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From: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Ciju Rajan K <ciju@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Chad Talbott <ctalbott@google.com>,
	Justin TerAvest <teravest@google.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Subject: [PATCH v5 5/9] memcg: add dirty page accounting infrastructure
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:35:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298669760-26344-6-git-send-email-gthelen@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1298669760-26344-1-git-send-email-gthelen@google.com>

Add memcg routines to track dirty, writeback, and unstable_NFS pages.
These routines are not yet used by the kernel to count such pages.
A later change adds kernel calls to these new routines.

Signed-off-by: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>
Acked-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Acked-by: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
---
Changelog since v1:
- Renamed "nfs"/"total_nfs" to "nfs_unstable"/"total_nfs_unstable" in per cgroup
  memory.stat to match /proc/meminfo.
- Rename (for clarity):
  - mem_cgroup_write_page_stat_item -> mem_cgroup_page_stat_item
  - mem_cgroup_read_page_stat_item -> mem_cgroup_nr_pages_item
- Remove redundant comments.
- Made mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat() inline.

 include/linux/memcontrol.h |    5 ++-
 mm/memcontrol.c            |   87 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
 2 files changed, 83 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
index 3da48ae..e1f70a9 100644
--- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
+++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
@@ -25,9 +25,12 @@ struct page_cgroup;
 struct page;
 struct mm_struct;
 
-/* Stats that can be updated by kernel. */
+/* mem_cgroup page counts accessed by kernel. */
 enum mem_cgroup_page_stat_item {
 	MEMCG_NR_FILE_MAPPED, /* # of pages charged as file rss */
+	MEMCG_NR_FILE_DIRTY, /* # of dirty pages in page cache */
+	MEMCG_NR_FILE_WRITEBACK, /* # of pages under writeback */
+	MEMCG_NR_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS, /* # of NFS unstable pages */
 };
 
 extern unsigned long mem_cgroup_isolate_pages(unsigned long nr_to_scan,
diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
index 1c2704a..38f786b 100644
--- a/mm/memcontrol.c
+++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
@@ -92,8 +92,11 @@ enum mem_cgroup_stat_index {
 	 */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_CACHE, 	   /* # of pages charged as cache */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_RSS,	   /* # of pages charged as anon rss */
-	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED,  /* # of pages charged as file rss */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SWAPOUT, /* # of pages, swapped out */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED,  /* # of pages charged as file rss */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY,	/* # of dirty pages in page cache */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK,		/* # of pages under writeback */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS,	/* # of NFS unstable pages */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_DATA, /* end of data requires synchronization */
 	MEM_CGROUP_ON_MOVE,	/* someone is moving account between groups */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_NSTATS,
@@ -1622,6 +1625,44 @@ void mem_cgroup_update_page_stat(struct page *page,
 			ClearPageCgroupFileMapped(pc);
 		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED;
 		break;
+
+	case MEMCG_NR_FILE_DIRTY:
+		/* Use Test{Set,Clear} to only un/charge the memcg once. */
+		if (val > 0) {
+			if (TestSetPageCgroupFileDirty(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		} else {
+			if (!TestClearPageCgroupFileDirty(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		}
+		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY;
+		break;
+
+	case MEMCG_NR_FILE_WRITEBACK:
+		/*
+		 * This counter is adjusted while holding the mapping's
+		 * tree_lock.  Therefore there is no race between settings and
+		 * clearing of this flag.
+		 */
+		if (val > 0)
+			SetPageCgroupFileWriteback(pc);
+		else
+			ClearPageCgroupFileWriteback(pc);
+		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK;
+		break;
+
+	case MEMCG_NR_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS:
+		/* Use Test{Set,Clear} to only un/charge the memcg once. */
+		if (val > 0) {
+			if (TestSetPageCgroupFileUnstableNFS(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		} else {
+			if (!TestClearPageCgroupFileUnstableNFS(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		}
+		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS;
+		break;
+
 	default:
 		BUG();
 	}
@@ -2181,6 +2222,17 @@ void mem_cgroup_split_huge_fixup(struct page *head, struct page *tail)
 }
 #endif
 
+static inline
+void mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(struct mem_cgroup *from,
+				       struct mem_cgroup *to,
+				       enum mem_cgroup_stat_index idx)
+{
+	preempt_disable();
+	__this_cpu_dec(from->stat->count[idx]);
+	__this_cpu_inc(to->stat->count[idx]);
+	preempt_enable();
+}
+
 /**
  * mem_cgroup_move_account - move account of the page
  * @page: the page
@@ -2229,13 +2281,18 @@ static int mem_cgroup_move_account(struct page *page,
 
 	move_lock_page_cgroup(pc, &flags);
 
-	if (PageCgroupFileMapped(pc)) {
-		/* Update mapped_file data for mem_cgroup */
-		preempt_disable();
-		__this_cpu_dec(from->stat->count[MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED]);
-		__this_cpu_inc(to->stat->count[MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED]);
-		preempt_enable();
-	}
+	if (PageCgroupFileMapped(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED);
+	if (PageCgroupFileDirty(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY);
+	if (PageCgroupFileWriteback(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK);
+	if (PageCgroupFileUnstableNFS(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS);
 	mem_cgroup_charge_statistics(from, PageCgroupCache(pc), -nr_pages);
 	if (uncharge)
 		/* This is not "cancel", but cancel_charge does all we need. */
@@ -3681,6 +3738,9 @@ enum {
 	MCS_PGPGIN,
 	MCS_PGPGOUT,
 	MCS_SWAP,
+	MCS_FILE_DIRTY,
+	MCS_WRITEBACK,
+	MCS_UNSTABLE_NFS,
 	MCS_INACTIVE_ANON,
 	MCS_ACTIVE_ANON,
 	MCS_INACTIVE_FILE,
@@ -3703,6 +3763,9 @@ struct {
 	{"pgpgin", "total_pgpgin"},
 	{"pgpgout", "total_pgpgout"},
 	{"swap", "total_swap"},
+	{"dirty", "total_dirty"},
+	{"writeback", "total_writeback"},
+	{"nfs_unstable", "total_nfs_unstable"},
 	{"inactive_anon", "total_inactive_anon"},
 	{"active_anon", "total_active_anon"},
 	{"inactive_file", "total_inactive_file"},
@@ -3732,6 +3795,14 @@ mem_cgroup_get_local_stat(struct mem_cgroup *mem, struct mcs_total_stat *s)
 		s->stat[MCS_SWAP] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
 	}
 
+	/* dirty stat */
+	val = mem_cgroup_read_stat(mem, MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY);
+	s->stat[MCS_FILE_DIRTY] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
+	val = mem_cgroup_read_stat(mem, MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK);
+	s->stat[MCS_WRITEBACK] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
+	val = mem_cgroup_read_stat(mem, MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS);
+	s->stat[MCS_UNSTABLE_NFS] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
+
 	/* per zone stat */
 	val = mem_cgroup_get_local_zonestat(mem, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON);
 	s->stat[MCS_INACTIVE_ANON] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
-- 
1.7.3.1

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From: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Ciju Rajan K <ciju@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Chad Talbott <ctalbott@google.com>,
	Justin TerAvest <teravest@google.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Subject: [PATCH v5 5/9] memcg: add dirty page accounting infrastructure
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:35:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298669760-26344-6-git-send-email-gthelen@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1298669760-26344-1-git-send-email-gthelen@google.com>

Add memcg routines to track dirty, writeback, and unstable_NFS pages.
These routines are not yet used by the kernel to count such pages.
A later change adds kernel calls to these new routines.

Signed-off-by: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>
Acked-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Acked-by: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
---
Changelog since v1:
- Renamed "nfs"/"total_nfs" to "nfs_unstable"/"total_nfs_unstable" in per cgroup
  memory.stat to match /proc/meminfo.
- Rename (for clarity):
  - mem_cgroup_write_page_stat_item -> mem_cgroup_page_stat_item
  - mem_cgroup_read_page_stat_item -> mem_cgroup_nr_pages_item
- Remove redundant comments.
- Made mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat() inline.

 include/linux/memcontrol.h |    5 ++-
 mm/memcontrol.c            |   87 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
 2 files changed, 83 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
index 3da48ae..e1f70a9 100644
--- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
+++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
@@ -25,9 +25,12 @@ struct page_cgroup;
 struct page;
 struct mm_struct;
 
-/* Stats that can be updated by kernel. */
+/* mem_cgroup page counts accessed by kernel. */
 enum mem_cgroup_page_stat_item {
 	MEMCG_NR_FILE_MAPPED, /* # of pages charged as file rss */
+	MEMCG_NR_FILE_DIRTY, /* # of dirty pages in page cache */
+	MEMCG_NR_FILE_WRITEBACK, /* # of pages under writeback */
+	MEMCG_NR_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS, /* # of NFS unstable pages */
 };
 
 extern unsigned long mem_cgroup_isolate_pages(unsigned long nr_to_scan,
diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
index 1c2704a..38f786b 100644
--- a/mm/memcontrol.c
+++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
@@ -92,8 +92,11 @@ enum mem_cgroup_stat_index {
 	 */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_CACHE, 	   /* # of pages charged as cache */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_RSS,	   /* # of pages charged as anon rss */
-	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED,  /* # of pages charged as file rss */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SWAPOUT, /* # of pages, swapped out */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED,  /* # of pages charged as file rss */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY,	/* # of dirty pages in page cache */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK,		/* # of pages under writeback */
+	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS,	/* # of NFS unstable pages */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_DATA, /* end of data requires synchronization */
 	MEM_CGROUP_ON_MOVE,	/* someone is moving account between groups */
 	MEM_CGROUP_STAT_NSTATS,
@@ -1622,6 +1625,44 @@ void mem_cgroup_update_page_stat(struct page *page,
 			ClearPageCgroupFileMapped(pc);
 		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED;
 		break;
+
+	case MEMCG_NR_FILE_DIRTY:
+		/* Use Test{Set,Clear} to only un/charge the memcg once. */
+		if (val > 0) {
+			if (TestSetPageCgroupFileDirty(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		} else {
+			if (!TestClearPageCgroupFileDirty(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		}
+		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY;
+		break;
+
+	case MEMCG_NR_FILE_WRITEBACK:
+		/*
+		 * This counter is adjusted while holding the mapping's
+		 * tree_lock.  Therefore there is no race between settings and
+		 * clearing of this flag.
+		 */
+		if (val > 0)
+			SetPageCgroupFileWriteback(pc);
+		else
+			ClearPageCgroupFileWriteback(pc);
+		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK;
+		break;
+
+	case MEMCG_NR_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS:
+		/* Use Test{Set,Clear} to only un/charge the memcg once. */
+		if (val > 0) {
+			if (TestSetPageCgroupFileUnstableNFS(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		} else {
+			if (!TestClearPageCgroupFileUnstableNFS(pc))
+				val = 0;
+		}
+		idx = MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS;
+		break;
+
 	default:
 		BUG();
 	}
@@ -2181,6 +2222,17 @@ void mem_cgroup_split_huge_fixup(struct page *head, struct page *tail)
 }
 #endif
 
+static inline
+void mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(struct mem_cgroup *from,
+				       struct mem_cgroup *to,
+				       enum mem_cgroup_stat_index idx)
+{
+	preempt_disable();
+	__this_cpu_dec(from->stat->count[idx]);
+	__this_cpu_inc(to->stat->count[idx]);
+	preempt_enable();
+}
+
 /**
  * mem_cgroup_move_account - move account of the page
  * @page: the page
@@ -2229,13 +2281,18 @@ static int mem_cgroup_move_account(struct page *page,
 
 	move_lock_page_cgroup(pc, &flags);
 
-	if (PageCgroupFileMapped(pc)) {
-		/* Update mapped_file data for mem_cgroup */
-		preempt_disable();
-		__this_cpu_dec(from->stat->count[MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED]);
-		__this_cpu_inc(to->stat->count[MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED]);
-		preempt_enable();
-	}
+	if (PageCgroupFileMapped(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED);
+	if (PageCgroupFileDirty(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY);
+	if (PageCgroupFileWriteback(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK);
+	if (PageCgroupFileUnstableNFS(pc))
+		mem_cgroup_move_account_page_stat(from, to,
+					MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS);
 	mem_cgroup_charge_statistics(from, PageCgroupCache(pc), -nr_pages);
 	if (uncharge)
 		/* This is not "cancel", but cancel_charge does all we need. */
@@ -3681,6 +3738,9 @@ enum {
 	MCS_PGPGIN,
 	MCS_PGPGOUT,
 	MCS_SWAP,
+	MCS_FILE_DIRTY,
+	MCS_WRITEBACK,
+	MCS_UNSTABLE_NFS,
 	MCS_INACTIVE_ANON,
 	MCS_ACTIVE_ANON,
 	MCS_INACTIVE_FILE,
@@ -3703,6 +3763,9 @@ struct {
 	{"pgpgin", "total_pgpgin"},
 	{"pgpgout", "total_pgpgout"},
 	{"swap", "total_swap"},
+	{"dirty", "total_dirty"},
+	{"writeback", "total_writeback"},
+	{"nfs_unstable", "total_nfs_unstable"},
 	{"inactive_anon", "total_inactive_anon"},
 	{"active_anon", "total_active_anon"},
 	{"inactive_file", "total_inactive_file"},
@@ -3732,6 +3795,14 @@ mem_cgroup_get_local_stat(struct mem_cgroup *mem, struct mcs_total_stat *s)
 		s->stat[MCS_SWAP] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
 	}
 
+	/* dirty stat */
+	val = mem_cgroup_read_stat(mem, MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_DIRTY);
+	s->stat[MCS_FILE_DIRTY] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
+	val = mem_cgroup_read_stat(mem, MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_WRITEBACK);
+	s->stat[MCS_WRITEBACK] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
+	val = mem_cgroup_read_stat(mem, MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_UNSTABLE_NFS);
+	s->stat[MCS_UNSTABLE_NFS] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
+
 	/* per zone stat */
 	val = mem_cgroup_get_local_zonestat(mem, LRU_INACTIVE_ANON);
 	s->stat[MCS_INACTIVE_ANON] += val * PAGE_SIZE;
-- 
1.7.3.1


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-25 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-25 21:35 [PATCH v5 0/9] memcg: per cgroup dirty page accounting Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35 ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] memcg: document cgroup dirty memory interfaces Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-28  2:27   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-28  2:27     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-11 10:19   ` Balbir Singh
2011-03-11 10:19     ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] memcg: add page_cgroup flags for dirty page tracking Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-27 15:56   ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-27 15:56     ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] writeback: convert variables to unsigned Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-27 16:07   ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-27 16:07     ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-28 23:52     ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-28 23:52       ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-01  4:50       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-01  4:50         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-01  4:50         ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-28  2:28   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-28  2:28     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] writeback: create dirty_info structure Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-27 16:38   ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-27 16:38     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-01 21:13     ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-01 21:13       ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35 ` Greg Thelen [this message]
2011-02-25 21:35   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] memcg: add dirty page accounting infrastructure Greg Thelen
2011-02-27 16:47   ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-27 16:47     ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-28  2:34     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-28  2:34       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] memcg: add kernel calls for memcg dirty page stats Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-27 17:01   ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-27 17:01     ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-28  2:40     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-28  2:40       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-10 16:18       ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-10 16:18         ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] memcg: add dirty limits to mem_cgroup Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-28  2:46   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-28  2:46     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-02-25 21:35 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] memcg: add cgroupfs interface to memcg dirty limits Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:35   ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:36 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] memcg: check memcg dirty limits in page writeback Greg Thelen
2011-02-25 21:36   ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-01  4:44   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-01  4:44     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-02 23:17   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-02 23:17     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-04  0:30     ` Greg Thelen
2011-03-04  0:30       ` Greg Thelen
2011-02-26  4:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] memcg: per cgroup dirty page accounting Greg Thelen
2011-02-26  4:16   ` Greg Thelen

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