* [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support
@ 2010-09-27 22:51 Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-28 6:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-28 21:06 ` Rolf Eike Beer
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nicholas A. Bellinger @ 2010-09-27 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-scsi, linux-kernel
Cc: Christoph Hellwig, Martin K. Petersen, Douglas Gilbert,
Jens Axboe, FUJITA Tomonori, Mike Christie, Hannes Reinecke,
James Bottomley, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk, Boaz Harrosh,
Richard Sharpe, Nicholas Bellinger
From: Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
This patch adds UNMAP emulation support using Block layer DISCARD in fd_emulate_scsi_cdb()
-> transport_generic_unmap(). This includes the use of blk_queue_discard() in
fd_create_virtdevice() to determine when to set DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe=1 to
signal to TCM Core to perform the necessary control CDB emulation for TPE=1 / UNMAP.
Note this patch igrab() + iput() when accessing struct block_device via
I_BDEV(file->f_mapping->host) that is required for transport_generic_unmap()
within fd_emulate_scsi_cdb().
Also note that when (S_ISBLK(inode->i_mode) is NULL, the TPE=1 and UNMAP emulation
are disabled for non BD struct file I/O.
Signed-off-by: Nicholas A. Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
---
drivers/target/target_core_file.c | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
1 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/target/target_core_file.c b/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
index 93d3f63..3b91556 100644
--- a/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
+++ b/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
@@ -235,6 +235,17 @@ static struct se_device *fd_create_virtdevice(
fd_dev->fd_dev_id = fd_host->fd_host_dev_id_count++;
fd_dev->fd_queue_depth = dev->queue_depth;
+ /*
+ * Check for QUEUE_FLAG_DISCARD and enable TCM TPE emulation
+ * if present for struct block_device backend
+ */
+ if (S_ISBLK(inode->i_mode)) {
+ if (blk_queue_discard(bdev_get_queue(inode->i_bdev))) {
+ DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe = 1;
+ printk(KERN_INFO "FILEIO: Enabling BLOCK Discard"
+ " and TPE=1 emulation\n");
+ }
+ }
printk(KERN_INFO "CORE_FILE[%u] - Added TCM FILEIO Device ID: %u at %s,"
" %llu total bytes\n", fd_host->fd_host_id, fd_dev->fd_dev_id,
@@ -388,9 +399,13 @@ static int fd_emulate_read_cap16(struct se_task *task)
*/
static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
{
- int ret;
struct se_cmd *cmd = TASK_CMD(task);
+ struct fd_dev *fd_dev = (struct fd_dev *) task->se_dev->dev_ptr;
struct fd_request *fd_req = (struct fd_request *) task->transport_req;
+ struct file *f = fd_dev->fd_file;
+ struct inode *i;
+ struct block_device *bd;
+ int ret;
switch (fd_req->fd_scsi_cdb[0]) {
case INQUIRY:
@@ -433,6 +448,42 @@ static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
if (ret < 0)
return ret;
break;
+ case UNMAP:
+ i = igrab(f->f_mapping->host);
+ if (!(i)) {
+ printk(KERN_ERR "FILEIO: Unable to locate inode for"
+ " backend for UNMAP\n");
+ return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
+ }
+ /*
+ * Currently for struct file w/o a struct block_device
+ * backend we return a success..
+ */
+ if (!(S_ISBLK(i->i_mode))) {
+ printk(KERN_WARNING "Ignoring UNMAP for non BD"
+ " backend for struct file\n");
+ iput(i);
+ return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
+ }
+ bd = I_BDEV(f->f_mapping->host);
+ if (!(bd)) {
+ printk(KERN_ERR "FILEIO: Unable to locate struct"
+ " block_device for UNMAP\n");
+ iput(i);
+ return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
+ }
+ /*
+ * Now call the transport_generic_unmap() -> blkdev_issue_discard()
+ * wrapper to translate SCSI UNMAP into Linux/BLOCK discards on
+ * LBA+Range descriptors in the UNMAP write paylaod.
+ */
+ ret = transport_generic_unmap(cmd, bd);
+ if (ret < 0) {
+ iput(i);
+ return ret;
+ }
+ iput(i);
+ break;
case ALLOW_MEDIUM_REMOVAL:
case ERASE:
case REZERO_UNIT:
--
1.5.6.5
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support
2010-09-27 22:51 [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support Nicholas A. Bellinger
@ 2010-09-28 6:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29 8:08 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-28 21:06 ` Rolf Eike Beer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Boaz Harrosh @ 2010-09-28 6:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicholas A. Bellinger
Cc: linux-scsi, linux-kernel, Christoph Hellwig, Martin K. Petersen,
Douglas Gilbert, Jens Axboe, FUJITA Tomonori, Mike Christie,
Hannes Reinecke, James Bottomley, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk,
Richard Sharpe
On 09/28/2010 12:51 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> From: Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
>
> This patch adds UNMAP emulation support using Block layer DISCARD in fd_emulate_scsi_cdb()
> -> transport_generic_unmap(). This includes the use of blk_queue_discard() in
> fd_create_virtdevice() to determine when to set DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe=1 to
> signal to TCM Core to perform the necessary control CDB emulation for TPE=1 / UNMAP.
>
> Note this patch igrab() + iput() when accessing struct block_device via
> I_BDEV(file->f_mapping->host) that is required for transport_generic_unmap()
> within fd_emulate_scsi_cdb().
>
> Also note that when (S_ISBLK(inode->i_mode) is NULL, the TPE=1 and UNMAP emulation
> are disabled for non BD struct file I/O.
>
> Signed-off-by: Nicholas A. Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
> ---
> drivers/target/target_core_file.c | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> 1 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/target/target_core_file.c b/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
> index 93d3f63..3b91556 100644
> --- a/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
> +++ b/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
> @@ -235,6 +235,17 @@ static struct se_device *fd_create_virtdevice(
>
> fd_dev->fd_dev_id = fd_host->fd_host_dev_id_count++;
> fd_dev->fd_queue_depth = dev->queue_depth;
> + /*
> + * Check for QUEUE_FLAG_DISCARD and enable TCM TPE emulation
> + * if present for struct block_device backend
> + */
> + if (S_ISBLK(inode->i_mode)) {
> + if (blk_queue_discard(bdev_get_queue(inode->i_bdev))) {
> + DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe = 1;
> + printk(KERN_INFO "FILEIO: Enabling BLOCK Discard"
> + " and TPE=1 emulation\n");
> + }
> + }
>
> printk(KERN_INFO "CORE_FILE[%u] - Added TCM FILEIO Device ID: %u at %s,"
> " %llu total bytes\n", fd_host->fd_host_id, fd_dev->fd_dev_id,
> @@ -388,9 +399,13 @@ static int fd_emulate_read_cap16(struct se_task *task)
> */
> static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
> {
> - int ret;
> struct se_cmd *cmd = TASK_CMD(task);
> + struct fd_dev *fd_dev = (struct fd_dev *) task->se_dev->dev_ptr;
No need to typecast a void pointer
> struct fd_request *fd_req = (struct fd_request *) task->transport_req;
> + struct file *f = fd_dev->fd_file;
> + struct inode *i;
> + struct block_device *bd;
> + int ret;
>
> switch (fd_req->fd_scsi_cdb[0]) {
> case INQUIRY:
> @@ -433,6 +448,42 @@ static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
> if (ret < 0)
> return ret;
> break;
> + case UNMAP:
> + i = igrab(f->f_mapping->host);
> + if (!(i)) {
You must have a reference on your fileio backend file, right?
This could be a BUG_ON()
> + printk(KERN_ERR "FILEIO: Unable to locate inode for"
> + " backend for UNMAP\n");
> + return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
> + }
> + /*
> + * Currently for struct file w/o a struct block_device
> + * backend we return a success..
> + */
> + if (!(S_ISBLK(i->i_mode))) {
I did not see in the first patch that you do this check when actually sending
the VPD page. I only saw that it is enabled if set from configfs. (Sorry for
the noise if I missed it). So you might want to call a target specific function
when sending the VPD page. This way this will never happen right?
> + printk(KERN_WARNING "Ignoring UNMAP for non BD"
> + " backend for struct file\n");
TODO: Lots of extent based filesystems could enjoy if you punch an hole
in the file. (Which will also send a proper discard).
So how to punch an hole in a file via vfs?
> + iput(i);
> + return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
> + }
> + bd = I_BDEV(f->f_mapping->host);
> + if (!(bd)) {
> + printk(KERN_ERR "FILEIO: Unable to locate struct"
> + " block_device for UNMAP\n");
> + iput(i);
> + return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
> + }
> + /*
> + * Now call the transport_generic_unmap() -> blkdev_issue_discard()
> + * wrapper to translate SCSI UNMAP into Linux/BLOCK discards on
> + * LBA+Range descriptors in the UNMAP write paylaod.
> + */
> + ret = transport_generic_unmap(cmd, bd);
> + if (ret < 0) {
> + iput(i);
> + return ret;
> + }
> + iput(i);
> + break;
> case ALLOW_MEDIUM_REMOVAL:
> case ERASE:
> case REZERO_UNIT:
Boaz
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support
2010-09-27 22:51 [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-28 6:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
@ 2010-09-28 21:06 ` Rolf Eike Beer
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Rolf Eike Beer @ 2010-09-28 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicholas A. Bellinger
Cc: linux-scsi, linux-kernel, Christoph Hellwig, Martin K. Petersen,
Douglas Gilbert, Jens Axboe, FUJITA Tomonori, Mike Christie,
Hannes Reinecke, James Bottomley, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk,
Boaz Harrosh, Richard Sharpe
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Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> @@ -433,6 +448,42 @@ static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
> if (ret < 0)
> return ret;
> break;
> + case UNMAP:
> + i = igrab(f->f_mapping->host);
> + if (!(i)) {
.....
> + if (!(S_ISBLK(i->i_mode))) {
.....
> + if (!(bd)) {
Is this LISP or what? ;)
Eike
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support
2010-09-28 6:46 ` Boaz Harrosh
@ 2010-09-29 8:08 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-29 8:57 ` Boaz Harrosh
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nicholas A. Bellinger @ 2010-09-29 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Boaz Harrosh
Cc: linux-scsi, linux-kernel, Christoph Hellwig, Martin K. Petersen,
Douglas Gilbert, Jens Axboe, FUJITA Tomonori, Mike Christie,
Hannes Reinecke, James Bottomley, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk,
Richard Sharpe
On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 08:46 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> On 09/28/2010 12:51 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> > From: Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
> >
> > This patch adds UNMAP emulation support using Block layer DISCARD in fd_emulate_scsi_cdb()
> > -> transport_generic_unmap(). This includes the use of blk_queue_discard() in
> > fd_create_virtdevice() to determine when to set DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe=1 to
> > signal to TCM Core to perform the necessary control CDB emulation for TPE=1 / UNMAP.
> >
> > Note this patch igrab() + iput() when accessing struct block_device via
> > I_BDEV(file->f_mapping->host) that is required for transport_generic_unmap()
> > within fd_emulate_scsi_cdb().
> >
> > Also note that when (S_ISBLK(inode->i_mode) is NULL, the TPE=1 and UNMAP emulation
> > are disabled for non BD struct file I/O.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Nicholas A. Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
> > ---
> > drivers/target/target_core_file.c | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > 1 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/target/target_core_file.c b/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
> > index 93d3f63..3b91556 100644
> > --- a/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
> > +++ b/drivers/target/target_core_file.c
> > @@ -235,6 +235,17 @@ static struct se_device *fd_create_virtdevice(
> >
> > fd_dev->fd_dev_id = fd_host->fd_host_dev_id_count++;
> > fd_dev->fd_queue_depth = dev->queue_depth;
> > + /*
> > + * Check for QUEUE_FLAG_DISCARD and enable TCM TPE emulation
> > + * if present for struct block_device backend
> > + */
> > + if (S_ISBLK(inode->i_mode)) {
> > + if (blk_queue_discard(bdev_get_queue(inode->i_bdev))) {
> > + DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe = 1;
> > + printk(KERN_INFO "FILEIO: Enabling BLOCK Discard"
> > + " and TPE=1 emulation\n");
> > + }
> > + }
> >
> > printk(KERN_INFO "CORE_FILE[%u] - Added TCM FILEIO Device ID: %u at %s,"
> > " %llu total bytes\n", fd_host->fd_host_id, fd_dev->fd_dev_id,
> > @@ -388,9 +399,13 @@ static int fd_emulate_read_cap16(struct se_task *task)
> > */
> > static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
> > {
> > - int ret;
> > struct se_cmd *cmd = TASK_CMD(task);
> > + struct fd_dev *fd_dev = (struct fd_dev *) task->se_dev->dev_ptr;
>
> No need to typecast a void pointer
Whoops, this was a cut and paste but these unnecessary typecasts for
'struct sub_dev' and 'struct sub_task' have been around forever and can
go. Removing these in target_core_file.c, target_core_iblock,
target_core_pscsi.c target_core_rd.c, and target_core_stgt.c now.
>
> > struct fd_request *fd_req = (struct fd_request *) task->transport_req;
> > + struct file *f = fd_dev->fd_file;
> > + struct inode *i;
> > + struct block_device *bd;
> > + int ret;
> >
> > switch (fd_req->fd_scsi_cdb[0]) {
> > case INQUIRY:
> > @@ -433,6 +448,42 @@ static int fd_emulate_scsi_cdb(struct se_task *task)
> > if (ret < 0)
> > return ret;
> > break;
> > + case UNMAP:
> > + i = igrab(f->f_mapping->host);
> > + if (!(i)) {
>
> You must have a reference on your fileio backend file, right?
> This could be a BUG_ON()
Yes, this was an extra bit of paranoia as we always expect to have a
valid struct file here.
>
> > + printk(KERN_ERR "FILEIO: Unable to locate inode for"
> > + " backend for UNMAP\n");
> > + return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
> > + }
> > + /*
> > + * Currently for struct file w/o a struct block_device
> > + * backend we return a success..
> > + */
> > + if (!(S_ISBLK(i->i_mode))) {
>
> I did not see in the first patch that you do this check when actually sending
> the VPD page. I only saw that it is enabled if set from configfs. (Sorry for
> the noise if I missed it). So you might want to call a target specific function
> when sending the VPD page. This way this will never happen right?
That is correct, once we determine that fd_create_virtdevice() ->
blk_queue_discard() is going to set DEV_ATTRIB(dev)->emulate_tpe=1, this
is what will signal TPE=1 in SA READ_CAPACITY_16 and other locations in
Patch 1 for the emulated case with TCM/IBLOCK and TCM/FILEIO.
>
> > + printk(KERN_WARNING "Ignoring UNMAP for non BD"
> > + " backend for struct file\n");
>
> TODO: Lots of extent based filesystems could enjoy if you punch an hole
> in the file. (Which will also send a proper discard).
> So how to punch an hole in a file via vfs?
Good question, as all of the current block discard support assumes a
struct block_device * pointer currently.
I know that hch has mentioned that accesing a struct block_device from
struct file is very dangerous, but I am assuming for the TCM/FILEIO case
that this code will be protected by igrab() and iput().
hch and jaxboe, any comments here..?
Thanks!
--nab
>
> > + iput(i);
> > + return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
> > + }
> > + bd = I_BDEV(f->f_mapping->host);
> > + if (!(bd)) {
> > + printk(KERN_ERR "FILEIO: Unable to locate struct"
> > + " block_device for UNMAP\n");
> > + iput(i);
> > + return PYX_TRANSPORT_LU_COMM_FAILURE;
> > + }
> > + /*
> > + * Now call the transport_generic_unmap() -> blkdev_issue_discard()
> > + * wrapper to translate SCSI UNMAP into Linux/BLOCK discards on
> > + * LBA+Range descriptors in the UNMAP write paylaod.
> > + */
> > + ret = transport_generic_unmap(cmd, bd);
> > + if (ret < 0) {
> > + iput(i);
> > + return ret;
> > + }
> > + iput(i);
> > + break;
> > case ALLOW_MEDIUM_REMOVAL:
> > case ERASE:
> > case REZERO_UNIT:
>
> Boaz
>
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support
2010-09-29 8:08 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
@ 2010-09-29 8:57 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-09-29 9:08 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Boaz Harrosh @ 2010-09-29 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicholas A. Bellinger
Cc: linux-scsi, linux-kernel, Christoph Hellwig, Martin K. Petersen,
Douglas Gilbert, Jens Axboe, FUJITA Tomonori, Mike Christie,
Hannes Reinecke, James Bottomley, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk,
Richard Sharpe
On 09/29/2010 10:08 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 08:46 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>> + printk(KERN_WARNING "Ignoring UNMAP for non BD"
>>> + " backend for struct file\n");
>>
>> TODO: Lots of extent based filesystems could enjoy if you punch an hole
>> in the file. (Which will also send a proper discard).
>> So how to punch an hole in a file via vfs?
>
> Good question, as all of the current block discard support assumes a
> struct block_device * pointer currently.
>
> I know that hch has mentioned that accesing a struct block_device from
> struct file is very dangerous, but I am assuming for the TCM/FILEIO case
> that this code will be protected by igrab() and iput().
>
> hch and jaxboe, any comments here..?
>
No you did not understand. FILEIO (working on a filesystem's real file),
should *never* attempt a discard on the blocks even if it was
to read the file's map and figure out these blocks. It should always
call a filesystem specific API that puntches-an-hole in the file.
Fore stupid filesystem that means fill with zero's. For a smart
extent-based file system it means splitting up the extents the range
belongs to and freeing up the block that where allocated for that
range. But it is an heavy meta-data operation that only the filesystem
can do. With really smart FS like xfs the unallocated blocks also
get discarded, for when working with SANs with over provisioning.
> Thanks!
>
> --nab
Boaz
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* Re: [PATCH 3/3] tcm/fileio: Add UNMAP / Block DISCARD support
2010-09-29 8:57 ` Boaz Harrosh
@ 2010-09-29 9:08 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Nicholas A. Bellinger @ 2010-09-29 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Boaz Harrosh
Cc: linux-scsi, linux-kernel, Christoph Hellwig, Martin K. Petersen,
Douglas Gilbert, Jens Axboe, FUJITA Tomonori, Mike Christie,
Hannes Reinecke, James Bottomley, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk,
Richard Sharpe
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 10:57 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> On 09/29/2010 10:08 AM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 08:46 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> >>> + printk(KERN_WARNING "Ignoring UNMAP for non BD"
> >>> + " backend for struct file\n");
> >>
> >> TODO: Lots of extent based filesystems could enjoy if you punch an hole
> >> in the file. (Which will also send a proper discard).
> >> So how to punch an hole in a file via vfs?
> >
> > Good question, as all of the current block discard support assumes a
> > struct block_device * pointer currently.
> >
> > I know that hch has mentioned that accesing a struct block_device from
> > struct file is very dangerous, but I am assuming for the TCM/FILEIO case
> > that this code will be protected by igrab() and iput().
> >
> > hch and jaxboe, any comments here..?
> >
>
> No you did not understand. FILEIO (working on a filesystem's real file),
> should *never* attempt a discard on the blocks even if it was
> to read the file's map and figure out these blocks. It should always
> call a filesystem specific API that puntches-an-hole in the file.
Mmmm, then I will have to defer to the FS folks on this particular item
then.
> Fore stupid filesystem that means fill with zero's. For a smart
> extent-based file system it means splitting up the extents the range
> belongs to and freeing up the block that where allocated for that
> range. But it is an heavy meta-data operation that only the filesystem
> can do. With really smart FS like xfs the unallocated blocks also
> get discarded, for when working with SANs with over provisioning.
>
Ok, that makes sense.. But I guess I am still lost on how this could
actually be done for the !(S_ISBLK) struct file case..?
Best,
--nab
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