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* [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
@ 2010-12-02 14:51 Billy DeVincentis
  2010-12-02 20:39 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Billy DeVincentis @ 2010-12-02 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I know there have been some discussions on this matter with this driver 
previously but it would seem that in this kernel version the problem if 
it had been fixed in any earlier versions, has returned. I have clearly 
pinpointed this to be the problem. No matter what else is set in the 
bios, if this module gets loaded and is turned on in the bios (Asus 
Utilities, if 3rd party utilities are chosen there is no asus Hardware 
monitoring support), the mouse and keyboard WILL freeze. Blacklisting 
the module is the simplest way to get around the freezing. Overclocking 
doesn't have anything to do with it either. I have run it both 
overclocked and normal, no difference. Icore temp sensors work perfectly 
but only give cpu temps. What if anything can I do to try to help you 
debug this?

Thank You

Billy DeVincentis

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
@ 2010-12-02 20:39 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2010-12-02 21:50 ` Guenter Roeck
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2010-12-02 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Billy DeVincentis <billydv1@verizon.net> wrote:
> I know there have been some discussions on this matter with this driver
> previously but it would seem that in this kernel version the problem if it
> had been fixed in any earlier versions, has returned.

It was never debugged actually; the tester reported lockups even
without the module loaded...

> I have clearly
> pinpointed this to be the problem. No matter what else is set in the bios,
> if this module gets loaded and is turned on in the bios (Asus Utilities, if
> 3rd party utilities are chosen there is no asus Hardware monitoring
> support), the mouse and keyboard WILL freeze.

Only keyboard and mouse are involved or is the whole system locked up?
Can you access the PC using the network?

> What if anything can I do to try to help you debug this?

If you have network access I'll think something :)
Are you able to compile a patched kernel?

Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
  2010-12-02 20:39 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2010-12-02 21:50 ` Guenter Roeck
  2010-12-03  8:37 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Guenter Roeck @ 2010-12-02 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 15:39 -0500, Luca Tettamanti wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Billy DeVincentis <billydv1@verizon.net> wrote:
> > I know there have been some discussions on this matter with this driver
> > previously but it would seem that in this kernel version the problem if it
> > had been fixed in any earlier versions, has returned.
> 
> It was never debugged actually; the tester reported lockups even
> without the module loaded...
> 
> > I have clearly
> > pinpointed this to be the problem. No matter what else is set in the bios,
> > if this module gets loaded and is turned on in the bios (Asus Utilities, if
> > 3rd party utilities are chosen there is no asus Hardware monitoring
> > support), the mouse and keyboard WILL freeze.
> 
> Only keyboard and mouse are involved or is the whole system locked up?
> Can you access the PC using the network?
> 
> > What if anything can I do to try to help you debug this?
> 
> If you have network access I'll think something :)
> Are you able to compile a patched kernel?

Some information on the web indicates that the problem may be fixed by
updating the Asus BIOS to the latest version. This supposedly helped on
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro and ASUS P5K Pro MB.
Someone else suggested to add "acpi=force irqpoll" to the linux command
line.

Seen on https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/585765?comments=all.

Guenter



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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
  2010-12-02 20:39 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2010-12-02 21:50 ` Guenter Roeck
@ 2010-12-03  8:37 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2010-12-04  5:11 ` Billy DeVincentis
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2010-12-03  8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Guenter Roeck
<guenter.roeck@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Someone else suggested to add "acpi=force irqpoll" to the linux command
> line.

Interesting :) My suspicion is that the syncronization with the EC is
going bad (somehow).

Luca

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* [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2010-12-03  8:37 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2010-12-04  5:11 ` Billy DeVincentis
  2010-12-04 13:12 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Billy DeVincentis @ 2010-12-04  5:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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          Okay, I have tried booting with the acpi=force irqpoll and 
this does nothing more than make the system slow and unusable, but on 
the other hand, the mouse and keyboard don't freeze.

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2010-12-04  5:11 ` Billy DeVincentis
@ 2010-12-04 13:12 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2010-12-07 14:12 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2010-12-04 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

Please reply to all, don't trim the CC list.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Billy DeVincentis <billydv1@verizon.net> wrote:
>         Okay, I have tried booting with the acpi=force irqpoll and this does
> nothing more than make the system slow and unusable, but on the other hand,
> the mouse and keyboard don't freeze.

irqpoll it's just a band aid; can you access the machine using the
network (e.g. ssh)?

Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2010-12-04 13:12 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2010-12-07 14:12 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2011-05-18 12:32 ` Javier S. Pedro
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2010-12-07 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

Please use "reply all"

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Billy DeVincentis <billydv1@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 12/04/2010 08:12 AM, Luca Tettamanti wrote:
>>
>> Please reply to all, don't trim the CC list.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Billy DeVincentis<billydv1@verizon.net>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>         Okay, I have tried booting with the acpi=force irqpoll and this
>>> does
>>> nothing more than make the system slow and unusable, but on the other
>>> hand,
>>> the mouse and keyboard don't freeze.
>>
>> irqpoll it's just a band aid; can you access the machine using the
>> network (e.g. ssh)?
>
> Yes, always.

Ok, excellent. When the keyboard freezes ssh into the machine and take
a snapshot of /proc/interrupts, then press a few keys and take another
snapshot.
Please also send me the dmesg (after the lock up).

Are you able to compile a custom kernel?

Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2010-12-07 14:12 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2011-05-18 12:32 ` Javier S. Pedro
  2011-05-30 11:23 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Javier S. Pedro @ 2011-05-18 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

Did you get somewhere with this?

I too have a P7P55D. While I do not normally use atk0110, I decided to 
build it (2.6.37), load it on a system that had a few days of uptime and 
bang! keyboard and mouse were locked in 7 seconds.

(Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:12:40 +0100) Luca Tettamanti:
> Ok, excellent. When the keyboard freezes ssh into the machine and take a
> snapshot of /proc/interrupts, then press a few keys and take another
> snapshot.
> Please also send me the dmesg (after the lock up).

i8042 seems to stop sending interrupts as seen on a /proc/interrupts diff:

7c7
<  16:       3322       3315       3313       3289   IO-APIC-fasteoi   
ehci_hcd:usb1, EMU10K1, nvidia
---
>  16:       3343       3336       3331       3309   IO-APIC-fasteoi   
ehci_hcd:usb1, EMU10K1, nvidia
11,12c11,12
<  40:      25414      25283      25248      25192   PCI-MSI-edge      
ahci
<  41:       3527       3533       3579       3598   PCI-MSI-edge      
eth0
---
>  40:      25440      25310      25278      25221   PCI-MSI-edge      
ahci
>  41:       3533       3538       3584       3603   PCI-MSI-edge      
eth0
15c15
< LOC:     145024     158135     165464      99774   Local timer 
interrupts
---
> LOC:     145282     158207     165545      99944   Local timer 
interrupts

Nothing was on dmesg after lockup, so no idea why this happens.


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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-05-18 12:32 ` Javier S. Pedro
@ 2011-05-30 11:23 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2011-06-07 16:02 ` Javier
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2011-05-30 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Javier S. Pedro <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
> Did you get somewhere with this?
>
> I too have a P7P55D. While I do not normally use atk0110, I decided to
> build it (2.6.37), load it on a system that had a few days of uptime and
> bang! keyboard and mouse were locked in 7 seconds.

Sorry for the delay, I just noticed the email. Can you send me a copy
of the DSDT table?

thanks,
Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-05-30 11:23 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2011-06-07 16:02 ` Javier
  2011-06-08  7:46 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Javier @ 2011-06-07 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/5/30 Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Javier S. Pedro <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
>> I too have a P7P55D. While I do not normally use atk0110, I decided to
>> build it (2.6.37), load it on a system that had a few days of uptime and
>> bang! keyboard and mouse were locked in 7 seconds.
> Sorry for the delay, I just noticed the email. Can you send me a copy
> of the DSDT table?

Sorry for the delay too :). Here it is. I have the latest BIOS
revision that is available for this board (2003).

Javier.

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (8 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-07 16:02 ` Javier
@ 2011-06-08  7:46 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2011-06-08 11:20 ` Javier
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2011-06-08  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Javier <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
> 2011/5/30 Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>:
>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Javier S. Pedro <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
>>> I too have a P7P55D. While I do not normally use atk0110, I decided to
>>> build it (2.6.37), load it on a system that had a few days of uptime and
>>> bang! keyboard and mouse were locked in 7 seconds.
>> Sorry for the delay, I just noticed the email. Can you send me a copy
>> of the DSDT table?
>
> Sorry for the delay too :). Here it is. I have the latest BIOS
> revision that is available for this board (2003).

I'll take a look ASAP (but this weekend I'll be AFK). Does your kernel
have ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled?

Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (9 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-08  7:46 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2011-06-08 11:20 ` Javier
  2011-06-15 12:13 ` Luca Tettamanti
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From: Javier @ 2011-06-08 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

2011/6/8 Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>:
> I'll take a look ASAP (but this weekend I'll be AFK). Does your kernel
> have ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled?

No, but I can easily rebuild it (do not worry). No hurries. Thank you
for the efforts!

Javier.

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (10 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-08 11:20 ` Javier
@ 2011-06-15 12:13 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2011-06-15 15:25 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2011-06-16 18:54 ` Jean Delvare
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2011-06-15 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Javier <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
> 2011/6/8 Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>:
>> I'll take a look ASAP (but this weekend I'll be AFK). Does your kernel
>> have ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled?
>
> No, but I can easily rebuild it (do not worry).

Yes please, ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD will be needed; I'm preparing a patched
version of the DSDT and the driver.

Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (11 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-15 12:13 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2011-06-15 15:25 ` Luca Tettamanti
  2011-06-16 18:54 ` Jean Delvare
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From: Luca Tettamanti @ 2011-06-15 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Javier <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
>> 2011/6/8 Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>:
>>> I'll take a look ASAP (but this weekend I'll be AFK). Does your kernel
>>> have ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled?
>>
>> No, but I can easily rebuild it (do not worry).
>
> Yes please, ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD will be needed; I'm preparing a patched
> version of the DSDT and the driver.

I'm attaching a patched version of the monitoring method.
Boot the kernel with ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled and do *not* load
asus_atk0110; load the override with:
cat DSDT.aml > /sys/kernel/debug/acpi/custom_method
If everything looks good then try asus_atk0110 and see if it's stable.
If it still locks up the machine I'll have to try a different
approach...

Luca

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* Re: [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in
  2010-12-02 14:51 [lm-sensors] asus_atk0110 causes mouse and keyboard freeze in Billy DeVincentis
                   ` (12 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-06-15 15:25 ` Luca Tettamanti
@ 2011-06-16 18:54 ` Jean Delvare
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From: Jean Delvare @ 2011-06-16 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: lm-sensors

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:25:08 +0200, Luca Tettamanti wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Javier <javier@javispedro.com> wrote:
> >> 2011/6/8 Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>:
> >>> I'll take a look ASAP (but this weekend I'll be AFK). Does your kernel
> >>> have ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled?
> >>
> >> No, but I can easily rebuild it (do not worry).
> >
> > Yes please, ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD will be needed; I'm preparing a patched
> > version of the DSDT and the driver.
> 
> I'm attaching a patched version of the monitoring method.
> Boot the kernel with ACPI_CUSTOM_METHOD enabled and do *not* load
> asus_atk0110; load the override with:
> cat DSDT.aml > /sys/kernel/debug/acpi/custom_method
> If everything looks good then try asus_atk0110 and see if it's stable.
> If it still locks up the machine I'll have to try a different
> approach...

Note that the asus_atk0110 driver will autoload on most systems which
need it thanks to the module alias, so if you don't want this to
happen, you'll have to blacklist the driver
in /etc/modprobe.d/something.

-- 
Jean Delvare

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