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From: Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org,
	stable-review@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mlock/stack guard interaction fixup
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:03:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282590237.5417.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=+O8wKZV6XT5wGJbfZdgC9kxTxvtEZMD+M+pZn@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 10:34 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Ian Jackson
> <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > But you seem, like me, to be disagreeing with Linus's assertion that
> > calling mlock() on the stack is something no sane programs does ?
> 
> Note: I don't think it's generally sane to mlock() a _part_ of the stack.

Neither do I. The Xen toolstack even has a mechanism for bouncing data
to a special area for use as hypercall arguments. I expected it was just
a few corner cases which didn't use it but when I started looking into
it due to this conversation I discovered it's not as widely used as it
should be, I'm working to fix that on the Xen end.

> [...] It's also
> dubious as a way to pin particular pages in the page tables, because
> it's not necessarily something that the semantics guarantee
> (historically mlock just guarantees that they won't be swapped out,
> not that they will necessarily maintain some particular mapping).

Xen's usage doesn't require that the physical page backing an mlocked
virtual address never changes, just that it doesn't change without
obeying the regular TLB flush semantics.

Ian.
-- 
Ian Campbell

Familiarity breeds attempt.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-23 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-20 23:59 [RFC] mlock/stack guard interaction fixup Linus Torvalds
2010-08-21  0:20 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-21  0:54   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-21 11:56 ` Ian Campbell
2010-08-21 15:48   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-21 16:08     ` Sam Ravnborg
2010-08-23 16:34       ` Tony Luck
2010-08-22  6:57     ` Ian Campbell
2010-08-22  7:33       ` Ian Campbell
2010-08-22  9:55         ` Ian Campbell
2010-08-22 16:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-22 17:25           ` Greg KH
2010-08-22 18:21             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-22 19:04               ` Greg KH
2010-08-23  9:22               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 15:42               ` ijackson
2010-08-23 16:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 17:18                   ` Ian Jackson
2010-08-23 17:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-23 17:53                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 17:59                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 18:43                         ` Darren Hart
2010-08-23 18:50                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-23 19:07                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 19:23                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-23 19:26                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 19:54                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-24  7:08                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-24  7:20                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 19:03                       ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2010-08-23 17:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-23 18:53                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-08-25  8:28             ` [Stable-review] " Stefan Bader
2010-08-23  9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra

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