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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>, JAndi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:05:42 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171688742.18876.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D626BB.20007@vmware.com>

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 13:48 -0800, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > It still seems to be implemented for Xen and not to support a variety of 
> > page table methods in paravirt ops.
> 
> Yes, but that is just because the Xen hooks happens to be near the last 
> part of the merge.  VMI required some special hooks, as do both Xen and 
> lhype (I think ... Rusty can correct me if lhype's puppy's have 
> precluded the addition of new hooks).

lguest was supposed to be a demonstration of paravirt_ops, so it
shouldn't have added any.  But note that I did change some other things,
such as the esp0 initialization for the swapper.

Puppies are still alive and well.  Although Andi not pushing into 2.6.21
(yet?) made puppies sad 8(

>   Xen page table handling is very 
> different, mostly it is trap and emulate so writable page tables can 
> work, which means they don't always issue hypercalls for PTE updates, 
> although they do have that option, should the hypervisor MMU model 
> change, or performance concerns prompt a different model (or perhaps, 
> migration?)

Yes, Xen really like their direct pagetable stuff.  I'm a
traditionalist, myself, but it did require some expansion of
paravirt_ops.

KVM might well want more, although from here it's more likely we'll move
some of the hooks up the stack a little IMHO.

Cheers,
Rusty.





WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	JAndi Kleen <ak@muc.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 16:05:42 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1171688742.18876.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45D626BB.20007@vmware.com>

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 13:48 -0800, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > It still seems to be implemented for Xen and not to support a variety of 
> > page table methods in paravirt ops.
> 
> Yes, but that is just because the Xen hooks happens to be near the last 
> part of the merge.  VMI required some special hooks, as do both Xen and 
> lhype (I think ... Rusty can correct me if lhype's puppy's have 
> precluded the addition of new hooks).

lguest was supposed to be a demonstration of paravirt_ops, so it
shouldn't have added any.  But note that I did change some other things,
such as the esp0 initialization for the swapper.

Puppies are still alive and well.  Although Andi not pushing into 2.6.21
(yet?) made puppies sad 8(

>   Xen page table handling is very 
> different, mostly it is trap and emulate so writable page tables can 
> work, which means they don't always issue hypercalls for PTE updates, 
> although they do have that option, should the hypervisor MMU model 
> change, or performance concerns prompt a different model (or perhaps, 
> migration?)

Yes, Xen really like their direct pagetable stuff.  I'm a
traditionalist, myself, but it did require some expansion of
paravirt_ops.

KVM might well want more, although from here it's more likely we'll move
some of the hooks up the stack a little IMHO.

Cheers,
Rusty.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-17  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 194+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-16  2:24 [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 01/21] Xen-paravirt: Fix typo in sync_constant_test_bit()s name Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 02/21] Xen-paravirt: ignore vgacon if hardware not present Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 03/21] Xen-paravirt: Add pagetable accessors to pack and unpack pagetable entries Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 04/21] Xen-paravirt: =================================================================== Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  9:12   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16  9:12     ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 17:32     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:32       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 05/21] Xen-paravirt: paravirt_ops: hooks to set up initial pagetable Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 06/21] Xen-paravirt: paravirt_ops: allocate a fixmap slot Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 07/21] Xen-paravirt: remove ctor for pgd cache Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:04   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  6:04     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  8:39   ` Pekka Enberg
2007-02-16  9:19     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16 17:19       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:19         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 20:33   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 23:33     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 23:33       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 08/21] Xen-paravirt: Allow paravirt backend to choose kernel PMD sharing Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 09/21] Xen-paravirt: Allow paravirt backend to select PGD allocation alignment Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24 ` [patch 10/21] Xen-paravirt: add hooks to intercept mm creation and destruction Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:24   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:34     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:55     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:55       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:16   ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-22 20:21     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:21       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:23     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-22 20:23       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 11/21] Xen-paravirt: Add apply_to_page_range() which applies a function to a pte range Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:37     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:06     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:06       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:19         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:23         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:23           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:31     ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  7:31       ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 12/21] Xen-paravirt: Allocate and free vmalloc areas Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:43   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:43     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:08     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:08       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:24       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:24         ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:30         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:30           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:49           ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:49             ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  9:18           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16  9:18             ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 11:10             ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 11:10               ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 11:34               ` [Xen-devel] " Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 11:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-16 11:10             ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 11:10             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 16:46             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 16:46               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:10               ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:10                 ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:12                 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:12                 ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:12                   ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:27                   ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:27                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 19:06                     ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:06                     ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:06                     ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:06                       ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:19                       ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:19                         ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 19:26                         ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 19:26                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 23:29                           ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 23:29                             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 23:41                             ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 23:41                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 17:12                 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:26                 ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-02-16 17:26                   ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-02-16 17:10               ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 17:10               ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16  7:48         ` Nick Piggin
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 13/21] Xen-paravirt: Add nosegneg capability to the vsyscall page notes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:06   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  6:06     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 14/21] Xen-paravirt: Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:14   ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16  7:04     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:04       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:52       ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16  8:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  8:05           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  8:37           ` Dan Hecht
2007-02-16 10:49             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:49             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:49             ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:49               ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16  7:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:06       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:25       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:25         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 10:09         ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:09           ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:19           ` [Xen-devel] " Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 10:19             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 10:44             ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:44               ` Keir Fraser
2007-02-16 10:55               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 10:55                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-17  4:04             ` [Xen-devel] " Rusty Russell
2007-02-17  4:04               ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-16  6:15   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  6:15     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  7:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  7:33       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:14       ` Ian Campbell
2007-02-16  8:14         ` Ian Campbell
2007-02-16  8:24         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-16  8:31           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16  8:31             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 13:53       ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2007-02-16 13:53         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-02-18 11:32     ` Avi Kivity
2007-02-18 11:32       ` Avi Kivity
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 15/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen interface header files Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 16/21] Xen-paravirt: Core Xen implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 17/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xen virtual console driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:48   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:48     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 18/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen grant table support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:52     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:58     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:58       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 19/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xenbus sysfs and virtual device hotplug driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 20/21] Xen-paravirt: Add Xen virtual block device driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25 ` [patch 21/21] Xen-paravirt: Add the Xen virtual network " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  2:25   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  6:59 ` [patch 00/21] Xen-paravirt: Xen guest implementation for paravirt_ops interface Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  6:59   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-16  7:20   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16  7:20     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:04   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:04     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:48       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:48         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-16 21:59         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 21:59           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-16 22:10           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-17 13:51           ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-17 13:51             ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-21 18:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-02-21 18:55               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-21 18:55                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-02-21 20:02               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-21 20:02                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-17  5:05         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2007-02-17  5:05           ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-16 23:49   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-16 23:49     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-02-17  4:58   ` Rusty Russell
2007-02-17  4:58     ` Rusty Russell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-13 22:17 Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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