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From: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
	Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:56:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282942568.2268.60.camel@jstultz-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201008271403.41949.arnd@arndb.de>

On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 14:03 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Friday 27 August 2010, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:21:39PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 17:38 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 02:28:04PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > Have you considered passing a struct timex instead of ppb and ts?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, but the timex is not suitable, IMHO.
> > > 
> > > Could you expand on this?
> > 
> > We need to able to specify that the call is for a PTP clock. We could
> > add that to the modes flag, like this:
> > 
> > /*timex.h*/
> > #define ADJ_PTP_0 0x10000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_1 0x20000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_2 0x30000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_3 0x40000
> >
> > I can live with this, if everyone else can, too.
> 
> My suggestion was actually to have a new syscall with the existing
> structure, and pass a clockid_t value to it, similar to your
> sys_clock_adjtime(), not change the actual sys_adjtime syscall.
>   
> > > Could we not add a adjustment mode ADJ_SETOFFSET or something that would
> > > provide the instantaneous offset correction?
> > 
> > Yes, but we would also need to add a struct timespec to the struct
> > timex, in order to get nanosecond resolution. I think it would be
> > possible to do in the padding at the end?
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what the padding is for. Instead of timespec, you can
> probably have a extra values for replacing the existing ppm values with
> ppb values.

Right, although the ppm/ppb issue shouldn't be a problem as the timex
allows for much finer then ppb resolution changes.

The only adjustment to the adjtimex/timex interface that may be needed
is the ability to set the time by an offset (ie: ADJ_SETOFFSET), rather
then slewing the offset in (ADJ_OFFSET, or ADJ_OFFSET_SINGLESHOT).

This avoids the calc offset, gettime(&now), settime(now+offset) method
where any latency between the gettime and settime adds to the error.

thanks
-john




thanks
-john



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:56:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282942568.2268.60.camel@jstultz-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201008271403.41949.arnd@arndb.de>

On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 14:03 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Friday 27 August 2010, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:21:39PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 17:38 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 02:28:04PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > Have you considered passing a struct timex instead of ppb and ts?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, but the timex is not suitable, IMHO.
> > > 
> > > Could you expand on this?
> > 
> > We need to able to specify that the call is for a PTP clock. We could
> > add that to the modes flag, like this:
> > 
> > /*timex.h*/
> > #define ADJ_PTP_0 0x10000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_1 0x20000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_2 0x30000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_3 0x40000
> >
> > I can live with this, if everyone else can, too.
> 
> My suggestion was actually to have a new syscall with the existing
> structure, and pass a clockid_t value to it, similar to your
> sys_clock_adjtime(), not change the actual sys_adjtime syscall.
>   
> > > Could we not add a adjustment mode ADJ_SETOFFSET or something that would
> > > provide the instantaneous offset correction?
> > 
> > Yes, but we would also need to add a struct timespec to the struct
> > timex, in order to get nanosecond resolution. I think it would be
> > possible to do in the padding at the end?
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what the padding is for. Instead of timespec, you can
> probably have a extra values for replacing the existing ppm values with
> ppb values.

Right, although the ppm/ppb issue shouldn't be a problem as the timex
allows for much finer then ppb resolution changes.

The only adjustment to the adjtimex/timex interface that may be needed
is the ability to set the time by an offset (ie: ADJ_SETOFFSET), rather
then slewing the offset in (ADJ_OFFSET, or ADJ_OFFSET_SINGLESHOT).

This avoids the calc offset, gettime(&now), settime(now+offset) method
where any latency between the gettime and settime adds to the error.

thanks
-john




thanks
-john

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: johnstul@us.ibm.com (John Stultz)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/5] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:56:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282942568.2268.60.camel@jstultz-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201008271403.41949.arnd@arndb.de>

On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 14:03 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Friday 27 August 2010, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 01:21:39PM -0700, john stultz wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 17:38 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 02:28:04PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > Have you considered passing a struct timex instead of ppb and ts?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, but the timex is not suitable, IMHO.
> > > 
> > > Could you expand on this?
> > 
> > We need to able to specify that the call is for a PTP clock. We could
> > add that to the modes flag, like this:
> > 
> > /*timex.h*/
> > #define ADJ_PTP_0 0x10000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_1 0x20000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_2 0x30000
> > #define ADJ_PTP_3 0x40000
> >
> > I can live with this, if everyone else can, too.
> 
> My suggestion was actually to have a new syscall with the existing
> structure, and pass a clockid_t value to it, similar to your
> sys_clock_adjtime(), not change the actual sys_adjtime syscall.
>   
> > > Could we not add a adjustment mode ADJ_SETOFFSET or something that would
> > > provide the instantaneous offset correction?
> > 
> > Yes, but we would also need to add a struct timespec to the struct
> > timex, in order to get nanosecond resolution. I think it would be
> > possible to do in the padding at the end?
> 
> Yes, that's exactly what the padding is for. Instead of timespec, you can
> probably have a extra values for replacing the existing ppm values with
> ppb values.

Right, although the ppm/ppb issue shouldn't be a problem as the timex
allows for much finer then ppb resolution changes.

The only adjustment to the adjtimex/timex interface that may be needed
is the ability to set the time by an offset (ie: ADJ_SETOFFSET), rather
then slewing the offset in (ADJ_OFFSET, or ADJ_OFFSET_SINGLESHOT).

This avoids the calc offset, gettime(&now), settime(now+offset) method
where any latency between the gettime and settime adds to the error.

thanks
-john




thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-16 11:17 [PATCH v5 0/5] ptp: IEEE 1588 clock support Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 14:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 14:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 14:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 14:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 19:00     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 19:00       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 19:00       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 19:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 19:59         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 19:59         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17  8:32         ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  8:32           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  8:32           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  9:25           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17  9:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17  9:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17 10:52             ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17 10:52               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17 10:52               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17 10:52               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17 11:36               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17 11:36                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17 11:36                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17 11:36                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-18  0:40                 ` john stultz
2010-08-18  0:40                   ` john stultz
2010-08-18  0:40                   ` john stultz
2010-08-18 14:04                 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18 14:04                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18 14:04                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18 14:04                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18 15:02                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-18 15:02                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-18 15:02                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19  9:22                     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  9:22                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  9:22                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  9:22                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19 12:29                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 12:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 12:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 15:23                         ` Ira W. Snyder
2010-08-19 15:23                           ` Ira W. Snyder
2010-08-19 15:23                           ` Ira W. Snyder
2010-08-19 15:48                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 15:48                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 15:48                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 19:24   ` john stultz
2010-08-16 19:24     ` john stultz
2010-08-16 19:24     ` john stultz
2010-08-16 19:38     ` john stultz
2010-08-16 19:38       ` john stultz
2010-08-16 19:38       ` john stultz
2010-08-17  8:53     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  8:53       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  8:53       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  8:53       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18  0:22       ` john stultz
2010-08-18  0:22         ` john stultz
2010-08-18  0:22         ` john stultz
2010-08-18  7:19         ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18  7:19           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18  7:19           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  0:12           ` john stultz
2010-08-19  0:12             ` john stultz
2010-08-19  0:12             ` john stultz
2010-08-19  5:55             ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  5:55               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  5:55               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  5:55               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19 12:28               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 12:28                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 12:28                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 15:38                 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19 15:38                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19 15:38                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-23 20:21                   ` john stultz
2010-08-23 20:21                     ` john stultz
2010-08-23 20:21                     ` john stultz
2010-08-27 11:08                     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 11:08                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 11:08                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 11:08                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 12:03                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-27 12:03                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-27 12:03                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-27 12:03                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-27 20:56                         ` John Stultz [this message]
2010-08-27 20:56                           ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 20:56                           ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 12:45                       ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 12:45                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 12:45                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 20:14                       ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 20:14                         ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 20:14                         ` John Stultz
2010-08-23 20:08               ` john stultz
2010-08-23 20:08                 ` john stultz
2010-08-23 20:08                 ` john stultz
2010-08-24 18:30                 ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-08-24 18:30                   ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-08-24 18:30                   ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-08-25  9:40                 ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-25  9:40                   ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-25  9:40                   ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-27  1:57                   ` john stultz
2010-08-27  1:57                     ` john stultz
2010-08-27  1:57                     ` john stultz
2010-08-27  7:57                     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27  7:57                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27  7:57                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27  7:57                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 12:41                       ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 12:41                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 12:41                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 14:02                         ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:02                           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:02                           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:02                           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:50                           ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 14:50                             ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 14:50                             ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 14:50                             ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:35                           ` M. Warner Losh
2010-08-27 15:35                             ` M. Warner Losh
2010-08-27 15:35                             ` M. Warner Losh
2010-08-27 15:35                             ` M. Warner Losh
2010-08-29 13:32                         ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-29 13:32                           ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-29 13:32                           ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-27 12:38                 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 12:38                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 12:38                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 12:38                   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 13:38                   ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 13:38                     ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 13:38                     ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 13:38                     ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 14:34                     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:34                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:34                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 14:34                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 15:06                       ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:06                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:06                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:06                         ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:21                         ` Patrick Loschmidt
2010-08-27 15:21                           ` Patrick Loschmidt
2010-08-27 15:21                           ` Patrick Loschmidt
2010-08-27 15:21                           ` Patrick Loschmidt
2010-08-27 16:17                           ` Jacob Keller
2010-08-27 16:17                             ` Jacob Keller
2010-08-27 16:17                             ` Jacob Keller
2010-08-27 22:30                   ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 22:30                     ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 22:30                     ` John Stultz
2010-09-06  6:33                     ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-06  6:33                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-06  6:33                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-06  6:33                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-21 16:54                       ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-09-21 16:54                         ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-09-21 16:54                         ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-09-21 20:47                     ` Kyle Moffett
2010-09-21 20:47                       ` Kyle Moffett
2010-09-21 20:47                       ` Kyle Moffett
2010-09-22 10:14                       ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-22 10:14                         ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-22 10:14                         ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-22 10:14                         ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18 ` [PATCH 2/5] ptp: Added a clock that uses the Linux system time Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18 ` [PATCH 3/5] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18 ` [PATCH 4/5] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:19 ` [PATCH 5/5] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:19   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:19   ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-25 21:55 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] ptp: IEEE 1588 clock support Jacob Keller

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