* PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
@ 2005-05-28 11:13 Sean M. Burke
2005-05-28 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Sean M. Burke @ 2005-05-28 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel; +Cc: trivial
The English interjection "OK" is misspelled as "Ok" in a dozen
messages in the Linux kernel. The following patch corrects
those typos from "Ok" to "OK". It affects no comments or
symbol-names -- and it stops me wanting to gnaw my fingers off every
time I see "Ok, booting the kernel."!
("Okay" is an acceptable variant spelling of "OK". I chose "OK" over
"Okay" for sake of concision.)
(I also fix three incidental nearby typoes in
drivers/media/video/bttv-driver.c -- see at the end.)
Signed-off-by: Sean M. Burke <sburke@cpan.org>
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c linux-2.6.9/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c 2004-10-18 13:55:06.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/alpha/boot/bootp.c 2005-05-28 01:29:44.000000000 -0800
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@ pal_init(void)
(INIT_HWRPB->processor_offset + (unsigned long) INIT_HWRPB);
rev = percpu->pal_revision = percpu->palcode_avail[2];
- srm_printk("Ok (rev %lx)\n", rev);
+ srm_printk("OK (rev %lx)\n", rev);
tbia(); /* do it directly in case we are SMP */
}
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/alpha/boot/main.c linux-2.6.9/arch/alpha/boot/main.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/alpha/boot/main.c 2004-10-18 13:55:35.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/alpha/boot/main.c 2005-05-28 01:29:33.000000000 -0800
@@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ pal_init(void)
(INIT_HWRPB->processor_offset + (unsigned long) INIT_HWRPB);
rev = percpu->pal_revision = percpu->palcode_avail[2];
- srm_printk("Ok (rev %lx)\n", rev);
+ srm_printk("OK (rev %lx)\n", rev);
tbia(); /* do it directly in case we are SMP */
}
@@ -183,7 +183,7 @@ void start_kernel(void)
envval[nbytes] = '\0';
strcpy((char*)ZERO_PGE, envval);
- srm_printk(" Ok\nNow booting the kernel\n");
+ srm_printk(" OK\nNow booting the kernel\n");
runkernel();
for (i = 0 ; i < 0x100000000 ; i++)
/* nothing */;
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c linux-2.6.9/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-10-18 13:54:32.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2005-05-28 01:27:54.000000000 -0800
@@ -376,7 +376,7 @@ asmlinkage int decompress_kernel(struct
makecrc();
putstr("Uncompressing Linux... ");
gunzip();
- putstr("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
+ putstr("OK, booting the kernel.\n");
if (high_loaded) close_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
return high_loaded;
}
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/i386/mm/init.c linux-2.6.9/arch/i386/mm/init.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/i386/mm/init.c 2004-10-18 13:54:54.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/i386/mm/init.c 2005-05-28 02:14:18.000000000 -0800
@@ -541,7 +541,7 @@ void __init test_wp_bit(void)
panic("This kernel doesn't support CPU's with broken WP. Recompile it for a 386!");
#endif
} else {
- printk("Ok.\n");
+ printk("OK.\n");
}
}
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/m32r/boot/compressed/misc.c linux-2.6.9/arch/m32r/boot/compressed/misc.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/m32r/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-10-18 13:53:22.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/m32r/boot/compressed/misc.c 2005-05-28 01:29:03.000000000 -0800
@@ -218,6 +218,6 @@ long decompress_kernel(void)
makecrc();
puts("Uncompressing Linux... ");
gunzip();
- puts("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
+ puts("OK, booting the kernel.\n");
return bytes_out;
}
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/sh/boot/compressed/misc.c linux-2.6.9/arch/sh/boot/compressed/misc.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/sh/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-10-18 13:53:43.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/sh/boot/compressed/misc.c 2005-05-28 01:28:27.000000000 -0800
@@ -236,5 +236,5 @@ void decompress_kernel(void)
makecrc();
puts("Uncompressing Linux... ");
gunzip();
- puts("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
+ puts("OK, booting the kernel.\n");
}
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/sh64/boot/compressed/misc.c linux-2.6.9/arch/sh64/boot/compressed/misc.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/arch/sh64/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-10-18 13:53:45.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/arch/sh64/boot/compressed/misc.c 2005-05-28 01:28:42.000000000 -0800
@@ -245,7 +245,7 @@ void decompress_kernel(void)
}
#endif
- puts("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
+ puts("OK, booting the kernel.\n");
cache_control(CACHE_DISABLE);
}
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/drivers/base/power/shutdown.c linux-2.6.9/drivers/base/power/shutdown.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/drivers/base/power/shutdown.c 2004-10-18 13:54:37.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/drivers/base/power/shutdown.c 2005-05-28 01:34:58.000000000 -0800
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ void device_shutdown(void)
list_for_each_entry_reverse(dev, &devices_subsys.kset.list, kobj.entry) {
pr_debug("shutting down %s: ", dev->bus_id);
if (dev->driver && dev->driver->shutdown) {
- pr_debug("Ok\n");
+ pr_debug("OK\n");
dev->driver->shutdown(dev);
} else
pr_debug("Ignored.\n");
diff -uprN --exclude='*~*' linux-2.6.9.orig/drivers/media/video/bttv-driver.c linux-2.6.9/drivers/media/video/bttv-driver.c
--- linux-2.6.9.orig/drivers/media/video/bttv-driver.c 2004-10-18 13:54:54.000000000 -0800
+++ linux-2.6.9/drivers/media/video/bttv-driver.c 2005-05-28 01:32:39.000000000 -0800
@@ -3228,14 +3228,14 @@ static void bttv_irq_debug_low_latency(s
(unsigned long)rc);
if (0 == (btread(BT848_DSTATUS) & BT848_DSTATUS_HLOC)) {
- printk("bttv%d: Oh, there (temporarely?) is no input signal. "
- "Ok, then this is harmless, don't worry ;)\n",
+ printk("bttv%d: Oh, there (temporarily?) is no input signal. "
+ "OK, then this is harmless, don't worry ;)\n",
btv->c.nr);
return;
}
printk("bttv%d: Uhm. Looks like we have unusual high IRQ latencies.\n",
btv->c.nr);
- printk("bttv%d: Lets try to catch the culpit red-handed ...\n",
+ printk("bttv%d: Let's try to catch the culprit red-handed ...\n",
btv->c.nr);
dump_stack();
}
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 11:13 PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages Sean M. Burke
@ 2005-05-28 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-28 12:54 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-05-28 11:53 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-28 13:14 ` cutaway
2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: David Woodhouse @ 2005-05-28 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean M. Burke; +Cc: linux-kernel, trivial
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 03:13 -0800, Sean M. Burke wrote:
> The English interjection "OK" is misspelled as "Ok" in a dozen
> messages in the Linux kernel. The following patch corrects
> those typos from "Ok" to "OK". It affects no comments or
> symbol-names -- and it stops me wanting to gnaw my fingers off every
> time I see "Ok, booting the kernel."!
If you're going to do that, you might as well fix 'Uncompressing Linux'
to 'Decompressing Linux' too, and stop _me_ from being annoyed as well.
There's another error within the context of your patch too.
--
dwmw2
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 11:13 PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages Sean M. Burke
2005-05-28 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2005-05-28 11:53 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-28 12:12 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-05-28 13:14 ` cutaway
2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Måns Rullgård @ 2005-05-28 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
There are another couple of mistakes near your fixes.
> panic("This kernel doesn't support CPU's with broken WP. Recompile it for a 386!");
"CPU's" should be "CPUs", without the apostrophe.
> printk("bttv%d: Uhm. Looks like we have unusual high IRQ latencies.\n",
"unusually high" rings better in my ears.
--
Måns Rullgård
mru@inprovide.com
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 11:53 ` Måns Rullgård
@ 2005-05-28 12:12 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
2005-05-28 12:19 ` Måns Rullgård
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Matthias-Christian Ott @ 2005-05-28 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Måns Rullgård; +Cc: linux-kernel
Måns Rullgård wrote:
> [..]
> "unusually high" rings better in my ears.
It's an adjective not an adverb.
Matthias-Christian Ott
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 12:12 ` Matthias-Christian Ott
@ 2005-05-28 12:19 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-28 16:08 ` Alistair John Strachan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Måns Rullgård @ 2005-05-28 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias-Christian Ott; +Cc: linux-kernel
Matthias-Christian Ott <matthias.christian@tiscali.de> writes:
> Måns Rullgård wrote:
>> [..]
>> "unusually high" rings better in my ears.
> It's an adjective not an adverb.
It depends on how the sentence should be interpreted. Is it "unusual
(high IRQ latencies)", or "(unusually high) IRQ latencies"?
--
Måns Rullgård
mru@inprovide.com
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 13:14 ` cutaway
@ 2005-05-28 12:29 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-28 21:02 ` Lee Revell
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Måns Rullgård @ 2005-05-28 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
<cutaway@bellsouth.net> writes:
> "Sean M. Burke" <sburke@cpan.org> wrote:
>
>> The English interjection "OK" is misspelled as "Ok" in a dozen
>> messages in the Linux kernel. The following patch corrects
>> those typos from "Ok" to "OK". It affects no comments or
>> symbol-names -- and it stops me wanting to gnaw my fingers off every
>> time I see "Ok, booting the kernel."!
>
> That's not the most annoying IMO - see how many instances of something like
> this you'll sprinkled around:
>
> printk("The PukeMaster is %sabled.\n", SomeFlag ? "dis" : "en");
>
> If a NLS translator isn't a C programmer, they'll screw it up frequently.
That's true, but the Linux kernel isn't subject to NLS translations.
--
Måns Rullgård
mru@inprovide.com
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
@ 2005-05-28 12:54 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-06-23 16:30 ` Tim Bird
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Pozsár Balázs @ 2005-05-28 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Woodhouse; +Cc: Sean M. Burke, linux-kernel, trivial
On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 12:29:52PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 03:13 -0800, Sean M. Burke wrote:
> > The English interjection "OK" is misspelled as "Ok" in a dozen
> > messages in the Linux kernel. The following patch corrects
> > those typos from "Ok" to "OK". It affects no comments or
> > symbol-names -- and it stops me wanting to gnaw my fingers off every
> > time I see "Ok, booting the kernel."!
>
> If you're going to do that, you might as well fix 'Uncompressing Linux'
> to 'Decompressing Linux' too, and stop _me_ from being annoyed as well.
While we are at it, what about changing this string to something
language-neutral, like this:
diff -Naurdp a/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c b/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c
--- a/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-04-04 05:37:23.000000000 +0200
+++ b/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-05-09 23:18:06.000000000 +0200
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
*/
#include <linux/linkage.h>
+#include <linux/version.h>
#include <linux/vmalloc.h>
#include <linux/tty.h>
#include <video/edid.h>
@@ -373,9 +374,9 @@ asmlinkage int decompress_kernel(struct
else setup_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
makecrc();
- putstr("Uncompressing Linux... ");
+ putstr("Linux " UTS_RELEASE);
gunzip();
- putstr("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
+ putstr("\n");
if (high_loaded) close_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
return high_loaded;
}
--
pozsy
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 11:13 PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages Sean M. Burke
2005-05-28 11:29 ` David Woodhouse
2005-05-28 11:53 ` Måns Rullgård
@ 2005-05-28 13:14 ` cutaway
2005-05-28 12:29 ` Måns Rullgård
2005-05-28 21:02 ` Lee Revell
2 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: cutaway @ 2005-05-28 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean M. Burke, linux-kernel; +Cc: trivial
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean M. Burke" <sburke@cpan.org>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <trivial@rustcorp.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 07:13
Subject: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
> The English interjection "OK" is misspelled as "Ok" in a dozen
> messages in the Linux kernel. The following patch corrects
> those typos from "Ok" to "OK". It affects no comments or
> symbol-names -- and it stops me wanting to gnaw my fingers off every
> time I see "Ok, booting the kernel."!
That's not the most annoying IMO - see how many instances of something like
this you'll sprinkled around:
printk("The PukeMaster is %sabled.\n", SomeFlag ? "dis" : "en");
If a NLS translator isn't a C programmer, they'll screw it up frequently.
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 12:19 ` Måns Rullgård
@ 2005-05-28 16:08 ` Alistair John Strachan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alistair John Strachan @ 2005-05-28 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Måns Rullgård, linux-kernel, Matthias-Christian Ott
On Saturday 28 May 2005 13:19, you wrote:
> Matthias-Christian Ott <matthias.christian@tiscali.de> writes:
> > Måns Rullgård wrote:
> >> [..]
> >> "unusually high" rings better in my ears.
> >
> > It's an adjective not an adverb.
>
> It depends on how the sentence should be interpreted. Is it "unusual
> (high IRQ latencies)", or "(unusually high) IRQ latencies"?
You're right, it's "(unusually high) IRQ latencies". What we have now is
grammatically incorrect.
--
Cheers,
Alistair.
personal: alistair()devzero!co!uk
university: s0348365()sms!ed!ac!uk
student: CS/CSim Undergraduate
contact: 1F2 55 South Clerk Street,
Edinburgh. EH8 9PP.
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 13:14 ` cutaway
2005-05-28 12:29 ` Måns Rullgård
@ 2005-05-28 21:02 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-29 3:04 ` cutaway
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Lee Revell @ 2005-05-28 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cutaway; +Cc: Sean M. Burke, linux-kernel, trivial
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 09:14 -0400, cutaway@bellsouth.net wrote:
> printk("The PukeMaster is %sabled.\n", SomeFlag ? "dis" : "en");
>
> If a NLS translator isn't a C programmer, they'll screw it up frequently.
Then you need a better translator.
Lee
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 21:02 ` Lee Revell
@ 2005-05-29 3:04 ` cutaway
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: cutaway @ 2005-05-29 3:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lee Revell; +Cc: Sean M. Burke, linux-kernel, trivial
Worked many large scale multiple languages translation projects? I have.
You take what you can get and make it as easy on them as possible to
minimize your own grief.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Revell" <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: <cutaway@bellsouth.net>
Cc: "Sean M. Burke" <sburke@cpan.org>; <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>;
<trivial@rustcorp.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 17:02
Subject: Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 09:14 -0400, cutaway@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > printk("The PukeMaster is %sabled.\n", SomeFlag ? "dis" : "en");
> >
> > If a NLS translator isn't a C programmer, they'll screw it up
frequently.
>
> Then you need a better translator.
>
> Lee
>
>
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-05-28 12:54 ` Pozsár Balázs
@ 2005-06-23 16:30 ` Tim Bird
2005-06-23 16:53 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-06-23 23:33 ` Alan Cox
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tim Bird @ 2005-06-23 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel; +Cc: David Woodhouse, Sean M. Burke, trivial
� wrote:
>> While we are at it, what about changing this string to something
>> language-neutral, like this:
>>
>> diff -Naurdp a/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c b/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c
>> --- a/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-04-04 05:37:23.000000000 +0200
>> +++ b/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-05-09 23:18:06.000000000 +0200
>> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
>> */
>>
>> #include <linux/linkage.h>
>> +#include <linux/version.h>
>> #include <linux/vmalloc.h>
>> #include <linux/tty.h>
>> #include <video/edid.h>
>> @@ -373,9 +374,9 @@ asmlinkage int decompress_kernel(struct
>> else setup_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
>>
>> makecrc();
>> - putstr("Uncompressing Linux... ");
>> + putstr("Linux " UTS_RELEASE);
>> gunzip();
>> - putstr("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
>> + putstr("\n");
>> if (high_loaded) close_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
>> return high_loaded;
>> }
Language neutrality is not a goal for kernel messages,
that I'm aware of. I disagree with this change because
it yields a net reduction in understanding what's going
on during booting.
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics
=============================
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-06-23 16:30 ` Tim Bird
@ 2005-06-23 16:53 ` Pozsár Balázs
2005-06-23 18:32 ` Tim Bird
2005-06-23 23:33 ` Alan Cox
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Pozsár Balázs @ 2005-06-23 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim Bird; +Cc: linux-kernel, David Woodhouse, Sean M. Burke, trivial
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 09:30:41AM -0700, Tim Bird wrote:
> >> While we are at it, what about changing this string to something
> >> language-neutral, like this:
> >>
> >> diff -Naurdp a/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c b/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c
> >> --- a/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-04-04 05:37:23.000000000 +0200
> >> +++ b/arch/i386/boot/compressed/misc.c 2004-05-09 23:18:06.000000000 +0200
> >> @@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
> >> */
> >>
> >> #include <linux/linkage.h>
> >> +#include <linux/version.h>
> >> #include <linux/vmalloc.h>
> >> #include <linux/tty.h>
> >> #include <video/edid.h>
> >> @@ -373,9 +374,9 @@ asmlinkage int decompress_kernel(struct
> >> else setup_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
> >>
> >> makecrc();
> >> - putstr("Uncompressing Linux... ");
> >> + putstr("Linux " UTS_RELEASE);
> >> gunzip();
> >> - putstr("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
> >> + putstr("\n");
> >> if (high_loaded) close_output_buffer_if_we_run_high(mv);
> >> return high_loaded;
> >> }
>
>
> Language neutrality is not a goal for kernel messages,
> that I'm aware of.
Of course this is true, but I think this very one is an exception: this
is the only one seen when booting with the "quiet" kernel option or
using some shiny bootlogo patches, both of which is common practice
among distribution-shipped kernels.
> I disagree with this change because
> it yields a net reduction in understanding what's going
> on during booting.
No, it does not yields any reduction. Only the strings itself are
changed, not the time they are printed.
Besides, nobody is interested that actually an uncompress step is in
progress, that just works. And, btw if it fails (the gunzip), it prints
an error message anyway iirc.
--
pozsy
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* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-06-23 16:53 ` Pozsár Balázs
@ 2005-06-23 18:32 ` Tim Bird
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Tim Bird @ 2005-06-23 18:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: �; +Cc: linux-kernel, David Woodhouse, Sean M. Burke, trivial
> >>- putstr("Uncompressing Linux... ");
> >> + putstr("Linux " UTS_RELEASE);
> >> gunzip();
> >> - putstr("Ok, booting the kernel.\n");
> >> + putstr("\n");
> >>
� wrote:
>>Language neutrality is not a goal for kernel messages,
>>that I'm aware of.
>
> Of course this is true, but I think this very one is an exception: this
> is the only one seen when booting with the "quiet" kernel option or
> using some shiny bootlogo patches, both of which is common practice
> among distribution-shipped kernels.
>
OK, I understand why this one might worth different
consideration.
>
>>I disagree with this change because
>>it yields a net reduction in understanding what's going
>>on during booting.
>
> No, it does not yields any reduction. Only the strings itself are
> changed, not the time they are printed.
This is only true if the words themselves have no meaning or utility.
They do.
> Besides, nobody is interested that actually an uncompress step is in
> progress, that just works.
This is not true, a developer working on a new board support package
cares whether we're in the decompress step or in the kernel booting step.
New developers unfamiliar with the kernel booting sequence will have
to find out where this message is coming from, when things fail.
Without a unique string to search for, this becomes quite difficult
to find.
In my field, I work with a LOT of developers who are not deeply
familiar with the kernel, but still face these bootup messages.
> And, btw if it fails (the gunzip), it prints
> an error message anyway iirc.
I'm not sure what happens on gunzip failure, but
I see kernel boot failures quite often during
board bringup, and it's nice to know if you've
passed the decompression phase, etc. The messages
you propose are much less instructive for the
developer.
However, I will grant that we're not trying to
optimize for the developer, but rather should
be optimizing for the user. But if we can
do something that is suitable to both, I would
prefer it. Could we put just a little more
wording back in?
-- Tim
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics
=============================
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: "Ok" -> "OK" in messages
2005-06-23 16:30 ` Tim Bird
2005-06-23 16:53 ` Pozsár Balázs
@ 2005-06-23 23:33 ` Alan Cox
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2005-06-23 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tim Bird
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List, David Woodhouse, Sean M. Burke, trivial
On Iau, 2005-06-23 at 17:30, Tim Bird wrote:
> Language neutrality is not a goal for kernel messages,
> that I'm aware of. I disagree with this change because
> it yields a net reduction in understanding what's going
> on during booting.
Just change the "Uncompressing" to "Decompressing". The other proposal
of including the version is a good one as is correcting the "Ok".
Whatever occurs porting the code into English can only be a good thing.
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