All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:16:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1334409396.2528.100.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120405222024.GA19154@redhat.com>

On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 00:20 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Not for inclusion yet, only for the early review.
> 
> I didn't even try to test these changes, and I am not expert
> in this area. And even _if_ this code is correct, I need to
> re-split these changes anyway, update the changelogs, etc.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 	- does it make sense?

Maybe, upside is reclaiming that int from task_struct, downside is that
down_write :/ It would be very good not to have to do that. Nor do I
really see how that works.

> 	- can it work or I missed something "in general" ?

So we insert in the rb-tree before we take mmap_sem, this means we can
hit a non-uprobe int3 and still find a uprobe there, no?

> Why:
> 
> 	- It would be nice to remove a member from task_struct.
> 
> 	- Afaics, the usage of uprobes_srcu does not look right,
> 	  at least in theory, see 6/6.
> 
> 	  The comment above delete_uprobe() says:
> 
> 	  	The current unregistering thread waits till all
> 	  	other threads have hit a breakpoint, to acquire
> 	  	the uprobes_treelock before the uprobe is removed
> 	  	from the rbtree.
> 
> 	  but synchronize_srcu() can only help if a thread which
> 	  have hit the breakpoint has already called srcu_read_lock().
> 	  It can't synchronize with read_lock "in future", and there
> 	  is a small window.
> 
> 	  We could probably add another synchronize_sched() before
> 	  synchronize_srcu(), but this doesn't look very nice and

Right, I think that all was written with the assumption that sync_srcu
implied a sync_rcu, which of course we've recently wrecked.



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:16:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1334409396.2528.100.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120405222024.GA19154@redhat.com>

On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 00:20 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Not for inclusion yet, only for the early review.
> 
> I didn't even try to test these changes, and I am not expert
> in this area. And even _if_ this code is correct, I need to
> re-split these changes anyway, update the changelogs, etc.
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 	- does it make sense?

Maybe, upside is reclaiming that int from task_struct, downside is that
down_write :/ It would be very good not to have to do that. Nor do I
really see how that works.

> 	- can it work or I missed something "in general" ?

So we insert in the rb-tree before we take mmap_sem, this means we can
hit a non-uprobe int3 and still find a uprobe there, no?

> Why:
> 
> 	- It would be nice to remove a member from task_struct.
> 
> 	- Afaics, the usage of uprobes_srcu does not look right,
> 	  at least in theory, see 6/6.
> 
> 	  The comment above delete_uprobe() says:
> 
> 	  	The current unregistering thread waits till all
> 	  	other threads have hit a breakpoint, to acquire
> 	  	the uprobes_treelock before the uprobe is removed
> 	  	from the rbtree.
> 
> 	  but synchronize_srcu() can only help if a thread which
> 	  have hit the breakpoint has already called srcu_read_lock().
> 	  It can't synchronize with read_lock "in future", and there
> 	  is a small window.
> 
> 	  We could probably add another synchronize_sched() before
> 	  synchronize_srcu(), but this doesn't look very nice and

Right, I think that all was written with the assumption that sync_srcu
implied a sync_rcu, which of course we've recently wrecked.


--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-14 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-05 22:20 [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] uprobes: introduce find_active_uprobe() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] uprobes: introduce is_swbp_at_addr_fast() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 10:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 14:44     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:44       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 14:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 15:34         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 15:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 10:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 10:08             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 17:09             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 17:09               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 19:53               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 19:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] uprobes: teach find_active_uprobe() to provide the "is_swbp" info Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 4/6] uprobes: change register_for_each_vma() to take mm->mmap_sem for writing Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] uprobes: teach handle_swbp() to rely on "is_swbp" rather than uprobes_srcu Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 11:16 ` [RFC 0/6] " Ingo Molnar
2012-04-14 11:16   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-04-16 11:31   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-16 11:31     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-16 14:41     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:41       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:52       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-25 12:52         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-25 14:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 14:22           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-04-14 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 20:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 20:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 10:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 10:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 19:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 19:53         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 21:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 21:48           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 23:44           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 23:44             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 10:16               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 21:47               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 21:47                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 10:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 10:14                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 10:16                   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-20 10:16                     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-20 18:58                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:58                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:37                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:37                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23  7:14                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:24                       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-23  7:24                         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-23  7:40                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23  7:40                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 17:29                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 17:29                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 19:18                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 19:18                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 20:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 20:50                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 21:25                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 21:25                                   ` Oleg Nesterov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1334409396.2528.100.camel@twins \
    --to=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=acme@infradead.org \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=ananth@in.ibm.com \
    --cc=andi@firstfloor.org \
    --cc=anton@redhat.com \
    --cc=hch@infradead.org \
    --cc=jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=oleg@redhat.com \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.