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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, wency@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2, RFC] Driver core: Introduce offline/online callbacks for memory blocks
Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 16:45:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1367966740.30363.26.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2150698.7rPOtiF0kp@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 00:10 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 03:03:49 PM Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 14:11 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 12:59:45 PM Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> > 
> >  :
> > 
> > > Updated patch is appended for completness.
> > 
> > Yes, this updated patch solved the locking issue.
> > 
> > > > > > A more general issue is that there are now two memory offlining efforts:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) from acpi_bus_offline_companions during device offline
> > > > > > 2) from mm: remove_memory during device detach (offline_memory_block_cb)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The 2nd is only called if the device offline operation was already succesful, so
> > > > > > it seems ineffective or redundant now, at least for x86_64/acpi_memhotplug machine
> > > > > > (unless the blocks were re-onlined in between).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sure, and that should be OK for now.  Changing the detach behavior is not
> > > > > essential from the patch [2/2] perspective, we can do it later.
> > > > 
> > > > yes, ok.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On the other hand, the 2nd effort has some more intelligence in offlining, as it
> > > > > > tries to offline twice in the precense of memcg, see commits df3e1b91 or
> > > > > > reworked 0baeab16. Maybe we need to consolidate the logic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm.  Perhaps it would make sense to implement that logic in
> > > > > memory_subsys_offline(), then?
> > > > 
> > > > the logic tries to offline the memory blocks of the device twice, because the
> > > > first memory block might be storing information for the subsequent memblocks.
> > > > 
> > > > memory_subsys_offline operates on one memory block at a time. Perhaps we can get
> > > > the same effect if we do an acpi_walk of acpi_bus_offline_companions twice in
> > > > acpi_scan_hot_remove but it's probably not a good idea, since that would
> > > > affect non-memory devices as well. 
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure how important this intelligence is in practice (I am not using
> > > > mem cgroups in my guest kernel tests yet).  Maybe Wen (original author) has
> > > > more details on 2-pass offlining effectiveness.
> > > 
> > > OK
> > > 
> > > It may be added in a separate patch in any case.
> > 
> > I had the same comment as Vasilis.  And, I agree with you that we can
> > enhance it in separate patches.
> > 
> >  :
> > 
> > > +static int memory_subsys_offline(struct device *dev)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct memory_block *mem = container_of(dev, struct memory_block, dev);
> > > +	int ret;
> > > +
> > > +	mutex_lock(&mem->state_mutex);
> > > +	ret = __memory_block_change_state(mem, MEM_OFFLINE, MEM_ONLINE, -1);
> > 
> > This function needs to check mem->state just like
> > offline_memory_block().  That is:
> > 
> > 	int ret = 0;
> > 		:
> > 	if (mem->state != MEM_OFFLINE)
> > 		ret = __memory_block_change_state(...);
> > 
> > Otherwise, memory hot-delete to an off-lined memory fails in
> > __memory_block_change_state() since mem->state is already set to
> > MEM_OFFLINE.
> > 
> > With that change, for the series:
> > Reviewed-by: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
> 
> OK, one more update, then (appended).
> 
> That said I thought that the check against dev->offline in device_offline()
> would be sufficient to guard agaist that.  Is there any "offline" code path
> I didn't take into account?

Oh, you are right about that.  The real problem is that dev->offline is
set to false (0) when a new memory is hot-added in off-line state.  So,
instead, dev->offline needs to be set properly.  

Thanks,
-Toshi


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From: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Vasilis Liaskovitis <vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, wency@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v2, RFC] Driver core: Introduce offline/online callbacks for memory blocks
Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 16:45:40 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1367966740.30363.26.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2150698.7rPOtiF0kp@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 00:10 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 03:03:49 PM Toshi Kani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 14:11 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 12:59:45 PM Vasilis Liaskovitis wrote:
> > 
> >  :
> > 
> > > Updated patch is appended for completness.
> > 
> > Yes, this updated patch solved the locking issue.
> > 
> > > > > > A more general issue is that there are now two memory offlining efforts:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) from acpi_bus_offline_companions during device offline
> > > > > > 2) from mm: remove_memory during device detach (offline_memory_block_cb)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The 2nd is only called if the device offline operation was already succesful, so
> > > > > > it seems ineffective or redundant now, at least for x86_64/acpi_memhotplug machine
> > > > > > (unless the blocks were re-onlined in between).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sure, and that should be OK for now.  Changing the detach behavior is not
> > > > > essential from the patch [2/2] perspective, we can do it later.
> > > > 
> > > > yes, ok.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On the other hand, the 2nd effort has some more intelligence in offlining, as it
> > > > > > tries to offline twice in the precense of memcg, see commits df3e1b91 or
> > > > > > reworked 0baeab16. Maybe we need to consolidate the logic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm.  Perhaps it would make sense to implement that logic in
> > > > > memory_subsys_offline(), then?
> > > > 
> > > > the logic tries to offline the memory blocks of the device twice, because the
> > > > first memory block might be storing information for the subsequent memblocks.
> > > > 
> > > > memory_subsys_offline operates on one memory block at a time. Perhaps we can get
> > > > the same effect if we do an acpi_walk of acpi_bus_offline_companions twice in
> > > > acpi_scan_hot_remove but it's probably not a good idea, since that would
> > > > affect non-memory devices as well. 
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure how important this intelligence is in practice (I am not using
> > > > mem cgroups in my guest kernel tests yet).  Maybe Wen (original author) has
> > > > more details on 2-pass offlining effectiveness.
> > > 
> > > OK
> > > 
> > > It may be added in a separate patch in any case.
> > 
> > I had the same comment as Vasilis.  And, I agree with you that we can
> > enhance it in separate patches.
> > 
> >  :
> > 
> > > +static int memory_subsys_offline(struct device *dev)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct memory_block *mem = container_of(dev, struct memory_block, dev);
> > > +	int ret;
> > > +
> > > +	mutex_lock(&mem->state_mutex);
> > > +	ret = __memory_block_change_state(mem, MEM_OFFLINE, MEM_ONLINE, -1);
> > 
> > This function needs to check mem->state just like
> > offline_memory_block().  That is:
> > 
> > 	int ret = 0;
> > 		:
> > 	if (mem->state != MEM_OFFLINE)
> > 		ret = __memory_block_change_state(...);
> > 
> > Otherwise, memory hot-delete to an off-lined memory fails in
> > __memory_block_change_state() since mem->state is already set to
> > MEM_OFFLINE.
> > 
> > With that change, for the series:
> > Reviewed-by: Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hp.com>
> 
> OK, one more update, then (appended).
> 
> That said I thought that the check against dev->offline in device_offline()
> would be sufficient to guard agaist that.  Is there any "offline" code path
> I didn't take into account?

Oh, you are right about that.  The real problem is that dev->offline is
set to false (0) when a new memory is hot-added in off-line state.  So,
instead, dev->offline needs to be set properly.  

Thanks,
-Toshi



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-07 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-29 12:23 [PATCH 0/3 RFC] Driver core / ACPI: Add offline/online for graceful hot-removal of devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-29 12:26 ` [PATCH 1/3 RFC] Driver core: Add offline/online device operations Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-29 23:10   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-30 11:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-30 15:32       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-30 20:05         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-30 23:38   ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-02  0:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 23:29       ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-03 11:48         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-29 12:28 ` [PATCH 2/3 RFC] Driver core: Use generic offline/online for CPU offline/online Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-29 23:11   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-30 12:01     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-30 15:27       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-04-30 20:06         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-30 23:42   ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-01 14:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-01 20:07       ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-02  0:26         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-29 12:29 ` [PATCH 3/3 RFC] ACPI / hotplug: Use device offline/online for graceful hot-removal Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-30 23:49   ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-01 15:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-01 20:20       ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-02  0:53         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 12:26 ` [PATCH 0/4] Driver core / ACPI: Add offline/online for graceful hot-removal of devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 12:27   ` [PATCH 1/4] Driver core: Add offline/online device operations Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 13:57     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-02 23:11     ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-02 23:36       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 23:23         ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-02 12:28   ` [PATCH 2/4] Driver core: Use generic offline/online for CPU offline/online Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 13:57     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-02 12:29   ` [PATCH 3/4] ACPI / hotplug: Use device offline/online for graceful hot-removal Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 12:31   ` [PATCH 4/4] ACPI / processor: Use common hotplug infrastructure Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-02 13:59     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-02 23:20     ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-03 12:05       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-03 12:21         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-03 18:27         ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-03 19:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-03 19:34             ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-04  1:01   ` [PATCH 0/3 RFC] Driver core: Add offline/online callbacks for memory_subsys Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:01     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:03     ` [PATCH 1/3 RFC] ACPI / memhotplug: Bind removable memory blocks to ACPI device nodes Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:03       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:04     ` [PATCH 2/3 RFC] Driver core: Introduce types of device "online" Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:04       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:06     ` [PATCH 3/3 RFC] Driver core: Introduce offline/online callbacks for memory blocks Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04  1:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04 11:11     ` [PATCH 0/2 v2, RFC] Driver core: Add offline/online callbacks for memory_subsys Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04 11:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04 11:12       ` [PATCH 1/2 v2, RFC] ACPI / memhotplug: Bind removable memory blocks to ACPI device nodes Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04 11:12         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-21  6:50         ` Tang Chen
2013-05-21  6:50           ` Tang Chen
2013-05-04 11:21       ` [PATCH 2/2 v2, RFC] Driver core: Introduce offline/online callbacks for memory blocks Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-04 11:21         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-06 16:28         ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-05-06 16:28           ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-05-07  0:59           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07  0:59             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 10:59             ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-05-07 10:59               ` Vasilis Liaskovitis
2013-05-07 12:11               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 12:11                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 21:03                 ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-07 21:03                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-07 22:10                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 22:10                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 22:45                     ` Toshi Kani [this message]
2013-05-07 22:45                       ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-07 23:17                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 23:17                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-07 23:59                         ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-07 23:59                           ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-08  0:24                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-08  0:24                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-08  0:37                             ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-08  0:37                               ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-08 11:53                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-08 11:53                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-08 14:38                                 ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-08 14:38                                   ` Toshi Kani
2013-05-06 17:20         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-06 17:20           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-06 19:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-06 19:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-21  6:37         ` Tang Chen
2013-05-21  6:37           ` Tang Chen
2013-05-21 11:15           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-21 11:15             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-22  4:45             ` Tang Chen
2013-05-22  4:45               ` Tang Chen
2013-05-22 10:42               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-22 10:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-22 22:06               ` [PATCH] Driver core / memory: Simplify __memory_block_change_state() Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-22 22:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-22 22:14                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-22 22:14                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-22 23:29                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-22 23:29                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-23  4:37                 ` Tang Chen
2013-05-23  4:37                   ` Tang Chen
2013-05-06 10:48       ` [PATCH 0/2 v2, RFC] Driver core: Add offline/online callbacks for memory_subsys Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-05-06 10:48         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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