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From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: tsunanet@gmail.com, kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, pekkas@netcore.fi,
	jmorris@namei.org, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, kaber@trash.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl.
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:20:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110518202025.GC4175@nuttenaction> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110518.155200.801089483916944725.davem@davemloft.net>

* David Miller | 2011-05-18 15:52:00 [-0400]:

>I've already changed the initial TCP congestion window in Linux to 10
>without some stupid draft being fully accepted.
>
>I'll just as easily accept right now a patch right now which lowers
>the initial RTO to 1 second and adds the 3 second RTO fallback.

I like the idea to make the initial RTO a knob because we in a isolated MANET
environment have a RTT larger then 1 second. Especially the link layer setup
procedure over several hops demand some time-costly setup time. After that the
RTT is <1 second. The current algorithm works great for us. So this RTO change
will be counterproductive: it will always trigger a needless timeout.

The main problem for us is that Google at all pushing their view of Internet
with a lot of pressure. The same is true for the IETF IW adjustments, which is
unsuitable for networks which operates at a bandwidth characteristic some
years ago. The _former_ conservative principle "TCP over everything" is
forgotten.

Hagen

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-17  7:40 [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-17  7:40 ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-17  8:01   ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-17  8:34     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  8:07   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 11:02     ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-17 11:02       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-17 12:20       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-18 10:43     ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-18 19:26       ` David Miller
2011-05-18 19:40         ` tsuna
2011-05-18 19:52           ` David Miller
2011-05-18 20:20             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer [this message]
2011-05-18 20:23               ` David Miller
2011-05-18 20:27                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 10:27               ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2011-05-20 11:00                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 11:00                   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-20 12:37                   ` Alan Cox
2011-05-21  0:06                   ` H.K. Jerry Chu
2011-05-31 14:48                     ` tsuna
2011-05-31 15:25                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:25                         ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:28                         ` tsuna
2011-05-31 15:43                           ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-31 15:43                             ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19  2:22             ` [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO as per draft RFC 2988bis-02 Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  2:22               ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  2:36               ` David Miller
2011-05-19  3:56                 ` tsuna
2011-05-19  4:14                   ` David Miller
2011-05-19  4:33                     ` tsuna
2011-05-19  5:46                       ` David Miller
2011-05-19  6:36                         ` [PATCH] tcp: Lower the initial RTO to 1s " Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  6:36                           ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19 17:42                           ` Yuchung Cheng
2011-05-19  6:47                         ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19  6:47                           ` Benoit Sigoure
2011-05-19 20:16                           ` David Miller
2011-05-19  6:10                       ` [PATCH] tcp: Implement a two-level initial RTO " Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  6:25                         ` tsuna
2011-05-19  6:36                           ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  6:42                             ` tsuna
2011-05-19  6:52                               ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19  7:07                                 ` tsuna
2011-05-19  8:02                                 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19  8:02                                   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-05-19 16:40                                   ` tsuna
2011-05-19 16:55                                     ` Alexander Zimmermann
2011-05-19 17:11                                       ` tsuna
2011-05-19 19:27                                         ` David Miller
2011-05-19 20:30                                           ` tsuna
2011-05-20  2:01           ` [PATCH] tcp: Expose the initial RTO via a new sysctl H.K. Jerry Chu

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