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* Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
@ 2012-01-31 11:51 Ian Campbell
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From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-31 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel

This weeks update. Please send me corrections (especially
"done"). Lots of DONE this week, nice to see. We've had patches posted
for most of the blockers too AFAICT.

hypervisor, blockers:

      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
        required than first thought, patches posted)
      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
              * mem event ring management DONE
              * sharing patches posted

tools, blockers:

      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
        this are:
              * event handling (Ian J, DONE)
              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
                elsewhere as appropriate). (Ian Campbell, patches
                posted, repost pending).
              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
                repost pending)
              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
                not a tuple of lists. (Ian Campbell, patches posted,
                repost pending)
      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
        default (Ian Campbell, patch posted, repost pending)
      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli, DONE)
      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
        Dunlap)
      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (Stefano, DONE).
        No change in default qemu for 4.2.
      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
        remind people to test xl.

hypervisor, nice to have:

      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- DONE)

tools, nice to have:

      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going. patches posted?)
      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
        Pau Monet)
      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, general
        agrement that this shouldn't be blocked by autoconf but that we
        probably will take both)
      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
      * Initial xl support for Remus (memory checkpoint, blackholing)
        (Shriram, patches posted)

Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:

      * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch, we'll probably take
        this for 4.2)

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 15:55             ` Keir Fraser
@ 2012-01-26 14:57               ` Roger Pau Monné
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From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2012-01-26 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel, Ian Campbell

2012/1/25 Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>:
> I've removed them.

Thanks!

>  -- Keir
>
>

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 15:40           ` Ian Campbell
@ 2012-01-25 15:55             ` Keir Fraser
  2012-01-26 14:57               ` Roger Pau Monné
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Keir Fraser @ 2012-01-25 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell, Roger Pau Monné; +Cc: xen-devel

On 25/01/2012 15:40, "Ian Campbell" <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 15:03 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:

> I'm not really
> sure latex is skipped if not found:
> 
> # make -C docs
> make: Entering
> directory `/root/xen-work/docs'
> latex src/user.tex >/dev/null
> /bin/sh:
> latex: not found
> make: *** [user.dvi] Error 127
> make: Leaving directory
> `/root/xen-work/docs'
> 
> Either we remove the latex docs or we add some
> checks to skip the
> sections that require latex.

Ah, I was looking at
> latex2html and missed the raw latex command, sorry.
Yes we should gate them,
> or remove them as Keir
> suggests.

Ian.



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> list
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I've removed them.

 -- Keir

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 14:57       ` Keir Fraser
@ 2012-01-25 15:41         ` Ian Campbell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-25 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keir Fraser; +Cc: Roger Pau Monné, xen-devel

On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:57 +0000, Keir Fraser wrote:
> I'm dubious whether the latex docs are at all useful these days. We
> could possibly just remove them entirely. 

Or at least not build them by default. Personally I'm happy to have them
removed.

Ian.

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 15:03         ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2012-01-25 15:40           ` Ian Campbell
  2012-01-25 15:55             ` Keir Fraser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-25 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roger Pau Monné; +Cc: xen-devel

On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 15:03 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:

> I'm not really sure latex is skipped if not found:
> 
> # make -C docs
> make: Entering directory `/root/xen-work/docs'
> latex src/user.tex >/dev/null
> /bin/sh: latex: not found
> make: *** [user.dvi] Error 127
> make: Leaving directory `/root/xen-work/docs'
> 
> Either we remove the latex docs or we add some checks to skip the
> sections that require latex.

Ah, I was looking at latex2html and missed the raw latex command, sorry.
Yes we should gate them, or remove them as Keir suggests.

Ian.



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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 14:59       ` Ian Campbell
@ 2012-01-25 15:03         ` Roger Pau Monné
  2012-01-25 15:40           ` Ian Campbell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2012-01-25 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell; +Cc: xen-devel

2012/1/25 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:49 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>> 2012/1/25 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
>> > On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:33 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>> >> 2012/1/23 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
>> >> > Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
>> >> > "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
>> >> > the majority.
>> >> >
>> >> > hypervisor, blockers:
>> >> >
>> >> >      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
>> >> >        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
>> >> >        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
>> >> >        required than first thought, patches posted)
>> >> >      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>> >> >        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
>> >> >      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
>> >> >        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
>> >> >        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
>> >> >              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
>> >> >                in.
>> >> >              * sharing patches posted
>> >> >
>> >> > tools, blockers:
>> >> >
>> >> >      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
>> >> >        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
>> >> >        this are:
>> >> >              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
>> >> >                nearing completion?)
>> >> >              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
>> >> >                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
>> >> >              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
>> >> >                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
>> >> >                first RFC sent)
>> >> >              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
>> >> >                not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
>> >> >                not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
>> >> >                change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
>> >> >      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
>> >> >        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
>> >> >      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
>> >> >      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
>> >> >        Dunlap)
>> >> >      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
>> >> >        reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
>> >> >      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
>> >> >        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
>> >> >        remind people to test xl.
>> >> >
>> >> > hypervisor, nice to have:
>> >> >
>> >> >      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
>> >> >        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
>> >> >      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
>> >> >        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
>> >> >      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
>> >> >        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)
>> >> >
>> >> > tools, nice to have:
>> >> >
>> >> >      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
>> >> >        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
>> >> >        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
>> >> >        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
>> >> >      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
>> >> >        Pau Monet)
>> >> >      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
>> >> >        autoconf?)
>> >> >      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
>> >> >      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
>> >> >              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
>> >> >              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
>> >> >      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
>> >> >        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
>> >> >        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just a random thought, but I find it quite annoying to need latex to
>> >> compile the documentation. I think it will be wise to create a new
>> >> Makefile target, like man-pages and install-man-pages to allow the
>> >> user to build and install man pages only (or don't abort docs build if
>> >> latex is not found). Personally I don't have latex on my server, and I
>> >> don't want to install it, but I would like to have the man pages when
>> >> building Xen from source.
>> >
>> > "make -C docs man-pages" will do what you want.
>>
>> Thanks, I've already done this to build them on my system, but I think
>> we should provide some easy way for users without latex to build and
>> install the man pages.
>
> It's hard to get much easier, but...
>
>> > I must admit I thought latex was optional and that "make docs" would
>> > simply skip those docs if it wasn't installed -- that's what the "if
>> > which $(TOOL)" construct used in there is (supposed to be) doing.
>>
>> If latex is not found, the compilation is aborted:
>>
>> # make docs
>> sh ./docs/check_pkgs && make -C docs install || true
>> =================================================
>> =================================================
>> = WARNING: Package 'latex' is required
>> =          to build Xen documentation
>> =================================================
>> =================================================
>>
>> I think make docs should just skip latex if not found.
>
> Looks like it is simply the check which is too strict. AFAICT the actual
> docs build already skips those docs if you don't have Latex. You can
> test this with "make -C docs" which is basically the same as "make docs"
> but without the checks.

I'm not really sure latex is skipped if not found:

# make -C docs
make: Entering directory `/root/xen-work/docs'
latex src/user.tex >/dev/null
/bin/sh: latex: not found
make: *** [user.dvi] Error 127
make: Leaving directory `/root/xen-work/docs'

Either we remove the latex docs or we add some checks to skip the
sections that require latex.

>
> Ian.
>
>

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 14:49     ` Roger Pau Monné
  2012-01-25 14:57       ` Keir Fraser
@ 2012-01-25 14:59       ` Ian Campbell
  2012-01-25 15:03         ` Roger Pau Monné
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-25 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roger Pau Monné; +Cc: xen-devel

On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:49 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> 2012/1/25 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> > On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:33 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> >> 2012/1/23 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> >> > Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
> >> > "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
> >> > the majority.
> >> >
> >> > hypervisor, blockers:
> >> >
> >> >      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
> >> >        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
> >> >        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
> >> >        required than first thought, patches posted)
> >> >      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
> >> >        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
> >> >      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
> >> >        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
> >> >        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
> >> >              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
> >> >                in.
> >> >              * sharing patches posted
> >> >
> >> > tools, blockers:
> >> >
> >> >      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
> >> >        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
> >> >        this are:
> >> >              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
> >> >                nearing completion?)
> >> >              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
> >> >                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
> >> >              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
> >> >                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
> >> >                first RFC sent)
> >> >              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
> >> >                not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
> >> >                not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
> >> >                change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
> >> >      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
> >> >        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
> >> >      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
> >> >      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
> >> >        Dunlap)
> >> >      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
> >> >        reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
> >> >      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
> >> >        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
> >> >        remind people to test xl.
> >> >
> >> > hypervisor, nice to have:
> >> >
> >> >      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
> >> >        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
> >> >      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
> >> >        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
> >> >      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
> >> >        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)
> >> >
> >> > tools, nice to have:
> >> >
> >> >      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
> >> >        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
> >> >        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
> >> >        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
> >> >      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
> >> >        Pau Monet)
> >> >      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
> >> >        autoconf?)
> >> >      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
> >> >      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
> >> >              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
> >> >              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
> >> >      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
> >> >        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
> >> >        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
> >>
> >>
> >> Just a random thought, but I find it quite annoying to need latex to
> >> compile the documentation. I think it will be wise to create a new
> >> Makefile target, like man-pages and install-man-pages to allow the
> >> user to build and install man pages only (or don't abort docs build if
> >> latex is not found). Personally I don't have latex on my server, and I
> >> don't want to install it, but I would like to have the man pages when
> >> building Xen from source.
> >
> > "make -C docs man-pages" will do what you want.
> 
> Thanks, I've already done this to build them on my system, but I think
> we should provide some easy way for users without latex to build and
> install the man pages.

It's hard to get much easier, but...

> > I must admit I thought latex was optional and that "make docs" would
> > simply skip those docs if it wasn't installed -- that's what the "if
> > which $(TOOL)" construct used in there is (supposed to be) doing.
> 
> If latex is not found, the compilation is aborted:
> 
> # make docs
> sh ./docs/check_pkgs && make -C docs install || true
> =================================================
> =================================================
> = WARNING: Package 'latex' is required
> =          to build Xen documentation
> =================================================
> =================================================
> 
> I think make docs should just skip latex if not found.

Looks like it is simply the check which is too strict. AFAICT the actual
docs build already skips those docs if you don't have Latex. You can
test this with "make -C docs" which is basically the same as "make docs"
but without the checks.

Ian.



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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 14:49     ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2012-01-25 14:57       ` Keir Fraser
  2012-01-25 15:41         ` Ian Campbell
  2012-01-25 14:59       ` Ian Campbell
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Keir Fraser @ 2012-01-25 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roger Pau Monné, Ian Campbell; +Cc: xen-devel

On 25/01/2012 14:49, "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@entel.upc.edu> wrote:

>>> don't want to install it, but I would like to have the man pages when
>>
>>> building Xen from source.
>
> "make -C docs man-pages" will do what you
>>> want.

Thanks, I've already done this to build them on my system, but I
>>> think
we should provide some easy way for users without latex to build
>>> and
install the man pages.

> I must admit I thought latex was optional and
>>> that "make docs" would
> simply skip those docs if it wasn't installed --
>>> that's what the "if
> which $(TOOL)" construct used in there is (supposed to
>>> be) doing.

If latex is not found, the compilation is aborted:

# make
>>> docs
sh ./docs/check_pkgs && make -C docs install ||
>>> true
=================================================
=====================
>>> ============================
= WARNING: Package 'latex' is required
=
>>> to build Xen 
>>> documentation
=================================================
============
>>> =====================================

I think make docs should just skip
>>> latex if not found.

I'm dubious whether the latex docs are at all useful these days. We could
possibly just remove them entirely.

 -- Keir

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 14:41   ` Ian Campbell
@ 2012-01-25 14:49     ` Roger Pau Monné
  2012-01-25 14:57       ` Keir Fraser
  2012-01-25 14:59       ` Ian Campbell
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2012-01-25 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell; +Cc: xen-devel

2012/1/25 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:33 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>> 2012/1/23 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
>> > Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
>> > "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
>> > the majority.
>> >
>> > hypervisor, blockers:
>> >
>> >      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
>> >        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
>> >        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
>> >        required than first thought, patches posted)
>> >      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>> >        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
>> >      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
>> >        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
>> >        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
>> >              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
>> >                in.
>> >              * sharing patches posted
>> >
>> > tools, blockers:
>> >
>> >      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
>> >        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
>> >        this are:
>> >              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
>> >                nearing completion?)
>> >              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
>> >                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
>> >              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
>> >                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
>> >                first RFC sent)
>> >              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
>> >                not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
>> >                not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
>> >                change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
>> >      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
>> >        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
>> >      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
>> >      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
>> >        Dunlap)
>> >      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
>> >        reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
>> >      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
>> >        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
>> >        remind people to test xl.
>> >
>> > hypervisor, nice to have:
>> >
>> >      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
>> >        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
>> >      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
>> >        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
>> >      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
>> >        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)
>> >
>> > tools, nice to have:
>> >
>> >      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
>> >        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
>> >        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
>> >        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
>> >      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
>> >        Pau Monet)
>> >      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
>> >        autoconf?)
>> >      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
>> >      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
>> >              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
>> >              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
>> >      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
>> >        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
>> >        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
>>
>>
>> Just a random thought, but I find it quite annoying to need latex to
>> compile the documentation. I think it will be wise to create a new
>> Makefile target, like man-pages and install-man-pages to allow the
>> user to build and install man pages only (or don't abort docs build if
>> latex is not found). Personally I don't have latex on my server, and I
>> don't want to install it, but I would like to have the man pages when
>> building Xen from source.
>
> "make -C docs man-pages" will do what you want.

Thanks, I've already done this to build them on my system, but I think
we should provide some easy way for users without latex to build and
install the man pages.

> I must admit I thought latex was optional and that "make docs" would
> simply skip those docs if it wasn't installed -- that's what the "if
> which $(TOOL)" construct used in there is (supposed to be) doing.

If latex is not found, the compilation is aborted:

# make docs
sh ./docs/check_pkgs && make -C docs install || true
=================================================
=================================================
= WARNING: Package 'latex' is required
=          to build Xen documentation
=================================================
=================================================

I think make docs should just skip latex if not found.

>
> Ian.
>
>>
>> > Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:
>> >
>> >      * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch)
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Xen-devel mailing list
>> > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
>> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
>
>

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-25 14:33 ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2012-01-25 14:41   ` Ian Campbell
  2012-01-25 14:49     ` Roger Pau Monné
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-25 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Roger Pau Monné; +Cc: xen-devel

On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 14:33 +0000, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> 2012/1/23 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> > Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
> > "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
> > the majority.
> >
> > hypervisor, blockers:
> >
> >      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
> >        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
> >        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
> >        required than first thought, patches posted)
> >      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
> >        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
> >      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
> >        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
> >        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
> >              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
> >                in.
> >              * sharing patches posted
> >
> > tools, blockers:
> >
> >      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
> >        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
> >        this are:
> >              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
> >                nearing completion?)
> >              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
> >                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
> >              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
> >                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
> >                first RFC sent)
> >              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
> >                not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
> >                not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
> >                change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
> >      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
> >        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
> >      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
> >      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
> >        Dunlap)
> >      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
> >        reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
> >      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
> >        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
> >        remind people to test xl.
> >
> > hypervisor, nice to have:
> >
> >      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
> >        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
> >      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
> >        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
> >      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
> >        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)
> >
> > tools, nice to have:
> >
> >      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
> >        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
> >        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
> >        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
> >      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
> >        Pau Monet)
> >      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
> >        autoconf?)
> >      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
> >      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
> >              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
> >              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
> >      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
> >        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
> >        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
> 
> 
> Just a random thought, but I find it quite annoying to need latex to
> compile the documentation. I think it will be wise to create a new
> Makefile target, like man-pages and install-man-pages to allow the
> user to build and install man pages only (or don't abort docs build if
> latex is not found). Personally I don't have latex on my server, and I
> don't want to install it, but I would like to have the man pages when
> building Xen from source.

"make -C docs man-pages" will do what you want.

I must admit I thought latex was optional and that "make docs" would
simply skip those docs if it wasn't installed -- that's what the "if
which $(TOOL)" construct used in there is (supposed to be) doing.

Ian.

> 
> > Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:
> >
> >      * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Xen-devel mailing list
> > Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel



_______________________________________________
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Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-23 13:19 Ian Campbell
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-01-24 14:31 ` Juergen Gross
@ 2012-01-25 14:33 ` Roger Pau Monné
  2012-01-25 14:41   ` Ian Campbell
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2012-01-25 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell; +Cc: xen-devel

2012/1/23 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
> "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
> the majority.
>
> hypervisor, blockers:
>
>      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
>        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
>        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
>        required than first thought, patches posted)
>      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
>      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
>        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
>        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
>              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
>                in.
>              * sharing patches posted
>
> tools, blockers:
>
>      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
>        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
>        this are:
>              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
>                nearing completion?)
>              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
>                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
>              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
>                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
>                first RFC sent)
>              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
>                not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
>                not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
>                change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
>      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
>        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
>      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
>      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
>        Dunlap)
>      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
>        reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
>      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
>        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
>        remind people to test xl.
>
> hypervisor, nice to have:
>
>      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
>        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
>      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
>        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
>      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
>        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)
>
> tools, nice to have:
>
>      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
>        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
>        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
>        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
>      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
>        Pau Monet)
>      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
>        autoconf?)
>      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
>      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
>              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
>              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
>      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
>        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
>        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)


Just a random thought, but I find it quite annoying to need latex to
compile the documentation. I think it will be wise to create a new
Makefile target, like man-pages and install-man-pages to allow the
user to build and install man pages only (or don't abort docs build if
latex is not found). Personally I don't have latex on my server, and I
don't want to install it, but I would like to have the man pages when
building Xen from source.

> Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:
>
>      * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel

_______________________________________________
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Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-24 14:31 ` Juergen Gross
@ 2012-01-24 19:28   ` Shriram Rajagopalan
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Shriram Rajagopalan @ 2012-01-24 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juergen Gross; +Cc: xen-devel, Ian Campbell


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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com
> wrote:

> On 01/23/2012 02:19 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
>
>> Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
>> "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
>> the majority.
>>
>> hypervisor, blockers:
>>
>>       * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
>>         passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
>>         access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
>>         required than first thought, patches posted)
>>       * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>>         the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
>>       * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
>>         dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
>>         Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
>>               * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
>>                 in.
>>               * sharing patches posted
>>
>> tools, blockers:
>>
>>       * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
>>         which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
>>         this are:
>>               * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
>>                 nearing completion?)
>>               * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
>>                 elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
>>               * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
>>                 memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
>>                 first RFC sent)
>>               * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
>>                 not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
>>                 not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
>>                 change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
>>       * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
>>         default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
>>       * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
>>       * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
>>         Dunlap)
>>       * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
>>         reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
>>       * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
>>         tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
>>         remind people to test xl.
>>
>> hypervisor, nice to have:
>>
>>       * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
>>         queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
>>       * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
>>         lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
>>       * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
>>         membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)
>>
>
> Patches accepted (cs24549..24551)
>
>
>  tools, nice to have:
>>
>>       * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
>>         didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
>>         for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
>>         like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
>>       * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
>>         Pau Monet)
>>       * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
>>         autoconf?)
>>       * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
>>       * Upstream qemu feature patches:
>>               * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
>>               * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
>>       * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
>>         experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
>>         separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
>>
>>
             * Basic remus support in libxl.

I have sent the patches. If the block script patches get in on time, I
could add
disk checkpointing support too. That would leave only network buffering.


> Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:
>>
>>       * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch)
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
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>> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
>> http://lists.xensource.com/**xen-devel<http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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> PDG ES&S SWE OS6                       Telephone: +49 (0) 89 3222 2967
> Fujitsu Technology Solutions              e-mail:
> juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com
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> ts.fujitsu.com/imprint.html
>
>
>
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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-23 13:19 Ian Campbell
  2012-01-23 16:07 ` Ian Campbell
  2012-01-23 18:22 ` Dario Faggioli
@ 2012-01-24 14:31 ` Juergen Gross
  2012-01-24 19:28   ` Shriram Rajagopalan
  2012-01-25 14:33 ` Roger Pau Monné
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juergen Gross @ 2012-01-24 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell; +Cc: xen-devel

On 01/23/2012 02:19 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
> "done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
> the majority.
>
> hypervisor, blockers:
>
>        * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
>          passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
>          access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
>          required than first thought, patches posted)
>        * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>          the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
>        * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
>          dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
>          Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
>                * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
>                  in.
>                * sharing patches posted
>
> tools, blockers:
>
>        * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
>          which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
>          this are:
>                * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
>                  nearing completion?)
>                * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
>                  elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
>                * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
>                  memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
>                  first RFC sent)
>                * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
>                  not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
>                  not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
>                  change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
>        * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
>          default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
>        * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
>        * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
>          Dunlap)
>        * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
>          reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
>        * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
>          tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
>          remind people to test xl.
>
> hypervisor, nice to have:
>
>        * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
>          queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
>        * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
>          lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
>        * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
>          membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)

Patches accepted (cs24549..24551)

> tools, nice to have:
>
>        * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
>          didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
>          for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
>          like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
>        * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
>          Pau Monet)
>        * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
>          autoconf?)
>        * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
>        * Upstream qemu feature patches:
>                * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
>                * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
>        * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
>          experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
>          separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
>
> Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:
>
>        * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
>
>


-- 
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PDG ES&S SWE OS6                       Telephone: +49 (0) 89 3222 2967
Fujitsu Technology Solutions              e-mail: juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com
Domagkstr. 28                           Internet: ts.fujitsu.com
D-80807 Muenchen                 Company details: ts.fujitsu.com/imprint.html

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-23 13:19 Ian Campbell
  2012-01-23 16:07 ` Ian Campbell
@ 2012-01-23 18:22 ` Dario Faggioli
  2012-01-24 14:31 ` Juergen Gross
  2012-01-25 14:33 ` Roger Pau Monné
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Dario Faggioli @ 2012-01-23 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell; +Cc: xen-devel


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On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 13:19 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote: 
> tools, blockers:
> 
> [..] 
>       * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
Patch sent, just right now.

Dario

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-23 13:19 Ian Campbell
@ 2012-01-23 16:07 ` Ian Campbell
  2012-01-23 18:22 ` Dario Faggioli
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-23 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel, George Dunlap

On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 13:19 +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
>       * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>         the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)

I mistakenly thought the schedule rate fix had been committed. This
should be it's own top-level blocker IMHO.

Ian.

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* Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
@ 2012-01-23 13:19 Ian Campbell
  2012-01-23 16:07 ` Ian Campbell
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-23 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel

Newly updated list follows. Please send me corrections (especially
"done"). I've stopped CCing everyone, since I guess it is mostly spam to
the majority. 

hypervisor, blockers:

      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich -- more fixes
        required than first thought, patches posted)
      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
        the credit1 timeslice and schedule rate. (George Dunlap)
      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
                in.
              * sharing patches posted

tools, blockers:

      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
        this are:
              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
                nearing completion?)
              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
                first RFC sent)
              * topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of tuples,
                not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking at this,
                not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly defer and
                change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
      * xl support for vcpu pinning (Dario Faggioli)
      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
        Dunlap)
      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (patches
        reposted, pending). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
        remind people to test xl.

hypervisor, nice to have:

      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
      * NUMA improvement: domain affinity consistent with cpupool
        membership (Dario Faggioli, Jeurgen Gross -- patch posted)

tools, nice to have:

      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
      * Block script support -- follows on from hotplug script (Roger
        Pau Monet)
      * libyajl v2 support (patch posted by Roger Pau Monet, blocked on
        autoconf?)
      * Configure/control paging via xl/libxl (Olaf Herring)
      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked
        experimental,likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm
        separate to nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)

Tools, need to decide if pre- or post-4.2 feature:

      * Autoconf (Roger Pau Monet posted a patch)

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-17 10:53 ` Olaf Hering
@ 2012-01-17 11:02   ` Ian Campbell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-17 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Olaf Hering
  Cc: xen-devel, Keir (Xen.org),
	Stefano Stabellini, George Dunlap, Ian Jackson, Tim (Xen.org),
	Roger Pau Monne, Andres Lagar-Cavilla, Jan Beulich,
	Anthony Perard

On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 10:53 +0000, Olaf Hering wrote:
> For libxl, it would be nice to have also libyajl2 support. OpenSuSE 11.4
> was the last version which shipped libyajl1, 12.1 and later seem to have
> just libyajl2.

Roger Pau Monet posted such a patch but it ended up depending on the
switch to autoconf. I will add those two to the next version of the TODO
list, as blockers unless someone objects.

Ian.

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* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-17 10:00 Ian Campbell
  2012-01-17 10:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
  2012-01-17 10:08 ` Olaf Hering
@ 2012-01-17 10:53 ` Olaf Hering
  2012-01-17 11:02   ` Ian Campbell
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2012-01-17 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell
  Cc: xen-devel, Keir Fraser, George Dunlap, Ian Jackson, Tim Deegan,
	Roger Pau Monne, Stefano Stabellini, Andres Lagar-Cavilla,
	Jan Beulich, Anthony Perard


For libxl, it would be nice to have also libyajl2 support. OpenSuSE 11.4
was the last version which shipped libyajl1, 12.1 and later seem to have
just libyajl2.

Olaf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-17 10:00 Ian Campbell
  2012-01-17 10:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
@ 2012-01-17 10:08 ` Olaf Hering
  2012-01-17 10:53 ` Olaf Hering
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Olaf Hering @ 2012-01-17 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell
  Cc: xen-devel, Keir Fraser, George Dunlap, Ian Jackson, Tim Deegan,
	Roger Pau Monne, Stefano Stabellini, Andres Lagar-Cavilla,
	Jan Beulich, Anthony Perard

On Tue, Jan 17, Ian Campbell wrote:

> I think I have incorporated all the updates made in the last thread as
> well as correctly reflected the status of each item. Please let me know
> if something is out of date e.g. if progress has been made which I
> haven't reflected below.

Now that paging is reasonable mature, it should be possible to configure
and tune it via libxl/xl in some way. There is some discussion going on
about how it could be done. I will follow up and prepare a patch.

Olaf

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread

* Re: Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
  2012-01-17 10:00 Ian Campbell
@ 2012-01-17 10:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
  2012-01-17 10:08 ` Olaf Hering
  2012-01-17 10:53 ` Olaf Hering
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Roger Pau Monné @ 2012-01-17 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ian Campbell
  Cc: Olaf Hering, xen-devel, Keir Fraser, George Dunlap, Ian Jackson,
	Tim Deegan, Stefano Stabellini, Andres Lagar-Cavilla,
	Jan Beulich, Anthony Perard

2012/1/17 Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>:
> An updated version of the list is below. Some items are marked "nice to
> have" meaning that we don't think they should block the release. I'll
> try and post an update on a semi-regular basis as and when things are
> completed.
>
> I think I have incorporated all the updates made in the last thread as
> well as correctly reflected the status of each item. Please let me know
> if something is out of date e.g. if progress has been made which I
> haven't reflected below.
>
> hypervisor, blockers:
>
>      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
>        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
>        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich, after upstream qemu
>        patch series also incorporates the respective recent qemu-xen
>        change)
>      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
>        the credit1 timeslice (and schedule rate, if that ever makes it
>        in). (George Dunlap)
>      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
>        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
>        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
>              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
>                in.
>              * sharing patches posted
>              *
>
> tools, blockers:
>
>      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
>        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
>        this are:
>              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
>                nearing completion?)
>              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
>                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
>              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
>                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
>                first RFC sent)
>              * The topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of
>                tuples, not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking
>                at this, not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly
>                defer and change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
>              * Block script support -- can be done post 4.2? should be
>                nice to have not blocker? Somewhere on IanJ's todo?

This is quite related to xl hotplug stuff, once the hotplug thing is
in, it should be trivial to add this.

>      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
>        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
>      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
>        Dunlap)
>      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (Stefano to
>        repost). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
>      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
>        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
>        remind people to test xl.
>
> hypervisor, nice to have:
>
>      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
>        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
>      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
>        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)
>
> tools, nice to have:
>
>      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
>        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
>        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
>        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
>      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
>              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
>              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
>      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked experimental,
>        likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm separate to
>        nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)
>
>
>

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* Xen 4.2 TODO List Update
@ 2012-01-17 10:00 Ian Campbell
  2012-01-17 10:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Ian Campbell @ 2012-01-17 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel
  Cc: Olaf Hering, Keir Fraser, George Dunlap, Ian Jackson, Tim Deegan,
	Roger Pau Monne, Stefano Stabellini, Andres Lagar-Cavilla,
	Jan Beulich, Anthony Perard

An updated version of the list is below. Some items are marked "nice to
have" meaning that we don't think they should block the release. I'll
try and post an update on a semi-regular basis as and when things are
completed.

I think I have incorporated all the updates made in the last thread as
well as correctly reflected the status of each item. Please let me know
if something is out of date e.g. if progress has been made which I
haven't reflected below.

hypervisor, blockers:

      * round-up of the closing of the security hole in MSI-X
        passthrough (uniformly - i.e. even for Dom0 - disallowing write
        access to MSI-X table pages). (Jan Beulich, after upstream qemu
        patch series also incorporates the respective recent qemu-xen
        change)
      * domctls / sysctls set up to modify scheduler parameters, like
        the credit1 timeslice (and schedule rate, if that ever makes it
        in). (George Dunlap)
      * get the interface changes for sharing/paging/mem-events done and
        dusted so that 4.2 is a stable API that we hold to. (Tim Deegan,
        Andres Lagar-Cavilla et al)
              * mem event ring management posted, seems close to going
                in.
              * sharing patches posted
              * 

tools, blockers:

      * libxl stable API -- we would like 4.2 to define a stable API
        which downstream's can start to rely on not changing. Aspects of
        this are:
              * event handling (Ian Jackson, posted several rounds,
                nearing completion?)
              * drop libxl_device_model_info (move bits to build_info or
                elsewhere as appropriate) (Ian Campbell, first RFC sent)
              * add libxl_defbool and generally try and arrange that
                memset(foo,0,...) requests the defaults (Ian Campbell,
                first RFC sent)
              * The topologyinfo datastructure should be a list of
                tuples, not a tuple of lists. (nobody currently looking
                at this, not 100% sure this makes sense, could possibly
                defer and change after 4.2 in a compatible way)
              * Block script support -- can be done post 4.2? should be
                nice to have not blocker? Somewhere on IanJ's todo?
      * xl to use json for machine readable output instead of sexp by
        default (Ian Campbell to revisit existing patch)
      * xl feature parity with xend wrt driver domain support (George
        Dunlap)
      * Integrate qemu+seabios upstream into the build (Stefano to
        repost). No change in default qemu for 4.2.
      * More formally deprecate xm/xend. Manpage patches already in
        tree. Needs release noting and communication around -rc1 to
        remind people to test xl.

hypervisor, nice to have:

      * solid implementation of sharing/paging/mem-events (using work
        queues) (Tim Deegan, Olaf Herring et al)
      * A long standing issue is a fully synchronized p2m (locking
        lookups) (Andres Lagar-Cavilla)

tools, nice to have:

      * Hotplug script stuff -- internal to libxl (I think, therefore I
        didn't put this under stable API above) but still good to have
        for 4.2? Roger Pau Monet was looking at this but its looking
        like a big can-o-worms. (discussion on-going)
      * Upstream qemu feature patches:
              * Upstream qemu PCI passthrough support (Anthony Perard)
              * Upstream qemu save restore (Anthony Perard)
      * Nested-virtualisation (currently should be marked experimental,
        likely to release that way? Consider nested-svm separate to
        nested-vmx. Nested-svm is in better shape)

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