* [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
@ 2014-05-01 11:42 Matthias Schneider
2014-05-01 12:54 ` Philippe Gerum
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Schneider @ 2014-05-01 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xenomai
Hi all,
it seems __threadobj_unlock_sched has a slight bug
and does not reset the current->policy value.
This leads to the old policy being restored, but
no longer being available for the next
__threadobj_lock_sched / __threadobj_unlock_sched
call pair.
The attached patch fixes it.
Regards,
Matthias
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* Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
2014-05-01 11:42 [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury) Matthias Schneider
@ 2014-05-01 12:54 ` Philippe Gerum
2014-05-01 14:23 ` Matthias Schneider
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From: Philippe Gerum @ 2014-05-01 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Schneider, xenomai
On 05/01/2014 01:42 PM, Matthias Schneider wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> it seems __threadobj_unlock_sched has a slight bug
> and does not reset the current->policy value.
> This leads to the old policy being restored, but
> no longer being available for the next
> __threadobj_lock_sched / __threadobj_unlock_sched
> call pair.
>
That would mean that the client code switches between different
scheduling policies while holding the scheduler lock?
--
Philippe.
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* Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
2014-05-01 12:54 ` Philippe Gerum
@ 2014-05-01 14:23 ` Matthias Schneider
2014-05-02 8:27 ` Philippe Gerum
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Schneider @ 2014-05-01 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philippe Gerum, xenomai
----- Original Message -----
> From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
> To: Matthias Schneider <ma30002000@yahoo.de>; "xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
> Cc:
> Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
>
> On 05/01/2014 01:42 PM, Matthias Schneider wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> it seems __threadobj_unlock_sched has a slight bug
>> and does not reset the current->policy value.
>> This leads to the old policy being restored, but
>> no longer being available for the next
>> __threadobj_lock_sched / __threadobj_unlock_sched
>> call pair.
>>
>
> That would mean that the client code switches between different
> scheduling policies while holding the scheduler lock?
>
> --
> Philippe.
>
Consider the following scenario:
a) threads may hold SCHED_RT, SCHED_RR or SCHED_OTHER while not in
threadobj_lock_sched(). (see e.g. threadobj_set_priority).
b) threadobj_lock_sched() saves prio and policy and sets it to
SCHED_RT/threadobj_lock_prio
c) threadobj_unlock_sched() will restore (correctly) previous
settings, but not update the threadobj's policy
d) next time threadobj_lock_sched() is called, it will save prio
and priority, howver policy will always be SCHED_RT (which is
not the currently set policy before upgrading it)
e) threadobj_unlock_sched() will restore prio and incorrectly saved
policy, which is always SCHED_RT -> threads that originally had
SCHED_RR or SCHED_OTHER now have SCHED_RT
Changing prio while holding the scheduler lock should be handled
fine due to :
threadobj_set_priority():
if (thobj->schedlock_depth > 0) {
thobj->core.prio_unlocked = prio;
thobj->core.policy_unlocked = prio ? SCHED_RT : SCHED_OTHER;
threadobj_unlock(thobj);
return 0;
}
Matthias
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* Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
2014-05-01 14:23 ` Matthias Schneider
@ 2014-05-02 8:27 ` Philippe Gerum
2014-05-17 14:20 ` Matthias Schneider
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Gerum @ 2014-05-02 8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Schneider, xenomai
On 05/01/2014 04:23 PM, Matthias Schneider wrote:
> b) threadobj_lock_sched() saves prio and policy and sets it to
> SCHED_RT/threadobj_lock_prio
Forcing SCHED_RT in threadobj_lock() is the core issue. Doing so allows
SCHED_OTHER callers to hold that lock: does it make sense? Maybe it's
handy so that client code does not have to care, on the other hand, this
very much sounds like introducing priority inversion by design.
What would be the use case for holding the sched lock over SCHED_OTHER?
--
Philippe.
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* Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
2014-05-02 8:27 ` Philippe Gerum
@ 2014-05-17 14:20 ` Matthias Schneider
2014-05-19 13:38 ` Philippe Gerum
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Schneider @ 2014-05-17 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philippe Gerum, xenomai
----- Original Message -----
> From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
> To: Matthias Schneider <ma30002000@yahoo.de>; "xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
>
> On 05/01/2014 04:23 PM, Matthias Schneider wrote:
>
>> b) threadobj_lock_sched() saves prio and policy and sets it to
>> SCHED_RT/threadobj_lock_prio
>
> Forcing SCHED_RT in threadobj_lock() is the core issue. Doing so allows
> SCHED_OTHER callers to hold that lock: does it make sense? Maybe it's
> handy so that client code does not have to care, on the other hand, this
> very much sounds like introducing priority inversion by design.
>
> What would be the use case for holding the sched lock over SCHED_OTHER?
>
>
> --
> Philippe.
>
There are some points I would like to raise about this issue:
a) the policy active before holding the "scheduler lock" is actually reapplied,
but the threadobj info about this is left inconsistent
b) independent from wether SCHED_OTHER is a use case, SCHED_RR and SCHED_RT/SCHED_FIFO
definitely are.
c) In my recently published FreeRTOS prototype, the "main" thread calling
TaskSchedulerStart is actually a SCHED_OTHER thread that takes the scheduler
lock
Nevertheless, please have a look at the code again, it seems like a simple bug
to me.
Consider the following:
current task is SCHED_RR, prio 5
threadobj_lock_sched()
-> SCHED_RT, prio 99
threadobj_unlock_sched()
-> SCHED_RR, prio 5
threadobj_lock_sched()
-> SCHED_RT, prio 99
threadobj_unlock_sched()
-> SCHED_RT(!), prio 5
Regards,
Matthias
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* Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
2014-05-17 14:20 ` Matthias Schneider
@ 2014-05-19 13:38 ` Philippe Gerum
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Gerum @ 2014-05-19 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthias Schneider, xenomai
On 05/17/2014 04:20 PM, Matthias Schneider wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
>> To: Matthias Schneider <ma30002000@yahoo.de>; "xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 10:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Xenomai] Issue in __threadobj_unlock_sched (forge/mercury)
>>
>> On 05/01/2014 04:23 PM, Matthias Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> b) threadobj_lock_sched() saves prio and policy and sets it to
>>> SCHED_RT/threadobj_lock_prio
>>
>> Forcing SCHED_RT in threadobj_lock() is the core issue. Doing so allows
>> SCHED_OTHER callers to hold that lock: does it make sense? Maybe it's
>> handy so that client code does not have to care, on the other hand, this
>> very much sounds like introducing priority inversion by design.
>>
>> What would be the use case for holding the sched lock over SCHED_OTHER?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Philippe.
>>
>
> There are some points I would like to raise about this issue:
>
> a) the policy active before holding the "scheduler lock" is actually reapplied,
> but the threadobj info about this is left inconsistent
> b) independent from wether SCHED_OTHER is a use case, SCHED_RR and SCHED_RT/SCHED_FIFO
> definitely are.
> c) In my recently published FreeRTOS prototype, the "main" thread calling
> TaskSchedulerStart is actually a SCHED_OTHER thread that takes the scheduler
> lock
>
> Nevertheless, please have a look at the code again, it seems like a simple bug
> to me.
>
It's on hold for now, as it could be part of a more general rework of
the threadobj_set_priority() interface. I will definitely follow up asap
on this though.
--
Philippe.
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