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* [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
@ 2012-10-09 13:46 Thomas Gleixner
  2012-10-09 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2012-10-09 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LKML; +Cc: linux-rt-users

Dear RT Folks,

I'm pleased to announce the 3.6.1-rt1 release.

This is a pretty straight forward move from the 3.4-rt series which
includes a few significant updates which need to be backported to the
3.x-rt stable series:

   * Make interrupt randomness work again on RT. Based on the 3.x.y
     stable updates in that area. Should be applicable to all 3.x-rt
     series with almost no modifications.

   * RT softirq initialization sequence fix (Steven Rostedt)

   * Fix for a potential deadlock in mm/slab.c. This had been reported
     as lockdep splats several times and stupidly ignored as a false
     positive, but in fact it's a real (though almost impossible to
     trigger) deadlock lurking.

   * Use the proper local_lock primitives in mm/page_alloc.c. That's
     not a real bug, but this fixes an inconsistency which helps
     debugability and therefore is worthwhile to be backported.

   * RT-rwlock/rwsem annotations:

     RT does not allow multiple readers on rwlocks and rwsems. The
     lockdep annotations did not yet consider that fact. One might
     think that this is a complete RT specific issue, but it's
     not. The FIFO fair rwsem/lock modifications in mainline made
     reader/writer primitives prone to very subtle deadlock problems
     which cannot be detected by the current lockdep annotations in
     mainline. The reason is that if a writer interleaves with two
     readers it will block the second reader from proceeding in order
     not to allow writer starvation. The restricted RWlocks semantics
     of RT allow an easy detection of that problem. We already
     triggered a real deadlock in RT (see:
     peterz-srcu-crypto-chain.patch) which could result in a hard to
     trigger, but mainline relevant deadlock. Wait for more
     interesting problems in that area.

   * The output of might_sleep debugging is silent about the possible
     causes vs. the preempt count. Contrary to interrupt disabling
     there is zero information about what disabled preemption
     last. Again, not strictly a bugfix, but debuggability is key.

   * Fix a potentially deadly sto(m)p_machine deadlock. A CPU which
     calls that code from its inactive state (don't ask me for the
     ghastly deatils why this is necessary) can run into a contended
     state of the stomp machine mutex which would cause a rather
     awkward issue of idle scheduling itself away to idle as the only
     possible task on that upcoming cpu. Not pretty ....


There is also a worth to mention fundamental change in this release:

   * Split softirq locks

     In the pre 3,x-RT versions we spawned a separate thread for each
     softirq on each CPU. This served the PER_CPUness requirements,
     but did not provide any means against priority inversions
     vs. softirqs.

     With the start of the 3.0-rt series I decided to drop the per
     softirq threads for simplicity reasons as I had to deal with all
     the fallout of the migration disabling design I had taken course
     to.

     I got several complaints about the missing softirq thread split
     since then and a few patches to reestablish them. I refused to
     take those patches for a simple reason: configuration. It's
     extremly hard to get the parameters right for a RT system in
     general. Adding something which is obscure as soft interrupts to
     the system designers todo list is a bad idea.

     Now I spent quite some time on analysing the most urgent issues
     on RT:

     	  throughpout  versus  deterministism

     The interested observer may have noticed that deterministic
     behaviour and throughput are mutually exclusive properties, but
     in the 2.6 based RT series the split softirq implementation at
     least allowed some mitigation of this problem by adjusting the
     priorities, while the 3.x RT series did not provide a user
     tunable knob at all. Though the untunable behaviour of the 3.x RT
     series behaved in general better than the untuned 2.6 RT at least
     in terms of throughput.

     The reason is that 3.x RT put a big focus on dealing with the
     increasing PER_CPUness of data in the mainline kernel. The
     migrate_disable based ability of executing pending soft
     interrupts in any thread context which had raised a soft
     interrupt made RT a bit more similar to the mainline behaviour,
     but did not provide any serious means of controlling that
     behaviour.

     My new approach of split softirq locks is another (sigh) futile
     attempt to deal with the current (non)existing softirq semantics
     of the mainline kernel.

     What's the meaning of soft interrupt processing in Linux today?

     First of all, it's a conglomorate of mostly unrelated jobs, which
     run in the context of a randomly chosen victim w/o the ability to
     put any control on them. Softirq processing happens in three
     contexts:

     - Return from hard interrupt context. Basically the same as the
       hard interrupt context except that interrupts are enabled.

     - In the context of a thread which reenables softirq processing
       via local_bh_enable or *_unlock_bh. Interestingly enough
       reenabling interrupts does not have the same effect, though
       disabling interrupts prevents softirq processing as well and
       there are places which raise soft interrupt in interrupt
       disabled regions which delegates them to ksoftirqd or to the
       next random context which happens to reach a softirq processing
       context before ksoftirqd.

     - ksoftirqd. The invocation of ksoftirqd is not well defined. It
       happens when the above two contexts looped extensivly in the
       softirq processing or if a softirq gets raised outside of a
       hard interrupt context in a bottom half enabled region. Now
       even in the case that ksoftirqd has been woken up there is no
       guarantee, that it will actually process softinterrupts at all
       because the other two contexts can be invoked (again) before
       ksoftirqd gets scheduled in.

     Quite a set of imprecise rules and unclear semantics which
     explain the pain RT has with softirq processing.

     The pre 3.0-RT approach of delegating all softirq processing to
     separate per softirq threads is only a partial solution to the
     problem and introduces a hard to configure set of softirq thread
     scheduling policy and priority questions. Aside of that it does
     not allow to process soft interrupts from the tail of the
     interrupt threads or softirq enabling code.

     The 3.x-RT approach of allowing the softirq processing from the
     tail of interrupt threads or softirq enabling code gave us a
     throughput enhancement and got rid of the configuration
     complexity, but we lost the ability to optimize for specific use
     cases (e.g. deterministic networking).
     
     After studying the softirq behaviour I came to the conclusion
     that it might be interesting to try a different approach.
     Especially networking handles the softirq processing either in
     the interrupt tail or from bh enabling thread contexts.

     So instead of splitting the softirq threads I split the softirq
     locks so different softirqs can be handled seperately. If a
     softirq is raised in the context of a thread, then its noted in
     the task struct and when the thread leaves the bh disabled
     section it handles this particular soft interrupt in its own
     context. This removes the burden of running completely unrelated
     softirqs like timers, tasklets etc. from a context which raised a
     network soft interrupt. That way the softirq processing is
     coupled to the originating thread and its scheduling properties,
     so the need for finding optimal parameters should be gone.

     Now this only works for soft interrupts which are raised in the
     context of a thread. Unfortunately there is no way to do the same
     for soft interrupts which are raised in hard interrupt context
     (e.g. RCU, timers). They have no thread associated and are
     therefor delegated to ksoftirqd. This is ok, except that it does
     not help people who want to use signal based timers, but that
     problem needs to be solved by moving the complex handling into
     the context of the thread which is going to receive the signal
     and should vanish from the softirq processing completely.
     
     In principle we should have even in mainline a clear separation
     of which soft interrupts are disabled by a particular code region
     instead of disabling them wholesale. Though the nicest solution
     would be to get rid of them completely :)
 
     Give it proper testing and lemme know whether this solves your
     particular problems which arised from giving up the separate
     softirq threads. Don't complain about signal based timers - see
     above!

The RT patch against 3.6.1 can be found here:

  http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.6/patch-3.6.1-rt1.patch.xz

The split quilt queue is available at:

  http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.4/patches-3.6.1-rt1.tar.xz

Enjoy,

	tglx

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 13:46 [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
@ 2012-10-09 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 16:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
  2012-10-09 18:08 ` Steven Rostedt
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-09 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users, Carsten Emde

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:46 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Dear RT Folks,
> 
> I'm pleased to announce the 3.6.1-rt1 release.

Thomas,

First I want to say, and I'm sure I speak for a lot of people on this,
is "Thank you!". I know how hard it is to deal with the issues of
mainline in a RT specific way, and to balance both the determinism
required by RT with the non-intrusiveness to the work flow of mainline.
When this is done right, both mainline and RT benefit. Interesting
enough, Linus knew this a long time ago, and by denying RT only
enhancements to the kernel, he forced us to improve mainline in
general ;-)

> 
> This is a pretty straight forward move from the 3.4-rt series which
> includes a few significant updates which need to be backported to the
> 3.x-rt stable series:
> 
>    * Make interrupt randomness work again on RT. Based on the 3.x.y
>      stable updates in that area. Should be applicable to all 3.x-rt
>      series with almost no modifications.
> 
>    * RT softirq initialization sequence fix (Steven Rostedt)
> 
>    * Fix for a potential deadlock in mm/slab.c. This had been reported
>      as lockdep splats several times and stupidly ignored as a false
>      positive, but in fact it's a real (though almost impossible to
>      trigger) deadlock lurking.
> 
>    * Use the proper local_lock primitives in mm/page_alloc.c. That's
>      not a real bug, but this fixes an inconsistency which helps
>      debugability and therefore is worthwhile to be backported.
> 
>    * RT-rwlock/rwsem annotations:
> 
>      RT does not allow multiple readers on rwlocks and rwsems. The
>      lockdep annotations did not yet consider that fact. One might
>      think that this is a complete RT specific issue, but it's
>      not. The FIFO fair rwsem/lock modifications in mainline made
>      reader/writer primitives prone to very subtle deadlock problems
>      which cannot be detected by the current lockdep annotations in
>      mainline. The reason is that if a writer interleaves with two
>      readers it will block the second reader from proceeding in order
>      not to allow writer starvation. The restricted RWlocks semantics
>      of RT allow an easy detection of that problem. We already
>      triggered a real deadlock in RT (see:
>      peterz-srcu-crypto-chain.patch) which could result in a hard to
>      trigger, but mainline relevant deadlock. Wait for more
>      interesting problems in that area.
> 
>    * The output of might_sleep debugging is silent about the possible
>      causes vs. the preempt count. Contrary to interrupt disabling
>      there is zero information about what disabled preemption
>      last. Again, not strictly a bugfix, but debuggability is key.
> 
>    * Fix a potentially deadly sto(m)p_machine deadlock. A CPU which
>      calls that code from its inactive state (don't ask me for the
>      ghastly deatils why this is necessary) can run into a contended
>      state of the stomp machine mutex which would cause a rather
>      awkward issue of idle scheduling itself away to idle as the only
>      possible task on that upcoming cpu. Not pretty ....

Here's my road map as everyone just loves them:

  I'm finishing up on releasing the next merge of:

   3.0.45-rt67 and 3.4.13-rt21

  These are only merging the stable 3.0.45 and 3.4.13 without any -rt
  specific changes.

  I'll then backport these fixes to the stable release and release an
  -rc for 3.0.45-rt68 and 3.4.13-rt22

  For 3.2-rt, I'm waiting for the final release of 3.2.31 to be done
  and will be going through the same ordeal with that. That is, I'll
  release a 3.2.31 merged rt only (3.2.31-rt46) and then backport
  and release a -rc for 3.2.31-rt47. This will come later.

> 
> 
> There is also a worth to mention fundamental change in this release:
> 
>    * Split softirq locks

Although this work is not for stable (and shouldn't be), I'm thinking
about backporting these to the 3.2 and 3.4 trees and creating a separate
branch for them. This way, those that want this feature based on the
3.2/3.4 stable trees, can have the same repository to work from.

> 
>      In the pre 3,x-RT versions we spawned a separate thread for each
>      softirq on each CPU. This served the PER_CPUness requirements,
>      but did not provide any means against priority inversions
>      vs. softirqs.
> 
>      With the start of the 3.0-rt series I decided to drop the per
>      softirq threads for simplicity reasons as I had to deal with all
>      the fallout of the migration disabling design I had taken course
>      to.
> 
>      I got several complaints about the missing softirq thread split
>      since then and a few patches to reestablish them. I refused to
>      take those patches for a simple reason: configuration. It's
>      extremly hard to get the parameters right for a RT system in
>      general. Adding something which is obscure as soft interrupts to
>      the system designers todo list is a bad idea.
> 
>      Now I spent quite some time on analysing the most urgent issues
>      on RT:
> 
>      	  throughpout  versus  deterministism
> 
>      The interested observer may have noticed that deterministic
>      behaviour and throughput are mutually exclusive properties, but
>      in the 2.6 based RT series the split softirq implementation at
>      least allowed some mitigation of this problem by adjusting the
>      priorities, while the 3.x RT series did not provide a user
>      tunable knob at all. Though the untunable behaviour of the 3.x RT
>      series behaved in general better than the untuned 2.6 RT at least
>      in terms of throughput.
> 
>      The reason is that 3.x RT put a big focus on dealing with the
>      increasing PER_CPUness of data in the mainline kernel. The
>      migrate_disable based ability of executing pending soft
>      interrupts in any thread context which had raised a soft
>      interrupt made RT a bit more similar to the mainline behaviour,
>      but did not provide any serious means of controlling that
>      behaviour.
> 
>      My new approach of split softirq locks is another (sigh) futile
>      attempt to deal with the current (non)existing softirq semantics
>      of the mainline kernel.
> 
>      What's the meaning of soft interrupt processing in Linux today?
> 
>      First of all, it's a conglomorate of mostly unrelated jobs, which
>      run in the context of a randomly chosen victim w/o the ability to
>      put any control on them. Softirq processing happens in three
>      contexts:
> 
>      - Return from hard interrupt context. Basically the same as the
>        hard interrupt context except that interrupts are enabled.
> 
>      - In the context of a thread which reenables softirq processing
>        via local_bh_enable or *_unlock_bh. Interestingly enough
>        reenabling interrupts does not have the same effect, though
>        disabling interrupts prevents softirq processing as well and
>        there are places which raise soft interrupt in interrupt
>        disabled regions which delegates them to ksoftirqd or to the
>        next random context which happens to reach a softirq processing
>        context before ksoftirqd.
> 
>      - ksoftirqd. The invocation of ksoftirqd is not well defined. It
>        happens when the above two contexts looped extensivly in the
>        softirq processing or if a softirq gets raised outside of a
>        hard interrupt context in a bottom half enabled region. Now
>        even in the case that ksoftirqd has been woken up there is no
>        guarantee, that it will actually process softinterrupts at all
>        because the other two contexts can be invoked (again) before
>        ksoftirqd gets scheduled in.
> 
>      Quite a set of imprecise rules and unclear semantics which
>      explain the pain RT has with softirq processing.
> 
>      The pre 3.0-RT approach of delegating all softirq processing to
>      separate per softirq threads is only a partial solution to the
>      problem and introduces a hard to configure set of softirq thread
>      scheduling policy and priority questions. Aside of that it does
>      not allow to process soft interrupts from the tail of the
>      interrupt threads or softirq enabling code.
> 
>      The 3.x-RT approach of allowing the softirq processing from the
>      tail of interrupt threads or softirq enabling code gave us a
>      throughput enhancement and got rid of the configuration
>      complexity, but we lost the ability to optimize for specific use
>      cases (e.g. deterministic networking).
>      
>      After studying the softirq behaviour I came to the conclusion
>      that it might be interesting to try a different approach.
>      Especially networking handles the softirq processing either in
>      the interrupt tail or from bh enabling thread contexts.
> 
>      So instead of splitting the softirq threads I split the softirq
>      locks so different softirqs can be handled seperately. If a
>      softirq is raised in the context of a thread, then its noted in
>      the task struct and when the thread leaves the bh disabled
>      section it handles this particular soft interrupt in its own
>      context. This removes the burden of running completely unrelated
>      softirqs like timers, tasklets etc. from a context which raised a
>      network soft interrupt. That way the softirq processing is
>      coupled to the originating thread and its scheduling properties,
>      so the need for finding optimal parameters should be gone.

Very interesting. I haven't looked at the patches yet (will do that
after I finish with the stable merge releases), but I started looking
into the softirq changes as well, and came up with something almost
identical. I talked a little with Carsten about this, and he told me to
wait for your release, which I then did, and I'm glad I did :-)

I was looking specifically at the network softirqs as well, and started
some patches to separate out the softirqs with the task (sounds similar
to what you did). But before that, I also played with the
local_softirq_lock. For the end of interrupt processing only (where it
should always be safe to lock), if the trylock fails, I grabbed it and
then released it. Because if a lower priority task is currently running
the softirq that the higher priority interrupt wants to run, it would at
least priority boost the lower thread, and the higher priority interrupt
could run its softirq at its priority. Maybe this can still be added?


> 
>      Now this only works for soft interrupts which are raised in the
>      context of a thread. Unfortunately there is no way to do the same
>      for soft interrupts which are raised in hard interrupt context
>      (e.g. RCU, timers). They have no thread associated and are
>      therefor delegated to ksoftirqd. This is ok, except that it does
>      not help people who want to use signal based timers, but that
>      problem needs to be solved by moving the complex handling into
>      the context of the thread which is going to receive the signal
>      and should vanish from the softirq processing completely.
>      
>      In principle we should have even in mainline a clear separation
>      of which soft interrupts are disabled by a particular code region
>      instead of disabling them wholesale. Though the nicest solution
>      would be to get rid of them completely :)

I've started looking at playing with the NAPI code again, and trying to
see if I can add an ENAPI interface (Even Newer API), where the driver
uses its own interrupt thread, and instead of having the polling in the
network softirq, it can do the polling in its own thread.

>  
>      Give it proper testing and lemme know whether this solves your
>      particular problems which arised from giving up the separate
>      softirq threads. Don't complain about signal based timers - see
>      above!
> 
> The RT patch against 3.6.1 can be found here:
> 
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.6/patch-3.6.1-rt1.patch.xz
> 
> The split quilt queue is available at:
> 
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.4/patches-3.6.1-rt1.tar.xz
> 
> Enjoy,

Will do!

-- Steve



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 16:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
  2012-10-09 17:13     ` Steven Rostedt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2012-10-09 16:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users, Carsten Emde

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:46 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >      So instead of splitting the softirq threads I split the softirq
> >      locks so different softirqs can be handled seperately. If a
> >      softirq is raised in the context of a thread, then its noted in
> >      the task struct and when the thread leaves the bh disabled
> >      section it handles this particular soft interrupt in its own
> >      context. This removes the burden of running completely unrelated
> >      softirqs like timers, tasklets etc. from a context which raised a
> >      network soft interrupt. That way the softirq processing is
> >      coupled to the originating thread and its scheduling properties,
> >      so the need for finding optimal parameters should be gone.
> 
> Very interesting. I haven't looked at the patches yet (will do that
> after I finish with the stable merge releases), but I started looking
> into the softirq changes as well, and came up with something almost
> identical. I talked a little with Carsten about this, and he told me to
> wait for your release, which I then did, and I'm glad I did :-)
> 
> I was looking specifically at the network softirqs as well, and started
> some patches to separate out the softirqs with the task (sounds similar
> to what you did). But before that, I also played with the
> local_softirq_lock. For the end of interrupt processing only (where it
> should always be safe to lock), if the trylock fails, I grabbed it and
> then released it. Because if a lower priority task is currently running
> the softirq that the higher priority interrupt wants to run, it would at
> least priority boost the lower thread, and the higher priority interrupt
> could run its softirq at its priority. Maybe this can still be added?

I take the lock unconditionally now on local_bh_enable() to enforce
exactly that behaviour. That's what Carsten needs for his
deterministic networking stuff and my goal was zero configuration. Well,
it's not zero as you still have to get the priorities of the app and the
network irq thread straight, but the extra softirq fiddling is gone.

> >      Now this only works for soft interrupts which are raised in the
> >      context of a thread. Unfortunately there is no way to do the same
> >      for soft interrupts which are raised in hard interrupt context
> >      (e.g. RCU, timers). They have no thread associated and are
> >      therefor delegated to ksoftirqd. This is ok, except that it does
> >      not help people who want to use signal based timers, but that
> >      problem needs to be solved by moving the complex handling into
> >      the context of the thread which is going to receive the signal
> >      and should vanish from the softirq processing completely.
> >      
> >      In principle we should have even in mainline a clear separation
> >      of which soft interrupts are disabled by a particular code region
> >      instead of disabling them wholesale. Though the nicest solution
> >      would be to get rid of them completely :)
> 
> I've started looking at playing with the NAPI code again, and trying to
> see if I can add an ENAPI interface (Even Newer API), where the driver
> uses its own interrupt thread, and instead of having the polling in the
> network softirq, it can do the polling in its own thread.

It's pretty close to the behaviour I enforced with this change. Let's
play with that and figure out what influence it has on the network
throughput performance on RT. That needs probably a different
scheduling scheme than what Carsten needs for his deterministic
behaviour.

Thanks,

	tglx

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 16:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2012-10-09 17:13     ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 17:32       ` Thomas Gleixner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-09 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users, Carsten Emde

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 18:19 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>  
> > I've started looking at playing with the NAPI code again, and trying to
> > see if I can add an ENAPI interface (Even Newer API), where the driver
> > uses its own interrupt thread, and instead of having the polling in the
> > network softirq, it can do the polling in its own thread.
> 
> It's pretty close to the behaviour I enforced with this change. Let's
> play with that and figure out what influence it has on the network
> throughput performance on RT. That needs probably a different
> scheduling scheme than what Carsten needs for his deterministic
> behaviour.
> 

I was actually looking at the change for mainline, not for -rt ;-)

-- Steve



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 17:13     ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 17:32       ` Thomas Gleixner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2012-10-09 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users, Carsten Emde

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 18:19 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >  
> > > I've started looking at playing with the NAPI code again, and trying to
> > > see if I can add an ENAPI interface (Even Newer API), where the driver
> > > uses its own interrupt thread, and instead of having the polling in the
> > > network softirq, it can do the polling in its own thread.
> > 
> > It's pretty close to the behaviour I enforced with this change. Let's
> > play with that and figure out what influence it has on the network
> > throughput performance on RT. That needs probably a different
> > scheduling scheme than what Carsten needs for his deterministic
> > behaviour.
> > 
> 
> I was actually looking at the change for mainline, not for -rt ;-)

I know, but you can utilize RT for figuring out what kind of
performance impact (in whatever direction) this modus operandi
has. That gives us a better understanding and hopefully improvements
for RT, but at the same time a lot of insight in how we should handle
this scenario on a non RT kernel. You might try to make the softirq
split lock scheme work in CONFIG_RT_BASE as this gives us a way better
comparison to mainline behaviour.

Thanks,

	tglx

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread

* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 13:46 [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
  2012-10-09 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 18:08 ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 19:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
  2012-10-09 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 21:28 ` Tim Sander
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-09 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:46 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

> The RT patch against 3.6.1 can be found here:
> 
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.6/patch-3.6.1-rt1.patch.xz
> 
> The split quilt queue is available at:
> 
>   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.4/patches-3.6.1-rt1.tar.xz
> 

I think you meant:

    http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.6/patches-3.6.1-rt1.tar.xz

-- Steve



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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 13:46 [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
  2012-10-09 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 18:08 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 18:28   ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-10  0:21   ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 21:28 ` Tim Sander
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-09 18:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:46 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Dear RT Folks,
> 
> I'm pleased to announce the 3.6.1-rt1 release.
> 
> This is a pretty straight forward move from the 3.4-rt series which
> includes a few significant updates which need to be backported to the
> 3.x-rt stable series:

My scripts detected these patches to be pulled into stable. It detects
any patch that has a Cc: to stable-rt@vger.kernel.org that does not
already exist in stable. It also adds the '000x-' prefix to keep the
order.

0000-scsi-qla2xxx-fix-bug-sleeping-function-called-from-invalid-context.patch
0001-upstream-net-rt-remove-preemption-disabling-in-netif_rx.patch
0002-random-make-it-work-on-rt.patch
0003-softirq-init-softirq-local-lock-after-per-cpu-section-is-set-up.patch
0004-mm-slab-fix-potential-deadlock.patch
0005-mm-page-alloc-use-local-lock-on-target-cpu.patch
0006-rt-rw-lockdep-annotations.patch
0007-stomp-machine-deal-clever-with-stopper-lock.patch

> 
>    * Make interrupt randomness work again on RT. Based on the 3.x.y
>      stable updates in that area. Should be applicable to all 3.x-rt
>      series with almost no modifications.

Looks to be: random-make-it-work-on-rt.patch

> 
>    * RT softirq initialization sequence fix (Steven Rostedt)

As I remembered that I forgot to Cc stable-rt, I manually added it to my
patch before running the script.

> 
>    * Fix for a potential deadlock in mm/slab.c. This had been reported
>      as lockdep splats several times and stupidly ignored as a false
>      positive, but in fact it's a real (though almost impossible to
>      trigger) deadlock lurking.

Looks to be: mm-slab-fix-potential-deadlock.patch

> 
>    * Use the proper local_lock primitives in mm/page_alloc.c. That's
>      not a real bug, but this fixes an inconsistency which helps
>      debugability and therefore is worthwhile to be backported.

Looks to be: mm-page-alloc-use-local-lock-on-target-cpu.patch

> 
>    * RT-rwlock/rwsem annotations:

Looks to be: rt-rw-lockdep-annotations.patch

> 
>      RT does not allow multiple readers on rwlocks and rwsems. The
>      lockdep annotations did not yet consider that fact. One might
>      think that this is a complete RT specific issue, but it's
>      not. The FIFO fair rwsem/lock modifications in mainline made
>      reader/writer primitives prone to very subtle deadlock problems
>      which cannot be detected by the current lockdep annotations in
>      mainline. The reason is that if a writer interleaves with two
>      readers it will block the second reader from proceeding in order
>      not to allow writer starvation. The restricted RWlocks semantics
>      of RT allow an easy detection of that problem. We already
>      triggered a real deadlock in RT (see:
>      peterz-srcu-crypto-chain.patch) which could result in a hard to
>      trigger, but mainline relevant deadlock. Wait for more
>      interesting problems in that area.
> 
>    * The output of might_sleep debugging is silent about the possible
>      causes vs. the preempt count. Contrary to interrupt disabling
>      there is zero information about what disabled preemption
>      last. Again, not strictly a bugfix, but debuggability is key.

Is this: sched-better-debug-output-for-might-sleep.patch ? It's not
marked to Cc stable-rt.

> 
>    * Fix a potentially deadly sto(m)p_machine deadlock. A CPU which
>      calls that code from its inactive state (don't ask me for the
>      ghastly deatils why this is necessary) can run into a contended
>      state of the stomp machine mutex which would cause a rather
>      awkward issue of idle scheduling itself away to idle as the only
>      possible task on that upcoming cpu. Not pretty ....

Looks to be: stomp-machine-deal-clever-with-stopper-lock.patch


If I'm wrong with the above, let me know. Thanks,

-- Steve



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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 18:28   ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-10  0:21   ` Steven Rostedt
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-09 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 14:19 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:46 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > Dear RT Folks,
> > 
> > I'm pleased to announce the 3.6.1-rt1 release.
> > 
> > This is a pretty straight forward move from the 3.4-rt series which
> > includes a few significant updates which need to be backported to the
> > 3.x-rt stable series:
> 
> My scripts detected these patches to be pulled into stable. It detects
> any patch that has a Cc: to stable-rt@vger.kernel.org that does not
> already exist in stable. It also adds the '000x-' prefix to keep the
> order.
> 
> 0000-scsi-qla2xxx-fix-bug-sleeping-function-called-from-invalid-context.patch
> 0001-upstream-net-rt-remove-preemption-disabling-in-netif_rx.patch

The above seem to be already applied (at least to 3.4-rt). Not sure why
my scripts missed it. Perhaps these were the ones added directly, and
the names of the patch that I used did not match your names. My script
saves off what it already applied, to know what it can skip for later
pulls.

-- Steve

> 0002-random-make-it-work-on-rt.patch
> 0003-softirq-init-softirq-local-lock-after-per-cpu-section-is-set-up.patch
> 0004-mm-slab-fix-potential-deadlock.patch
> 0005-mm-page-alloc-use-local-lock-on-target-cpu.patch
> 0006-rt-rw-lockdep-annotations.patch
> 0007-stomp-machine-deal-clever-with-stopper-lock.patch
> 



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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 18:08 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 19:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2012-10-09 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 15:46 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > The RT patch against 3.6.1 can be found here:
> > 
> >   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.6/patch-3.6.1-rt1.patch.xz
> > 
> > The split quilt queue is available at:
> > 
> >   http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.4/patches-3.6.1-rt1.tar.xz
> > 
> 
> I think you meant:
> 
>     http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/3.6/patches-3.6.1-rt1.tar.xz

Bah. Copy and paste should be something which can be disabled :)

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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 13:46 [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1 Thomas Gleixner
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-10-09 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-09 21:28 ` Tim Sander
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Tim Sander @ 2012-10-09 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

Hi Thomas
> I'm pleased to announce the 3.6.1-rt1 release.
I also have to second the big thanks of Steven!

>    * Fix for a potential deadlock in mm/slab.c. This had been reported
>      as lockdep splats several times and stupidly ignored as a false
>      positive, but in fact it's a real (though almost impossible to
>      trigger) deadlock lurking.
Mh, just an unverified (i.e. i haven't had the time to dig into it) 
information from my side: I think i have been seeing a total lockup on an OOM 
condition. Is it possible that this possible deadlock
might have been triggered in such a condition more "reliably"?

Best regards
Tim

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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-09 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-09 18:28   ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-10  0:21   ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-10  1:51     ` Steven Rostedt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-10  0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users



On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 14:19 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:

I applied and tested the backported patches to 3.4-rt. Things look good
and will be posting the -rc1 soon.

Status for 3.0-rt:


> 0000-scsi-qla2xxx-fix-bug-sleeping-function-called-from-invalid-context.patch
> 0001-upstream-net-rt-remove-preemption-disabling-in-netisched-better-debug-output-for-might-sleep.patch f_rx.patch

The above two have been applied to both 3.0-rt and 3.4-rt previously.

> 0002-random-make-it-work-on-rt.patch

The above has been applied to 3.4-rt but is not applicable to 3.0-rt, as
the add_interrupt_randomness() does not exist.

> 0003-softirq-init-softirq-local-lock-after-per-cpu-section-is-set-up.patch

For 3.0-rt the softirq_early_init() comes after the printk banner, which
is after per cpu data has been set up. But for consistency, I made this
patch moved to before the banner in the same location as 3.4-rt+ is.


> 0004-mm-slab-fix-potential-deadlock.patch
> 0005-mm-page-alloc-use-local-lock-on-target-cpu.patch
> 0006-rt-rw-lockdep-annotations.patch

The above applied to 3.0-rt with no issues.

* sched-better-debug-output-for-might-sleep.patch 

Had slight conflicts, but trivial fix.

> 0007-stomp-machine-deal-clever-with-stopper-lock.patch

With this one, things have changed quite a bit. I'll take a deeper look
at what you did and figure out how this applies to v3.0-rt.

-- Steve




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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-10  0:21   ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-10  1:51     ` Steven Rostedt
  2012-10-10 11:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Steven Rostedt @ 2012-10-10  1:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 20:21 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> > 0007-stomp-machine-deal-clever-with-stopper-lock.patch
> 
> With this one, things have changed quite a bit. I'll take a deeper look
> at what you did and figure out how this applies to v3.0-rt.

It doesn't look like this patch is needed for v3.0-rt as the patch
addresses the new stop_machine_from_inactive_cpu() API used by the mtrr
code added by this commit:

commit 192d8857427dd23707d5f0b86ca990c3af6f2d74
Author: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Date:   Thu Jun 23 11:19:29 2011 -0700

    x86, mtrr: use stop_machine APIs for doing MTRR rendezvous


This was added in 3.1 so the patch is still required for v3.2-rt.

-- Steve



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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] 3.6.1-rt1
  2012-10-10  1:51     ` Steven Rostedt
@ 2012-10-10 11:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2012-10-10 11:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steven Rostedt; +Cc: LKML, linux-rt-users

On Tue, 9 Oct 2012, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 20:21 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> > > 0007-stomp-machine-deal-clever-with-stopper-lock.patch
> > 
> > With this one, things have changed quite a bit. I'll take a deeper look
> > at what you did and figure out how this applies to v3.0-rt.
> 
> It doesn't look like this patch is needed for v3.0-rt as the patch
> addresses the new stop_machine_from_inactive_cpu() API used by the mtrr
> code added by this commit:
> 
> commit 192d8857427dd23707d5f0b86ca990c3af6f2d74
> Author: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
> Date:   Thu Jun 23 11:19:29 2011 -0700
> 
>     x86, mtrr: use stop_machine APIs for doing MTRR rendezvous
> 
> 
> This was added in 3.1 so the patch is still required for v3.2-rt.

Correct. 3.0 is not affected.

	 tglx

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