From: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> To: Steve Dickson <SteveD-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>, Linux NFS list <linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, "Linux FS devel list" <linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, Linux Security List <linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, SELinux List <selinux-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/17] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 18:06:24 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <1368036382.5978.24.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <518A8C3D.9000407-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 13:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > On 01/05/13 14:59, Myklebust, Trond wrote: > >> diff --git a/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h b/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h > >> > index 9f2dba3..4d2fdf6 100644 > >> > --- a/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h > >> > +++ b/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h > >> > @@ -351,6 +351,7 @@ struct nfs_openargs { > >> > const u32 * bitmask; > >> > const u32 * open_bitmap; > >> > __u32 claim; > >> > + const struct nfs4_label *label; > >> > }; > >> > > >> > struct nfs_openres { > >> > @@ -360,6 +361,7 @@ struct nfs_openres { > >> > struct nfs4_change_info cinfo; > >> > __u32 rflags; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * f_attr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *f_label; > >> > struct nfs_seqid * seqid; > >> > const struct nfs_server *server; > >> > fmode_t delegation_type; > >> > @@ -404,6 +406,7 @@ struct nfs_closeres { > >> > struct nfs4_sequence_res seq_res; > >> > nfs4_stateid stateid; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * fattr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *label; > >> > struct nfs_seqid * seqid; > >> > const struct nfs_server *server; > >> > }; > >> > @@ -477,6 +480,7 @@ struct nfs4_delegreturnargs { > >> > struct nfs4_delegreturnres { > >> > struct nfs4_sequence_res seq_res; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * fattr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *label; > >> > const struct nfs_server *server; > >> > }; > >> > > >> > @@ -497,6 +501,7 @@ struct nfs_readargs { > >> > struct nfs_readres { > >> > struct nfs4_sequence_res seq_res; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * fattr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *label; > > Why do we need to check labels on close, delegreturn, read, remove, > > rename, etc? > All of these have GETATTR in the compound they send out. So I'm > assuming to keep consistence, the label bit needs to be set > on all *most* of the GEATTRs. Ones that actually nfs_refresh_inode() > the inode. We need to distinguish between cache consistency GETATTRs, and metadata refresh GETATTRs. Cache consistency GETATTRs are basically all about making sure that we're keeping the change_attribute (and size) up to date so that we know whether or not the data and metadata caches are correct. Metadata refresh GETATTRs are sent if we know or suspect that our cached metadata is incorrect, and we need to _use_ some of that cached data (in a stat() syscall, or as part of a path lookup or an open()). > > Do any of those operations cause our cached labels to change? > Not the label but the inode. The bit is set in ACCESS, LOOKUP, > LINK, OPEN, CREAT, SETATTR which all clearly update the inode. > > So I guess my question is if the bit is not set in any of these > ops how do we know if the label has changed? Should label changes > be synchronized with inode updates? I know that Bruce doesn't like FATTR4_CHANGE_SEC_LABEL, but that is the only option I can see for implementing a cache consistency model for labels. Without it, the choices are: 1) always fetch the label as part of every COMPOUND. 2) assume the label never changes on the server. The main use cases that have been presented for Labeled NFS on Linux would tend to push me towards door number 2, Monty please... -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer NetApp Trond.Myklebust-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org www.netapp.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> To: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com> Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>, "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>, Linux NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>, "Linux FS devel list" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, Linux Security List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>, SELinux List <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov> Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/17] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 18:06:24 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <1368036382.5978.24.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <518A8C3D.9000407@RedHat.com> On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 13:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote: > On 01/05/13 14:59, Myklebust, Trond wrote: > >> diff --git a/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h b/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h > >> > index 9f2dba3..4d2fdf6 100644 > >> > --- a/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h > >> > +++ b/include/linux/nfs_xdr.h > >> > @@ -351,6 +351,7 @@ struct nfs_openargs { > >> > const u32 * bitmask; > >> > const u32 * open_bitmap; > >> > __u32 claim; > >> > + const struct nfs4_label *label; > >> > }; > >> > > >> > struct nfs_openres { > >> > @@ -360,6 +361,7 @@ struct nfs_openres { > >> > struct nfs4_change_info cinfo; > >> > __u32 rflags; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * f_attr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *f_label; > >> > struct nfs_seqid * seqid; > >> > const struct nfs_server *server; > >> > fmode_t delegation_type; > >> > @@ -404,6 +406,7 @@ struct nfs_closeres { > >> > struct nfs4_sequence_res seq_res; > >> > nfs4_stateid stateid; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * fattr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *label; > >> > struct nfs_seqid * seqid; > >> > const struct nfs_server *server; > >> > }; > >> > @@ -477,6 +480,7 @@ struct nfs4_delegreturnargs { > >> > struct nfs4_delegreturnres { > >> > struct nfs4_sequence_res seq_res; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * fattr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *label; > >> > const struct nfs_server *server; > >> > }; > >> > > >> > @@ -497,6 +501,7 @@ struct nfs_readargs { > >> > struct nfs_readres { > >> > struct nfs4_sequence_res seq_res; > >> > struct nfs_fattr * fattr; > >> > + struct nfs4_label *label; > > Why do we need to check labels on close, delegreturn, read, remove, > > rename, etc? > All of these have GETATTR in the compound they send out. So I'm > assuming to keep consistence, the label bit needs to be set > on all *most* of the GEATTRs. Ones that actually nfs_refresh_inode() > the inode. We need to distinguish between cache consistency GETATTRs, and metadata refresh GETATTRs. Cache consistency GETATTRs are basically all about making sure that we're keeping the change_attribute (and size) up to date so that we know whether or not the data and metadata caches are correct. Metadata refresh GETATTRs are sent if we know or suspect that our cached metadata is incorrect, and we need to _use_ some of that cached data (in a stat() syscall, or as part of a path lookup or an open()). > > Do any of those operations cause our cached labels to change? > Not the label but the inode. The bit is set in ACCESS, LOOKUP, > LINK, OPEN, CREAT, SETATTR which all clearly update the inode. > > So I guess my question is if the bit is not set in any of these > ops how do we know if the label has changed? Should label changes > be synchronized with inode updates? I know that Bruce doesn't like FATTR4_CHANGE_SEC_LABEL, but that is the only option I can see for implementing a cache consistency model for labels. Without it, the choices are: 1) always fetch the label as part of every COMPOUND. 2) assume the label never changes on the server. The main use cases that have been presented for Labeled NFS on Linux would tend to push me towards door number 2, Monty please... -- Trond Myklebust Linux NFS client maintainer NetApp Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com www.netapp.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-08 18:06 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2013-04-29 12:57 [PATCH 00/17] lnfs: 3.9-rc8 release (take 2) Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 01/17] NFSv4.2: Added v4.2 error codes Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 02/17] NFSv4.2: Added NFS v4.2 support to the NFS client Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 03/17] NFSDv4.2: Added NFS v4.2 support to the NFS server Steve Dickson 2013-05-07 20:44 ` J. Bruce Fields 2013-05-07 20:46 ` J. Bruce Fields 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 04/17] Security: Add hook to calculate context based on a negative dentry Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 05/17] Security: Add Hook to test if the particular xattr is part of a MAC model Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 06/17] LSM: Add flags field to security_sb_set_mnt_opts for in kernel mount data Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 07/17] SELinux: Add new labeling type native labels Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 08/17] NFSv4: Add label recommended attribute and NFSv4 flags Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 09/17] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure Steve Dickson 2013-05-01 18:59 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-05-02 18:31 ` Steve Dickson [not found] ` <5182B100.2080900-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2013-05-02 18:39 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-05-02 18:39 ` Myklebust, Trond [not found] ` <1367434764.4189.33.camel-5lNtUQgoD8Pfa3cDbr2K10B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> 2013-05-08 13:43 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 13:43 ` Steve Dickson [not found] ` <518A567F.5060405-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2013-05-08 15:16 ` Casey Schaufler 2013-05-08 15:16 ` Casey Schaufler 2013-05-08 15:16 ` Casey Schaufler 2013-05-08 17:32 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 17:32 ` Steve Dickson [not found] ` <518A8C3D.9000407-AfCzQyP5zfLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2013-05-08 18:06 ` Myklebust, Trond [this message] 2013-05-08 18:06 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-05-08 18:56 ` J. Bruce Fields [not found] ` <20130508185635.GB11497-spRCxval1Z7TsXDwO4sDpg@public.gmane.org> 2013-05-08 19:06 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 19:06 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 12/17] NFS: Add label lifecycle management Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 13/17] NFS: Client implementation of Labeled-NFS Steve Dickson 2013-05-01 19:03 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-05-08 16:39 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 16:43 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-05-08 17:39 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 18:07 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-05-08 18:27 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 18:31 ` Myklebust, Trond [not found] ` <1368037873.5978.34.camel-5lNtUQgoD8Pfa3cDbr2K10B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> 2013-05-08 18:41 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 18:41 ` Steve Dickson 2013-05-08 18:47 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 14/17] NFS: Extend NFS xattr handlers to accept the security namespace Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 16/17] NFSD: Server implementation of MAC Labeling Steve Dickson 2013-04-30 15:49 ` J. Bruce Fields 2013-05-06 20:26 ` J. Bruce Fields [not found] ` <1367240239-19326-1-git-send-email-SteveD-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 10/17] NFSv4: Extend fattr bitmaps to support all 3 words Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 11/17] NFS:Add labels to client function prototypes Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 15/17] Kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for Labeled NFS V4 client Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` [PATCH 17/17] Kconfig: Add Kconfig entry for Labeled NFS V4 server Steve Dickson 2013-04-29 12:57 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-30 15:57 ` [PATCH 00/17] lnfs: 3.9-rc8 release (take 2) J. Bruce Fields 2013-04-30 16:11 ` Myklebust, Trond 2013-04-30 16:13 ` J. Bruce Fields [not found] ` <1367338308.4260.18.camel-5lNtUQgoD8Pfa3cDbr2K10B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> 2013-04-30 17:32 ` Steve Dickson 2013-04-30 17:32 ` Steve Dickson -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below -- 2013-05-02 17:18 [PATCH 00/17] lnfs: linux-3.9 release Steve Dickson 2013-05-02 17:19 ` [PATCH 09/17] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure Steve Dickson 2013-04-24 20:17 [PATCH 00/17] lnfs: 3.9-rc8 release Steve Dickson 2013-04-24 20:17 ` [PATCH 09/17] NFSv4: Introduce new label structure Steve Dickson
Reply instructions: You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email using any one of the following methods: * Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client, and reply-to-all from there: mbox Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style * Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to switches of git-send-email(1): git send-email \ --in-reply-to=1368036382.5978.24.camel@leira.trondhjem.org \ --to=trond.myklebust-hgovqubeegtqt0dzr+alfa@public.gmane.org \ --cc=SteveD-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \ --cc=bfields-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \ --cc=dpquigl-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org \ --cc=linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \ --cc=linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \ --cc=linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \ --cc=selinux-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org \ /path/to/YOUR_REPLY https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html * If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header via mailto: links, try the mailto: linkBe sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes, see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror all data and code used by this external index.