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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:50:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1284371457.14888.9.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1284370660.2275.86.camel@laptop>

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 11:37 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 11:16 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 10:35 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 09:08 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > > We need a better fork fairness gizmo.
> > > 
> > > Proper zero-lag insertion would do. Much sadness in that tracking that
> > > costs a u64 mult per enqueu/dequeue and using it adds a s64 div.
> > 
> > (math _sucks_:)
> > 
> > > But if you want, have a play with:
> > 
> > maximum latency: 48475.3 µs
> > average latency: 6881.4 µs
> > missed timer events: 0
> > 
> > Darn.
> > 
> > make -j3 is gaining a tad over a hog as well, roughly the same as
> > turning START_DEBIT off.
> 
> 
> Hrmm,. could it be fair_sleeper muck placing too many tasks too far left
> on wakeup starving others?

Yeah, pretty much has to be fair_sleepers holding others off for too
long.  (A shiny new preemption model is about the only thing that can
make that go away)  Perhaps lag should be negated if you've received a
reasonable chunk or something.. but what we really want is a service
deadline.

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-13  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-11 17:37 [RFC patch 0/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 17:37 ` [RFC patch 1/2] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 18:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 19:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-11 20:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 20:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 20:52           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-12  9:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-11 20:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-12  9:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12  9:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 20:39               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 12:54                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 20:34             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 12:53               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13  4:35             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13  8:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 11:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 13:52                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 13:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 14:02                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 14:21                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-11 20:52         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 19:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 10:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-12 20:37         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 12:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 13:15             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 13:56               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 14:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 14:43                   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 15:25                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 15:39                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 16:16                   ` [RFC PATCH] check_preempt_tick should not compare vruntime with wall time Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 16:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-13 17:45                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 17:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-13 18:01                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 18:10                           ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-13 18:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 18:19                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 18:23                             ` [PATCH] sched: Improve latencies under load by decreasing minimum scheduling granularity Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 18:28                               ` Joe Perches
2010-09-13 19:44                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-09-13 20:00                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 18:19                         ` [RFC PATCH] check_preempt_tick should not compare vruntime with wall time Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 17:36                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13 17:56                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-14  2:10                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 14:44                 ` [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Mike Galbraith
     [not found]               ` <1284386179.10436.6.camel@marge.simson.net>
2010-09-13 15:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 18:04                   ` [RFC][PATCH] sched: Improve tick preemption Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-14  2:27                   ` [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Mike Galbraith
2010-09-12  6:14   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-12  7:21     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-12 18:16       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13  4:13         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13  6:41           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-09-13  7:08             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13  7:35               ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13  8:35               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13  9:16                 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13  9:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13  9:50                     ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2010-09-13  9:55                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 10:06                         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 10:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 11:43                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 11:49                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-13 12:32                             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-13 20:19             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-13 20:56               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 18:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 23:44       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-11 17:37 ` [RFC patch 2/2] sched: sleepers coarse granularity on wakeup Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-09-12 12:44 ` [RFC patch 0/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr_running Peter Zijlstra

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