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From: Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>
To: Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Cc: cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, oprofile-list@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Cbe-oss-dev] [RFC, PATCH] CELL Oprofile SPU profiling updated patch
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:38:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171298315.5204.235.camel@dyn9047021078.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fdeac69371a6b75fbf0ebffd30228106@bga.com>

On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 16:46 -0600, Milton Miller wrote:

[cut]

> 
> As far as I understand, you are providing access to a completely new
> hardware that is related to the PMU hardware by the fact that it
> collects a program counter.   It doesn't use the PMU counters nor the
> PMU event selection.
> 
> In fact, why can the existing op_model_cell profiling not run while
> the SPU profiling runs?   Is there a shared debug bus inside the
> chip?   Or just the data stream with your buffer_sync code?
> 

There are two reasons you cannot do SPU profiling and profiling on non
SPU events at the sametime.  1) the SPU PC values are routed on the
debug bus.  You cannot also route the signals for other non SPU events
on the debug bus since they will conflict.  Specifically, the signals
would get logically OR'd on the bus.  The exception is PPU cycles which
does not use the debug bus.  2) the hardware that captures the SPU
program counters has some shared components with the HW performance
counters.  To use the SPU program counter hardware, the performance
counter hardware must be disabled.

In summary, we cannot do SPU cycle profiling and non SPU event profiling
at the same time due to limitations in the hardware.


[cut]


> milton
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Carl Love <cel@us.ibm.com>
To: Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, oprofile-list@lists.sourceforge.net,
	cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Cbe-oss-dev] [RFC, PATCH] CELL Oprofile SPU profiling updated patch
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:38:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171298315.5204.235.camel@dyn9047021078.beaverton.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fdeac69371a6b75fbf0ebffd30228106@bga.com>

On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 16:46 -0600, Milton Miller wrote:

[cut]

> 
> As far as I understand, you are providing access to a completely new
> hardware that is related to the PMU hardware by the fact that it
> collects a program counter.   It doesn't use the PMU counters nor the
> PMU event selection.
> 
> In fact, why can the existing op_model_cell profiling not run while
> the SPU profiling runs?   Is there a shared debug bus inside the
> chip?   Or just the data stream with your buffer_sync code?
> 

There are two reasons you cannot do SPU profiling and profiling on non
SPU events at the sametime.  1) the SPU PC values are routed on the
debug bus.  You cannot also route the signals for other non SPU events
on the debug bus since they will conflict.  Specifically, the signals
would get logically OR'd on the bus.  The exception is PPU cycles which
does not use the debug bus.  2) the hardware that captures the SPU
program counters has some shared components with the HW performance
counters.  To use the SPU program counter hardware, the performance
counter hardware must be disabled.

In summary, we cannot do SPU cycle profiling and non SPU event profiling
at the same time due to limitations in the hardware.


[cut]


> milton
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-12 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-06  0:28 [RFC,PATCH] CELL PPU Oprofile SPU profiling updated patch Carl Love
2007-02-06  0:46 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-06  0:46   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-06  0:49 ` [Cbe-oss-dev] [RFC, PATCH] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-06  0:49   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-02-06 23:02 ` [Cbe-oss-dev] [RFC, PATCH] CELL " Carl Love
2007-02-06 23:02   ` Carl Love
2007-02-07 15:41   ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-07 15:41     ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-07 22:48     ` Michael Ellerman
2007-02-07 22:48       ` Michael Ellerman
2007-02-08 15:03       ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-08 15:03         ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-08 14:18   ` Milton Miller
2007-02-08 14:18     ` Milton Miller
2007-02-08 17:21     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-08 17:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-08 18:01       ` Adrian Reber
2007-02-08 18:01         ` Adrian Reber
2007-02-08 22:51       ` Carl Love
2007-02-08 22:51         ` Carl Love
2007-02-09  2:46         ` Milton Miller
2007-02-09  2:46           ` Milton Miller
2007-02-09 16:17           ` Carl Love
2007-02-09 16:17             ` Carl Love
2007-02-11 22:46             ` Milton Miller
2007-02-11 22:46               ` Milton Miller
2007-02-12 16:38               ` Carl Love [this message]
2007-02-12 16:38                 ` Carl Love
2007-02-09 18:47       ` Milton Miller
2007-02-09 18:47         ` Milton Miller
2007-02-09 19:10         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-09 19:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-09 19:46           ` Milton Miller
2007-02-09 19:46             ` Milton Miller
2007-02-08 23:59     ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-08 23:59       ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-09 18:03       ` Milton Miller
2007-02-09 18:03         ` Milton Miller
2007-02-14 23:52 Carl Love
2007-02-15 14:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-15 14:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-15 16:15   ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-15 16:15     ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-15 18:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-15 18:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-15 20:21   ` Carl Love
2007-02-15 20:21     ` Carl Love
2007-02-15 21:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-15 21:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-15 21:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-15 21:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-16  0:33       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-16  0:33         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-16  0:32   ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-16  0:32     ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-16 17:14     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-16 17:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-16 21:43       ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-16 21:43         ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-18 23:18         ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-18 23:18           ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-22  0:02 Carl Love
2007-02-26 23:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-26 23:50   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-27  1:31   ` Michael Ellerman
2007-02-27  1:31     ` Michael Ellerman
2007-02-27 16:52   ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-27 16:52     ` Maynard Johnson
2007-02-28  1:44     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-28  1:44       ` Arnd Bergmann

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