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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
Cc: Benoit Sigoure <tsunanet@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi,
	jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:20:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305634823.2850.90.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6b52d895fca947b4cce2896d593619b@localhost>

Le mardi 17 mai 2011 à 13:02 +0200, Hagen Paul Pfeifer a écrit :
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 10:07:57 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> 
> > I wont discuss if introducing a new sysctl is welcomed, only on patch
> > issues. I believe some work in IETF is done to reduce the 3sec value to
> > 1sec anyway.
> 
> Why not? 

Just because I let this point to David and others. I personally dont
care that much.

> I though all new knobs in this area should be done on a per route
> metric so it can be controlled on a per path basis. RTO should be
> adjustable on a per path basis, because it depends on the path.
> 

Adding many knobs to each clone had a huge cost on previous kernels.
(Think some machines have millions entries in IP route cache), this used
quite a lot of memory.

With latest David work, we'll consume less ram, because we can now share
settings, instead of copying them on each dst entry.



> Some months back [1] I posted a patch to enable/disable TCP quick ack
> mode, which has nothing to do with network paths, just with a local server
> policy. But David rejected the patch with the argument that I should use a
> per path knob (this is a little bit inapprehensible for me, but David has
> the last word).

Well, if nobody speaks after David, he has the last word indeed.

BTW, I remember Stephen actually asked the per route thing, not David.

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2010/8/23/6283641

Then David also stated it :

http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-netdev/2010/8/23/6283678

If you really want tcp_quickack thing you really should do it as
requested by both Stephen & David ;)

Unfortunately, I dont know if its really needed or worthwhile.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-17 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17  7:40 [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-17  7:40 ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-17  8:01   ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-17  8:34     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  8:07   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 11:02     ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-17 11:02       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-17 12:20       ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-05-18 10:43     ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-18 19:26       ` David Miller
2011-05-18 19:40         ` tsuna
2011-05-18 19:52           ` David Miller
2011-05-18 20:20             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-18 20:23               ` David Miller
2011-05-18 20:27                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 10:27               ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2011-05-20 11:00                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 11:00                   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 12:37                   ` Alan Cox
2011-05-21  0:06                   ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2011-05-31 14:48                     ` tsuna
2011-05-31 15:25                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:25                         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:28                         ` tsuna
2011-05-31 15:43                           ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:43                             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19  2:22             ` [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO as per draft RFC 2988bis-02 Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  2:22               ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  2:36               ` David Miller
2011-05-19  3:56                 ` tsuna
2011-05-19  4:14                   ` David Miller
2011-05-19  4:33                     ` tsuna
2011-05-19  5:46                       ` David Miller
2011-05-19  6:36                         ` [PATCH] tcp: Lower the initial RTO to 1s " Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  6:36                           ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19 17:42                           ` Yuchung Cheng
2011-05-19  6:47                         ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  6:47                           ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19 20:16                           ` David Miller
2011-05-19  6:10                       ` [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO " Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  6:25                         ` tsuna
2011-05-19  6:36                           ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  6:42                             ` tsuna
2011-05-19  6:52                               ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  7:07                                 ` tsuna
2011-05-19  8:02                                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19  8:02                                   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19 16:40                                   ` tsuna
2011-05-19 16:55                                     ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19 17:11                                       ` tsuna
2011-05-19 19:27                                         ` David Miller
2011-05-19 20:30                                           ` tsuna
2011-05-20  2:01           ` [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl H.K. Jerry Chu

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