice *dev);
> > > > > > @@ -129,6 +134,7 @@ void pcie_add_capability(PCIDevice *dev,
> > > > > >  void pcie_sync_bridge_lnk(PCIDevice *dev);
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  void pcie_ari_init(PCIDevice *dev, uint16_t offset, uint16_t
> > > > > > nextfn);
> > > > > > +void pcie_acs_init(PCIDevice *dev, uint16_t offset);    
> > > > > 
> > > > > nit, why aren't the reset and init declarations together?    
> > > > 
> > > > Good point, will fix.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Knut
> > > >   
> > > > > >  void pcie_dev_ser_num_init(PCIDevice *dev, uint16_t offset,
> > > > > > uint64_t
> > > > > > ser_num);
> > > > > >  void pcie_ats_init(PCIDevice *dev, uint16_t offset);
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > diff --git a/include/hw/pci/pcie_regs.h b/include/hw/pci/pcie_regs.h
> > > > > > index ad4e780..1db86b0 100644
> > > > > > --- a/include/hw/pci/pcie_regs.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/hw/pci/pcie_regs.h
> > > > > > @@ -175,4 +175,8 @@ typedef enum PCIExpLinkWidth {
> > > > > >                                           PCI_ERR_COR_INTERNAL
> > > > > > >         \
> > > > > >                                           PCI_ERR_COR_HL_OVERFLOW)
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > +/* ACS */
> > > > > > +#define PCI_ACS_VER                     0x1
> > > > > > +#define PCI_ACS_SIZEOF                  8
> > > > > > +
> > > > > >  #endif /* QEMU_PCIE_REGS_H */    

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-12 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-10  6:52 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/2] pcie: Add simple ACS "support" to the generic PCIe root port Knut Omang
2019-02-10  6:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/2] pcie: Add a simple PCIe ACS (Access Control Services) helper function Knut Omang
2019-02-11  8:05   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2019-02-11 23:09   ` Alex Williamson
2019-02-12  8:07     ` Knut Omang
2019-02-12  9:48       ` Knut Omang
2019-02-12 15:59       ` Alex Williamson
2019-02-12 16:25         ` Knut Omang
2019-02-12 17:14           ` Alex Williamson
2019-02-12 19:52             ` Knut Omang [this message]
2019-02-10  6:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/2] gen_pcie_root_port: Add ACS (Access Control Services) capability Knut Omang
2019-02-11  8:07   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2019-02-13  9:34     ` Knut Omang

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