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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: eric.dumazet@gmail.com, therbert@google.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, robert@herjulf.net, xiaosuo@gmail.com,
	andi@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: rps perfomance WAS(Re: rps: question
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:55:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271332528.4567.150.camel@bigi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100415.014857.168270765.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 01:48 -0700, David Miller wrote:

> A single-queue NIC is actually not a requirement, 
> RPS helps also in cases where you have 'N' application threads 
> and N is less than the number of CPUs your multi-queue NIC is 
> distributing traffic to.

sure..

> Moving the bulk of the input packet processing to the cpus where
> the applications actually sit had a non-trivial benefit.  

This is true regardless of rps though. 

> RFS takes this aspect to yet another level.

rfs looks quiet interesting;-> I think with some twist it could be
used with multiqueue nics as well

> I think for the case where application locality is important,
> RPS/RFS can help regardless of cache details.

Generally true, as long as there's not much shared data across the cpus
or the cost of a cache miss is reasonably tolerable. The socket layer
just happens to be not sharing much with ingress packet path and
for a single processor Nehalem, the caching system works so well that
the cost of cache misses is not as an important a variable. Everything
is on the same die including the MM controller etc.
I am speculating (didnt get any answer to the question i asked) that
people running rps use such hardware;->

I speculate again that it may be too costly to run rps on something like
a tigerton or intel clovertown where you have cores sharing/contending
for an FSB. If I can get answers to the question: "What h/ware are
people running?" i could be proven wrong.
[Note: I am not against RPS - i think it has its place; so i hope my
desire to find out when to use rps doesnt show as hostility towards
rps.]

cheers,
jamal


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-15 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-07 18:42 rps: question jamal
2010-02-08  5:58 ` Tom Herbert
2010-02-08 15:09   ` jamal
2010-04-14 11:53     ` rps perfomance WAS(Re: " jamal
2010-04-14 17:31       ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-14 18:04         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-14 18:53           ` jamal
2010-04-14 19:44             ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-14 19:58               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-15  8:51                 ` David Miller
2010-04-14 20:22               ` jamal
2010-04-14 20:27                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-14 20:38                   ` jamal
2010-04-14 20:45                   ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-14 20:57                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-14 22:51                       ` Changli Gao
2010-04-14 23:02                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-15  2:40                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-15  2:50                             ` Changli Gao
2010-04-15  8:57                       ` David Miller
2010-04-15 12:10                       ` jamal
2010-04-15 12:32                         ` Changli Gao
2010-04-15 12:50                           ` jamal
2010-04-15 23:51                             ` Changli Gao
2010-04-15  8:51                 ` David Miller
2010-04-14 20:34               ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  8:50               ` David Miller
2010-04-15  8:48             ` David Miller
2010-04-15 11:55               ` jamal [this message]
2010-04-15 16:41                 ` Rick Jones
2010-04-15 20:16                   ` jamal
2010-04-15 20:25                     ` Rick Jones
2010-04-15 23:56                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16  5:18                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16  6:02                         ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16  6:28                           ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-16  6:32                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 13:42                             ` jamal
2010-04-16  7:15                           ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 13:27                             ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:37                               ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 13:58                                 ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:21                         ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:34                           ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16 13:49                             ` jamal
2010-04-16 14:10                               ` Changli Gao
2010-04-16 14:43                                 ` jamal
2010-04-16 14:58                                   ` Changli Gao
2010-04-19 12:48                                     ` jamal
2010-04-17  7:35                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17  8:43                             ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-17  9:23                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 14:27                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 17:26                                   ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-17 14:17                               ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: remove time limit in process_backlog() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-18  9:36                                 ` David Miller
2010-04-17 17:31                             ` rps perfomance WAS(Re: rps: question jamal
2010-04-18  9:39                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-18 11:34                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19  2:09                                   ` jamal
2010-04-19  9:37                                   ` [RFC] rps: shortcut net_rps_action() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19  9:48                                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-19 12:14                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 12:28                                         ` Changli Gao
2010-04-19 13:27                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 14:22                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 15:07                                               ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] " Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 16:02                                                 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-19 20:21                                                 ` David Miller
2010-04-20  7:17                                                   ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: cleanups Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20  8:18                                                     ` David Miller
2010-04-19 23:56                                                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: shortcut net_rps_action() Changli Gao
2010-04-20  0:32                                                   ` Changli Gao
2010-04-20  5:55                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 12:02                                   ` rps perfomance WAS(Re: rps: question jamal
2010-04-20 13:13                                     ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                                       ` <1271853570.4032.21.camel@bigi>
2010-04-21 19:01                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-22  1:27                                           ` Changli Gao
2010-04-22 12:12                                           ` jamal
2010-04-25  2:31                                             ` Changli Gao
2010-04-26 11:35                                               ` jamal
2010-04-26 13:35                                                 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-21 21:53                                         ` Rick Jones
2010-04-16 15:57             ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-14 18:53       ` Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-15  8:42       ` David Miller

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