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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, lenb@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:14:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1353107684.12509.65.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121116230143.GA15338@kroah.com>

On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 15:01 -0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 03:45:43PM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 22:43 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:22:47 AM Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> > > > As discussed in https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1581581/
> > > > the driver core remove function needs to always succeed. This means we need
> > > > to know that the device can be successfully removed before acpi_bus_trim / 
> > > > acpi_bus_hot_remove_device are called. This can cause panics when OSPM-initiated
> > > > eject or driver unbind of memory devices fails e.g with:
> > > > 
> > > > echo 1 >/sys/bus/pci/devices/PNP0C80:XX/eject
> > > > echo "PNP0C80:XX" > /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/acpi_memhotplug/unbind
> > > > 
> > > > since the ACPI core goes ahead and ejects the device regardless of whether the
> > > > the memory is still in use or not.
> > > 
> > > So the question is, does the ACPI core have to do that and if so, then why?
> > 
> > The problem is that acpi_memory_devcie_remove() can fail.  However,
> > device_release_driver() is a void function, so it cannot report its
> > error.  Here are function flows for SCI, sysfs eject and unbind.
> 
> Then don't ever let acpi_memory_device_remove() fail.  If the user wants
> it gone, it needs to go away.  Just like any other device in the system
> that can go away at any point in time, you can't "fail" that.

That would be ideal, but we cannot delete a memory device that contains
kernel memory.  I am curious, how do you deal with a USB device that is
being mounted in this case?

Thanks,
-Toshi



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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, lenb@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:14:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1353107684.12509.65.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121116230143.GA15338@kroah.com>

On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 15:01 -0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 03:45:43PM -0700, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 22:43 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:22:47 AM Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> > > > As discussed in https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1581581/
> > > > the driver core remove function needs to always succeed. This means we need
> > > > to know that the device can be successfully removed before acpi_bus_trim / 
> > > > acpi_bus_hot_remove_device are called. This can cause panics when OSPM-initiated
> > > > eject or driver unbind of memory devices fails e.g with:
> > > > 
> > > > echo 1 >/sys/bus/pci/devices/PNP0C80:XX/eject
> > > > echo "PNP0C80:XX" > /sys/bus/acpi/drivers/acpi_memhotplug/unbind
> > > > 
> > > > since the ACPI core goes ahead and ejects the device regardless of whether the
> > > > the memory is still in use or not.
> > > 
> > > So the question is, does the ACPI core have to do that and if so, then why?
> > 
> > The problem is that acpi_memory_devcie_remove() can fail.  However,
> > device_release_driver() is a void function, so it cannot report its
> > error.  Here are function flows for SCI, sysfs eject and unbind.
> 
> Then don't ever let acpi_memory_device_remove() fail.  If the user wants
> it gone, it needs to go away.  Just like any other device in the system
> that can go away at any point in time, you can't "fail" that.

That would be ideal, but we cannot delete a memory device that contains
kernel memory.  I am curious, how do you deal with a USB device that is
being mounted in this case?

Thanks,
-Toshi


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-16 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-15 10:22 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22 ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] driver core: Introduce prepare_remove in bus_type Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22   ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove operation in acpi_device_ops Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22   ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] acpi_memhotplug: Add prepare_remove operation Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-15 10:22   ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2012-11-16 21:17 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 21:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 21:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-16 21:33     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-16 21:41     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 21:41       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 21:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-16 22:45   ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-16 22:45     ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-16 23:01     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-16 23:01       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-16 23:14       ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2012-11-16 23:14         ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-16 23:33         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-16 23:33           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-16 23:35           ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-16 23:35             ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-17  0:02             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-17  0:02               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-17  0:08               ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-17  0:08                 ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-17  0:22                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-17  0:22                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-11-17  0:25                   ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-17  0:25                     ` Toshi Kani
2012-11-18 16:16                     ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-18 16:16                       ` Jiang Liu

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