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* [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
@ 2011-09-16  8:20 Koen Kooi
  2011-09-16  8:20 ` [RFC 2/2] gst-meta-base: adjust plugin names after gstreamer packaging changes Koen Kooi
  2011-09-16 10:09 ` [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2011-09-16  8:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-core; +Cc: Koen Kooi

some text here

Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
---
 .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc              |    4 ++--
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
index 796df14..dae9416 100644
--- a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
+++ b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
@@ -6,8 +6,8 @@ python populate_packages_prepend () {
 	glibdir = bb.data.expand('${libdir}', d)
 
 	do_split_packages(d, glibdir, '^lib(.*)\.so\.*', 'lib%s', 'gstreamer %s library', extra_depends='', allow_links=True)
-	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, 'libgst(.*)\.so$', bb.data.expand('${PN}-%s', d), 'GStreamer plugin for %s', postinst=postinst, extra_depends=bb.data.expand('${PN}',d))
-	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, 'libgst(.*)\.l?a$', bb.data.expand('${PN}-%s-dev', d), 'GStreamer plugin for %s (development files)', extra_depends=bb.data.expand('${PN}-dev',d))
+	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, '^libgst(.*)\.so$', 'gst-plugin-%s', 'GStreamer plugin for %s', postinst=postinst, extra_depends='')
+	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, '^libgst(.*)\.l?a$', 'gst-plugin-%s-dev', 'GStreamer plugin for %s (development files)', extra_depends='')
 	
 	pn = bb.data.getVar('PN', d, 1)
 	metapkg =  pn + '-meta'
-- 
1.6.6.1




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* [RFC 2/2] gst-meta-base: adjust plugin names after gstreamer packaging changes
  2011-09-16  8:20 [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Koen Kooi
@ 2011-09-16  8:20 ` Koen Kooi
  2011-09-16 10:09 ` [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Richard Purdie
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2011-09-16  8:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: openembedded-core; +Cc: Koen Kooi

Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
---
 .../gstreamer/gst-meta-base_0.10.bb                |   50 ++++++++++----------
 1 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)

diff --git a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-meta-base_0.10.bb b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-meta-base_0.10.bb
index 1788104..ed80ac1 100644
--- a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-meta-base_0.10.bb
+++ b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-meta-base_0.10.bb
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ LIC_FILES_CHKSUM = "file://${COREBASE}/LICENSE;md5=3f40d7994397109285ec7b81fdeb3
                     file://${COREBASE}/meta/COPYING.MIT;md5=3da9cfbcb788c80a0384361b4de20420"
 
 
-PR = "r10"
+PR = "r11"
 
 PACKAGES = "\
     gst-meta-base \
@@ -17,43 +17,43 @@ ALLOW_EMPTY = "1"
 
 RDEPENDS_gst-meta-base = "\
     gstreamer \
-    gst-plugins-base-playbin \
-    gst-plugins-base-decodebin \
-    gst-plugins-base-decodebin2 \
-    gst-plugins-base-gio \
-    gst-plugins-base-alsa \
-    gst-plugins-base-volume \
-    gst-plugins-base-ximagesink \
-    gst-plugins-base-audioconvert \
-    gst-plugins-base-audioresample \
-    gst-plugins-base-typefindfunctions \
-    gst-plugins-base-videoscale \
-    gst-plugins-base-ffmpegcolorspace \
-    gst-plugins-good-autodetect \
-    gst-plugins-good-souphttpsrc"
+    gst-plugin-playbin \
+    gst-plugin-decodebin \
+    gst-plugin-decodebin2 \
+    gst-plugin-gio \
+    gst-plugin-alsa \
+    gst-plugin-volume \
+    gst-plugin-ximagesink \
+    gst-plugin-audioconvert \
+    gst-plugin-audioresample \
+    gst-plugin-typefindfunctions \
+    gst-plugin-videoscale \
+    gst-plugin-ffmpegcolorspace \
+    gst-plugin-autodetect \
+    gst-plugin-souphttpsrc"
 
 
 RDEPENDS_gst-meta-audio = "\
     gst-meta-base \
-    gst-plugins-base-vorbis \
-    gst-plugins-base-ogg \
-    gst-plugins-good-wavparse \
-    gst-plugins-good-flac \
+    gst-plugin-vorbis \
+    gst-plugin-ogg \
+    gst-plugin-wavparse \
+    gst-plugin-flac \
     ${COMMERCIAL_AUDIO_PLUGINS}"
 
 
 RDEPENDS_gst-meta-debug = "\
     gst-meta-base \
-    gst-plugins-good-debug \
-    gst-plugins-base-audiotestsrc \
-    gst-plugins-base-videotestsrc"
+    gst-plugin-debug \
+    gst-plugin-audiotestsrc \
+    gst-plugin-videotestsrc"
 
 
 RDEPENDS_gst-meta-video = "\
     gst-meta-base \
-    gst-plugins-good-avi \
-    gst-plugins-good-matroska \
-    gst-plugins-base-theora \
+    gst-plugin-avi \
+    gst-plugin-matroska \
+    gst-plugin-theora \
     ${COMMERCIAL_VIDEO_PLUGINS}"
 
 RRECOMMENDS_gst-meta-video = "\
-- 
1.6.6.1




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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-16  8:20 [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Koen Kooi
  2011-09-16  8:20 ` [RFC 2/2] gst-meta-base: adjust plugin names after gstreamer packaging changes Koen Kooi
@ 2011-09-16 10:09 ` Richard Purdie
  2011-09-16 10:19   ` Martin Jansa
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-09-16 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer; +Cc: Koen Kooi

On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> some text here

It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
"""
NAK

<insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
"""

We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is that if we
apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good, the bad
and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an image.
This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a given
build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.

If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to move to a
situation where we list which plugins each of the packages builds and
drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I don't take
that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
suggestions though.

Cheers,

Richard

> Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> ---
>  .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc              |    4 ++--
>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
> index 796df14..dae9416 100644
> --- a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
> +++ b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
> @@ -6,8 +6,8 @@ python populate_packages_prepend () {
>  	glibdir = bb.data.expand('${libdir}', d)
>  
>  	do_split_packages(d, glibdir, '^lib(.*)\.so\.*', 'lib%s', 'gstreamer %s library', extra_depends='', allow_links=True)
> -	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, 'libgst(.*)\.so$', bb.data.expand('${PN}-%s', d), 'GStreamer plugin for %s', postinst=postinst, extra_depends=bb.data.expand('${PN}',d))
> -	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, 'libgst(.*)\.l?a$', bb.data.expand('${PN}-%s-dev', d), 'GStreamer plugin for %s (development files)', extra_depends=bb.data.expand('${PN}-dev',d))
> +	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, '^libgst(.*)\.so$', 'gst-plugin-%s', 'GStreamer plugin for %s', postinst=postinst, extra_depends='')
> +	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, '^libgst(.*)\.l?a$', 'gst-plugin-%s-dev', 'GStreamer plugin for %s (development files)', extra_depends='')
>  	
>  	pn = bb.data.getVar('PN', d, 1)
>  	metapkg =  pn + '-meta'





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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-16 10:09 ` [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Richard Purdie
@ 2011-09-16 10:19   ` Martin Jansa
  2011-09-16 11:00     ` Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Martin Jansa @ 2011-09-16 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer; +Cc: Koen Kooi

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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09:49AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > some text here
> 
> It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
> """
> NAK
> 
> <insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
> """
> 
> We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is that if we
> apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good, the bad
> and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an image.
> This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a given
> build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
> non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.
> 
> If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to move to a
> situation where we list which plugins each of the packages builds and
> drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I don't take
> that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
> suggestions though.

Something like:
http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031739.html
http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031740.html
?

Regards,

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> > ---
> >  .../gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc              |    4 ++--
> >  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
> > index 796df14..dae9416 100644
> > --- a/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
> > +++ b/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer/gst-plugins-package.inc
> > @@ -6,8 +6,8 @@ python populate_packages_prepend () {
> >  	glibdir = bb.data.expand('${libdir}', d)
> >  
> >  	do_split_packages(d, glibdir, '^lib(.*)\.so\.*', 'lib%s', 'gstreamer %s library', extra_depends='', allow_links=True)
> > -	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, 'libgst(.*)\.so$', bb.data.expand('${PN}-%s', d), 'GStreamer plugin for %s', postinst=postinst, extra_depends=bb.data.expand('${PN}',d))
> > -	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, 'libgst(.*)\.l?a$', bb.data.expand('${PN}-%s-dev', d), 'GStreamer plugin for %s (development files)', extra_depends=bb.data.expand('${PN}-dev',d))
> > +	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, '^libgst(.*)\.so$', 'gst-plugin-%s', 'GStreamer plugin for %s', postinst=postinst, extra_depends='')
> > +	do_split_packages(d, gst_libdir, '^libgst(.*)\.l?a$', 'gst-plugin-%s-dev', 'GStreamer plugin for %s (development files)', extra_depends='')
> >  	
> >  	pn = bb.data.getVar('PN', d, 1)
> >  	metapkg =  pn + '-meta'
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Openembedded-core mailing list
> Openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-core

-- 
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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-16 10:19   ` Martin Jansa
@ 2011-09-16 11:00     ` Richard Purdie
  2011-09-16 11:06       ` Phil Blundell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-09-16 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer; +Cc: Koen Kooi

On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:19 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09:49AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > > some text here
> > 
> > It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
> > """
> > NAK
> > 
> > <insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
> > """
> > 
> > We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is that if we
> > apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good, the bad
> > and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an image.
> > This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a given
> > build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
> > non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.
> > 
> > If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to move to a
> > situation where we list which plugins each of the packages builds and
> > drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I don't take
> > that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
> > suggestions though.
> 
> Something like:
> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031739.html
> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031740.html
> ?

Yes. I'd probably have written separate .inc files to simplify the
script but I'm thinking along those lines. I'm not particularly happy
about it but I don't see many other options.

Cheers,

Richard




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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-16 11:00     ` Richard Purdie
@ 2011-09-16 11:06       ` Phil Blundell
  2011-09-16 13:38         ` Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Phil Blundell @ 2011-09-16 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer; +Cc: Koen Kooi

On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:00 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:19 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09:49AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > > > some text here
> > > 
> > > It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
> > > """
> > > NAK
> > > 
> > > <insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
> > > """
> > > 
> > > We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is that if we
> > > apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good, the bad
> > > and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an image.
> > > This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a given
> > > build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
> > > non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.
> > > 
> > > If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to move to a
> > > situation where we list which plugins each of the packages builds and
> > > drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I don't take
> > > that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
> > > suggestions though.
> > 
> > Something like:
> > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031739.html
> > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031740.html
> > ?
> 
> Yes. I'd probably have written separate .inc files to simplify the
> script but I'm thinking along those lines. I'm not particularly happy
> about it but I don't see many other options.

Last time this issue came up we talked about simply merging the -good,
-bad and -base plugins into a single recipe (since there appears to be
no very compelling reason to keep them separate) and just leaving the
-ugly ones on their own.  That still seems to me as though it is the
best way of making a lot of that complexity just go away.  Then
something like Martin's script could be used to figure out the (mostly
static, with a bit of luck) split between -ugly and the rest.

p.





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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-16 11:06       ` Phil Blundell
@ 2011-09-16 13:38         ` Richard Purdie
  2011-09-22 11:32           ` Koen Kooi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-09-16 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer; +Cc: Koen Kooi

On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:06 +0100, Phil Blundell wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:00 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:19 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09:49AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> > > > > some text here
> > > > 
> > > > It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
> > > > """
> > > > NAK
> > > > 
> > > > <insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
> > > > """
> > > > 
> > > > We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is that if we
> > > > apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good, the bad
> > > > and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an image.
> > > > This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a given
> > > > build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
> > > > non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.
> > > > 
> > > > If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to move to a
> > > > situation where we list which plugins each of the packages builds and
> > > > drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I don't take
> > > > that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
> > > > suggestions though.
> > > 
> > > Something like:
> > > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031739.html
> > > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031740.html
> > > ?
> > 
> > Yes. I'd probably have written separate .inc files to simplify the
> > script but I'm thinking along those lines. I'm not particularly happy
> > about it but I don't see many other options.
> 
> Last time this issue came up we talked about simply merging the -good,
> -bad and -base plugins into a single recipe (since there appears to be
> no very compelling reason to keep them separate) and just leaving the
> -ugly ones on their own.  That still seems to me as though it is the
> best way of making a lot of that complexity just go away.  Then
> something like Martin's script could be used to figure out the (mostly
> static, with a bit of luck) split between -ugly and the rest.

When put like this it doesn't sound so attractive since you need the
scripts for ugly anyway. Keeping them separate does actually help build
time at least since the plugins are one of the last things to get built
and if merged, you also have to merge all the dependencies, compounding
the build time.

Cheers,

Richard




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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-16 13:38         ` Richard Purdie
@ 2011-09-22 11:32           ` Koen Kooi
  2011-09-26 18:38             ` Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Koen Kooi @ 2011-09-22 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Purdie; +Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer


Op 16 sep 2011, om 15:38 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven:

> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:06 +0100, Phil Blundell wrote:
>> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:00 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:19 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09:49AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>>>> some text here
>>>>>
>>>>> It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
>>>>> """
>>>>> NAK
>>>>>
>>>>> <insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
>>>>> """
>>>>>
>>>>> We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is  
>>>>> that if we
>>>>> apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good,  
>>>>> the bad
>>>>> and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an  
>>>>> image.
>>>>> This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a  
>>>>> given
>>>>> build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
>>>>> non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to  
>>>>> move to a
>>>>> situation where we list which plugins each of the packages  
>>>>> builds and
>>>>> drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I  
>>>>> don't take
>>>>> that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
>>>>> suggestions though.
>>>>
>>>> Something like:
>>>> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031739.html
>>>> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031740.html
>>>> ?
>>>
>>> Yes. I'd probably have written separate .inc files to simplify the
>>> script but I'm thinking along those lines. I'm not particularly  
>>> happy
>>> about it but I don't see many other options.
>>
>> Last time this issue came up we talked about simply merging the - 
>> good,
>> -bad and -base plugins into a single recipe (since there appears to  
>> be
>> no very compelling reason to keep them separate) and just leaving the
>> -ugly ones on their own.  That still seems to me as though it is the
>> best way of making a lot of that complexity just go away.  Then
>> something like Martin's script could be used to figure out the  
>> (mostly
>> static, with a bit of luck) split between -ugly and the rest.
>
> When put like this it doesn't sound so attractive since you need the
> scripts for ugly anyway. Keeping them separate does actually help  
> build
> time at least since the plugins are one of the last things to get  
> built
> and if merged, you also have to merge all the dependencies,  
> compounding
> the build time.

If someone can tell me which solution is preferred I can start working  
on patches :)

regards,

Koen



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* Re: [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev
  2011-09-22 11:32           ` Koen Kooi
@ 2011-09-26 18:38             ` Richard Purdie
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Richard Purdie @ 2011-09-26 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Koen Kooi; +Cc: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer

On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 13:32 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> Op 16 sep 2011, om 15:38 heeft Richard Purdie het volgende geschreven:
> 
> > On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:06 +0100, Phil Blundell wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:00 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 12:19 +0200, Martin Jansa wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:09:49AM +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:20 +0200, Koen Kooi wrote:
> >>>>>> some text here
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It took all my restraint to not just reply with:
> >>>>> """
> >>>>> NAK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <insert reason for NAK here, I can't be bothered to type it>
> >>>>> """
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We've been around in a few circles with this. The problem is  
> >>>>> that if we
> >>>>> apply this patch we have no clue which gst-plugin from the good,  
> >>>>> the bad
> >>>>> and the ugly provides something you're after to include in an  
> >>>>> image.
> >>>>> This results in bitbake being pretty clueless about whether a  
> >>>>> given
> >>>>> build will succeed or not. In general I'm not a fan of having
> >>>>> non-deterministic builds as they tend to annoy users.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If this position isn't acceptable then we'll probably have to  
> >>>>> move to a
> >>>>> situation where we list which plugins each of the packages  
> >>>>> builds and
> >>>>> drop the dyanmic provides. That is a maintenance pain and I  
> >>>>> don't take
> >>>>> that step lightly but I don't see any other options. I'm open to
> >>>>> suggestions though.
> >>>>
> >>>> Something like:
> >>>> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031739.html
> >>>> http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-April/031740.html
> >>>> ?
> >>>
> >>> Yes. I'd probably have written separate .inc files to simplify the
> >>> script but I'm thinking along those lines. I'm not particularly  
> >>> happy
> >>> about it but I don't see many other options.
> >>
> >> Last time this issue came up we talked about simply merging the - 
> >> good,
> >> -bad and -base plugins into a single recipe (since there appears to  
> >> be
> >> no very compelling reason to keep them separate) and just leaving the
> >> -ugly ones on their own.  That still seems to me as though it is the
> >> best way of making a lot of that complexity just go away.  Then
> >> something like Martin's script could be used to figure out the  
> >> (mostly
> >> static, with a bit of luck) split between -ugly and the rest.
> >
> > When put like this it doesn't sound so attractive since you need the
> > scripts for ugly anyway. Keeping them separate does actually help  
> > build
> > time at least since the plugins are one of the last things to get  
> > built
> > and if merged, you also have to merge all the dependencies,  
> > compounding
> > the build time.
> 
> If someone can tell me which solution is preferred I can start working  
> on patches :)

I'm preferring the script generating the list of provides for the
gstreamer recipe...

Cheers,

Richard




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2011-09-16  8:20 [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Koen Kooi
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2011-09-16 10:09 ` [RFC 1/2] gstreamer: sync packaging with OE .dev Richard Purdie
2011-09-16 10:19   ` Martin Jansa
2011-09-16 11:00     ` Richard Purdie
2011-09-16 11:06       ` Phil Blundell
2011-09-16 13:38         ` Richard Purdie
2011-09-22 11:32           ` Koen Kooi
2011-09-26 18:38             ` Richard Purdie

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