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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Cc: Yong Zhang <yong.zhang0@gmail.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"markus@trippelsdorf.de" <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 12:36:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1307097360.2353.3071.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <schedulerIPIirqEnter@mdm.bga.com>

On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 04:57 -0500, Milton Miller wrote:

> [me looks closely at patch and finds early return]

Yeah, in case there's nothing to do, all the old conditions hold and
irq_enter isn't strictly required.

> > 
> > We could of course add it in sched.c since the logic recurses just
> > fine.. its not pretty though.. :/
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Many architectures already have an irq_enter becuase they have a single
> interrupt to the cpu for all external causes including software; they
> do the irq_enter before reading from the irq controller to know the
> reason for the interrupt.  A quick glance at irq_enter and irq_exit
> shows they will do several things twice when nested, even if that
> is safe.

Agreed, and its a worry I had. The flip side is that doing it in the
arch code means I have to audit all the archs again (not that I mind too
much, but it takes a wee bit longer), also I'll have to look at all the
code using this IPI for the old purpose.

> Are there really that many calls with the empty list that it makes
> sense to avoid and optimize this on x86 while penalizing the several
> architectures with a nested irq_enter and exit?

I _think_ the now predominant case is this remote wakeup, so adding
irq_enter() to all arch paths isn't too big of a problem, but I need to
make sure.

>   When it also duplicates
> sched_ttwu_pending (because it can't be common with the additional tests)?

yeah, sad that.

> We said the perf mon callback (now irq_work) had to be under irq_enter.

Correct, anything that actually does something in the handler needs
irq_enter, the problem with the resched ipi was that it never actually
did anything and the idle loop exit took care of the no_hz funnies.

> Can we get some numbers for how often the two cases occur on some
> various workloads?

Sure, let me stick some counters in.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-03 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-30 17:39 Very high CPU values in top on idle system (3.0-rc1) Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 18:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-30 18:23   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 20:45     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 22:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31  9:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 10:04           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-31 12:31           ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 12:56             ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 13:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-01  7:05                 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-01 10:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-01 15:50                     ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-02  7:52                       ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-02 13:04                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-02 14:23                           ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-02 15:48                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03  6:49                               ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-07 13:12                               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-07 13:16                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03  9:57                             ` Milton Miller
2011-06-03 10:36                               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-06-03 10:55                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03 10:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra

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