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From: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: per-thread vma caching
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:30:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1393356602.2577.54.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1393355040.2577.52.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>

On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 11:04 -0800, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:37 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> > > index a17621c..14396bf 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/fork.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/fork.c
> > > @@ -363,7 +363,12 @@ static int dup_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm, struct mm_struct *oldmm)
> > >
> > >         mm->locked_vm = 0;
> > >         mm->mmap = NULL;
> > > -       mm->mmap_cache = NULL;
> > > +       mm->vmacache_seqnum = oldmm->vmacache_seqnum + 1;
> > > +
> > > +       /* deal with overflows */
> > > +       if (unlikely(mm->vmacache_seqnum == 0))
> > > +               vmacache_invalidate_all();
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but this can not possibly be correct.
> > 
> > vmacache_invalidate_all() walks over all the threads of the current
> > process, but "mm" here is the mm of the *new* process that is getting
> > created, and is unrelated in all ways to the threads of the old
> > process.
> 
> vmacache_invalidate_all() is actually a misleading name since we really
> aren't invalidating but just clearing the cache. I'll rename it.
> Anyways...
> 
> > So it walks completely the wrong list of threads.
> 
> But we still need to deal with the rest of the tasks in the system, so
> anytime there's an overflow we need to nullify all cached vmas, not just
> current's. Am I missing something special about fork?
> 
> > In fact, the sequence number of the old vm and the sequence number of
> > the new vm cannot in any way be related.
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the only sane thing to do at fork/clone() time is to:
> > 
> >  - clear all the cache entries (of the new 'struct task_struct'! - so
> > not in dup_mmap, but make sure it's zeroed when allocating!)(
> 
> Right, but that's done upon the first lookup, when vmacache_valid() is
> false.
> 
> >  - set vmcache_seqnum to 0 in dup_mmap (since any sequence number is
> > fine when it got invalidated, and 0 is best for "avoid overflow").
> 
> Assuming your referring to curr->vmacache_seqnum (since mm's is already
> set).. isn't it irrelevant since we set it anyways when the first lookup
> fails?

Never mind, I see your referring to the mm seqnum. Sounds like it's an
interesting alternative to the CONFIG_MMU workaround. I will look into
it.

Thanks,
Davidlohr


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From: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
	"Chandramouleeswaran, Aswin" <aswin@hp.com>,
	"Norton, Scott J" <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: per-thread vma caching
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:30:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1393356602.2577.54.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1393355040.2577.52.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>

On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 11:04 -0800, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 10:37 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com> wrote:
> > > index a17621c..14396bf 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/fork.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/fork.c
> > > @@ -363,7 +363,12 @@ static int dup_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm, struct mm_struct *oldmm)
> > >
> > >         mm->locked_vm = 0;
> > >         mm->mmap = NULL;
> > > -       mm->mmap_cache = NULL;
> > > +       mm->vmacache_seqnum = oldmm->vmacache_seqnum + 1;
> > > +
> > > +       /* deal with overflows */
> > > +       if (unlikely(mm->vmacache_seqnum == 0))
> > > +               vmacache_invalidate_all();
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but this can not possibly be correct.
> > 
> > vmacache_invalidate_all() walks over all the threads of the current
> > process, but "mm" here is the mm of the *new* process that is getting
> > created, and is unrelated in all ways to the threads of the old
> > process.
> 
> vmacache_invalidate_all() is actually a misleading name since we really
> aren't invalidating but just clearing the cache. I'll rename it.
> Anyways...
> 
> > So it walks completely the wrong list of threads.
> 
> But we still need to deal with the rest of the tasks in the system, so
> anytime there's an overflow we need to nullify all cached vmas, not just
> current's. Am I missing something special about fork?
> 
> > In fact, the sequence number of the old vm and the sequence number of
> > the new vm cannot in any way be related.
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the only sane thing to do at fork/clone() time is to:
> > 
> >  - clear all the cache entries (of the new 'struct task_struct'! - so
> > not in dup_mmap, but make sure it's zeroed when allocating!)(
> 
> Right, but that's done upon the first lookup, when vmacache_valid() is
> false.
> 
> >  - set vmcache_seqnum to 0 in dup_mmap (since any sequence number is
> > fine when it got invalidated, and 0 is best for "avoid overflow").
> 
> Assuming your referring to curr->vmacache_seqnum (since mm's is already
> set).. isn't it irrelevant since we set it anyways when the first lookup
> fails?

Never mind, I see your referring to the mm seqnum. Sounds like it's an
interesting alternative to the CONFIG_MMU workaround. I will look into
it.

Thanks,
Davidlohr

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-25 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-25 18:16 [PATCH v2] mm: per-thread vma caching Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 18:16 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 18:24 ` Rik van Riel
2014-02-25 18:24   ` Rik van Riel
2014-02-25 18:36   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 18:36     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 18:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-25 18:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-25 18:37   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 18:37     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 19:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-25 19:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-25 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-25 18:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-25 18:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-25 18:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-25 19:04   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 19:04     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 19:30     ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2014-02-25 19:30       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-25 19:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-25 19:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2014-02-26  2:04 ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-02-26  2:04   ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-02-26  4:04   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-26  4:04     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-26  7:52     ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-02-26  7:52       ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-02-26  8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26  8:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26  8:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-26 11:26 ` Mel Gorman
2014-02-26 11:26   ` Mel Gorman
2014-02-26 19:11   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-02-26 19:11     ` Davidlohr Bueso

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