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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust-41N18TsMXrtuMpJDpNschA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	fengguang.wu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:43:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282246999.7799.66.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819151618.5f769dc9-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:58:25 -0400
> Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust-41N18TsMXrtuMpJDpNschA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 10:37 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:15:25AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > I'm looking at backporting some upstream changes to earlier kernels,
> > > > and ran across something I don't quite understand...
> > > > 
> > > > In nfs_commit_unstable_pages, we set the flags to FLUSH_SYNC. We then
> > > > zero out the flags if wbc->nonblocking or wbc->for_background is set.
> > > > 
> > > > Shouldn't we also clear it out if wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE ?
> > > > WB_SYNC_NONE means "don't wait on anything", so shouldn't that include
> > > > not waiting on the COMMIT to complete?
> > > 
> > > I've been trying to figure out what the nonblocking flag is supposed
> > > to mean for a while now.
> > > 
> > > It basically disappeared in commit 0d99519efef15fd0cf84a849492c7b1deee1e4b7
> > > 
> > > 	"writeback: remove unused nonblocking and congestion checks"
> > > 
> > > from Wu.  What's left these days is a couple of places in local copies
> > > of write_cache_pages (afs, cifs), and a couple of checks in random
> > > writepages instances (afs, block_write_full_page, ceph, nfs, reiserfs, xfs)
> > > and the use in nfs_write_inode.  It's only actually set for memory
> > > migration and pageout, that is VM writeback.
> > > 
> > > To me it really doesn't make much sense, but maybe someone has a better
> > > idea what it is for.
> > > 
> > > > +	if (wbc->nonblocking || wbc->for_background ||
> > > > +	    wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE)
> > > 
> > > You could remove the nonblocking and for_background checks as
> > > these impliy WB_SYNC_NONE.
> > 
> > To me that sounds fine. I've also been trying to wrap my head around the
> > differences between 'nonblocking', 'for_background', 'for_reclaim' and
> > 'for_kupdate' and how the filesystem is supposed to treat them.
> > 
> > Aside from the above, I've used 'for_reclaim', 'for_kupdate' and
> > 'for_background' in order to adjust the RPC request's queuing priority
> > (high in the case of 'for_reclaim' and low for the other two).
> > 
> 
> Here's a lightly tested patch that turns the check for the two flags
> into a check for WB_SYNC_NONE. It seems to do the right thing, but I
> don't have a clear testcase for it. Does this look reasonable?

Looks fine to me. I'll queue it up for the post-2.6.36 merge window...

Cheers
  Trond

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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	fengguang.wu@gmail.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:43:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282246999.7799.66.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819151618.5f769dc9-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:58:25 -0400
> Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 10:37 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:15:25AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > I'm looking at backporting some upstream changes to earlier kernels,
> > > > and ran across something I don't quite understand...
> > > > 
> > > > In nfs_commit_unstable_pages, we set the flags to FLUSH_SYNC. We then
> > > > zero out the flags if wbc->nonblocking or wbc->for_background is set.
> > > > 
> > > > Shouldn't we also clear it out if wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE ?
> > > > WB_SYNC_NONE means "don't wait on anything", so shouldn't that include
> > > > not waiting on the COMMIT to complete?
> > > 
> > > I've been trying to figure out what the nonblocking flag is supposed
> > > to mean for a while now.
> > > 
> > > It basically disappeared in commit 0d99519efef15fd0cf84a849492c7b1deee1e4b7
> > > 
> > > 	"writeback: remove unused nonblocking and congestion checks"
> > > 
> > > from Wu.  What's left these days is a couple of places in local copies
> > > of write_cache_pages (afs, cifs), and a couple of checks in random
> > > writepages instances (afs, block_write_full_page, ceph, nfs, reiserfs, xfs)
> > > and the use in nfs_write_inode.  It's only actually set for memory
> > > migration and pageout, that is VM writeback.
> > > 
> > > To me it really doesn't make much sense, but maybe someone has a better
> > > idea what it is for.
> > > 
> > > > +	if (wbc->nonblocking || wbc->for_background ||
> > > > +	    wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE)
> > > 
> > > You could remove the nonblocking and for_background checks as
> > > these impliy WB_SYNC_NONE.
> > 
> > To me that sounds fine. I've also been trying to wrap my head around the
> > differences between 'nonblocking', 'for_background', 'for_reclaim' and
> > 'for_kupdate' and how the filesystem is supposed to treat them.
> > 
> > Aside from the above, I've used 'for_reclaim', 'for_kupdate' and
> > 'for_background' in order to adjust the RPC request's queuing priority
> > (high in the case of 'for_reclaim' and low for the other two).
> > 
> 
> Here's a lightly tested patch that turns the check for the two flags
> into a check for WB_SYNC_NONE. It seems to do the right thing, but I
> don't have a clear testcase for it. Does this look reasonable?

Looks fine to me. I'll queue it up for the post-2.6.36 merge window...

Cheers
  Trond


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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	fengguang.wu@gmail.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:43:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282246999.7799.66.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819151618.5f769dc9@tlielax.poochiereds.net>

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:16 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:58:25 -0400
> Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 10:37 -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:15:25AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > I'm looking at backporting some upstream changes to earlier kernels,
> > > > and ran across something I don't quite understand...
> > > > 
> > > > In nfs_commit_unstable_pages, we set the flags to FLUSH_SYNC. We then
> > > > zero out the flags if wbc->nonblocking or wbc->for_background is set.
> > > > 
> > > > Shouldn't we also clear it out if wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE ?
> > > > WB_SYNC_NONE means "don't wait on anything", so shouldn't that include
> > > > not waiting on the COMMIT to complete?
> > > 
> > > I've been trying to figure out what the nonblocking flag is supposed
> > > to mean for a while now.
> > > 
> > > It basically disappeared in commit 0d99519efef15fd0cf84a849492c7b1deee1e4b7
> > > 
> > > 	"writeback: remove unused nonblocking and congestion checks"
> > > 
> > > from Wu.  What's left these days is a couple of places in local copies
> > > of write_cache_pages (afs, cifs), and a couple of checks in random
> > > writepages instances (afs, block_write_full_page, ceph, nfs, reiserfs, xfs)
> > > and the use in nfs_write_inode.  It's only actually set for memory
> > > migration and pageout, that is VM writeback.
> > > 
> > > To me it really doesn't make much sense, but maybe someone has a better
> > > idea what it is for.
> > > 
> > > > +	if (wbc->nonblocking || wbc->for_background ||
> > > > +	    wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_NONE)
> > > 
> > > You could remove the nonblocking and for_background checks as
> > > these impliy WB_SYNC_NONE.
> > 
> > To me that sounds fine. I've also been trying to wrap my head around the
> > differences between 'nonblocking', 'for_background', 'for_reclaim' and
> > 'for_kupdate' and how the filesystem is supposed to treat them.
> > 
> > Aside from the above, I've used 'for_reclaim', 'for_kupdate' and
> > 'for_background' in order to adjust the RPC request's queuing priority
> > (high in the case of 'for_reclaim' and low for the other two).
> > 
> 
> Here's a lightly tested patch that turns the check for the two flags
> into a check for WB_SYNC_NONE. It seems to do the right thing, but I
> don't have a clear testcase for it. Does this look reasonable?

Looks fine to me. I'll queue it up for the post-2.6.36 merge window...

Cheers
  Trond

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-19 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-19 14:15 why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ? Jeff Layton
     [not found] ` <20100819101525.076831ad-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 14:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 14:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 14:58     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-19 14:58       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-19 15:11       ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-19 15:11         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]       ` <1282229905.6199.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 15:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 15:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 15:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 19:16         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-19 19:16           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-19 19:16           ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]           ` <20100819151618.5f769dc9-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 19:43             ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-08-19 19:43               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-19 19:43               ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]               ` <1282246999.7799.66.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-20 13:23                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 13:23                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 13:23                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-30 19:22                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-30 19:22                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-30 19:22                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-30 23:53                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-30 23:53                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:33           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:33             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:53             ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20  0:53               ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 13:20               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 13:20                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 23:55     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 23:55       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:02       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:02         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  2:36         ` Sage Weil
2010-08-20  2:36           ` Sage Weil
2010-08-20  9:19       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20  9:19         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20100820091904.GB20138-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-20 11:27           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 11:27             ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 11:27             ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 12:44             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 12:44               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 12:26           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 12:26             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 12:26             ` Wu Fengguang

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