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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>
To: Javier Martinez Canillas <javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
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	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Daniel Stone <daniels@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Add Maxim 77802 PMIC support
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:45:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1402386310.6989.22.camel@AMDC1943> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53963B5D.8090908@collabora.co.uk>

On wto, 2014-06-10 at 00:55 +0200, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> Hello Krzystof,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your feedback.
> 
> On 06/09/2014 06:04 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > Krzystof,
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski
> > <k.kozlowski@samsung.com> wrote:
> >> On pon, 2014-06-09 at 11:37 +0200, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >>> MAX77802 is a PMIC that contains 10 high efficiency Buck regulators,
> >>> 32 Low-dropout (LDO) regulators, two 32kHz buffered clock outputs,
> >>> a Real-Time-Clock (RTC) and a I2C interface to program the individual
> >>> regulators, clocks and the RTC.
> >>>
> >>> This series are based on drivers added by Simon Glass to the Chrome OS
> >>> kernel and adds support for the Maxim 77802 Power Management IC, their
> >>> regulators, clocks, RTC and I2C interface. It is composed of patches:
> >>>
> >>> [PATCH 1/5] mfd: Add driver for Maxim 77802 Power Management IC
> >>> [PATCH 2/5] regulator: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC regulators
> >>> [PATCH 3/5] clk: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC clocks
> >>> [PATCH 4/5] rtc: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC Real-Time-Clock
> >>> [PATCH 5/5] ARM: dts: Add max77802 device node for exynos5420-peach-pit
> >>>
> >>> Patches 1-4 add support for the different devices and Patch 5 enables
> >>> the MAX77802 PMIC on the Exynos5420 based Peach pit board.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The main mfd, mfd irq, clk and rtc drivers look very similar to max77686
> >> drivers. I haven't checked other Maxim drivers but I think there will be
> >> a lot of similarities with them also. It is almost common for Maxim
> >> chipsets to share components between each other.
> >>
> >> I think there is no need in duplicating all that stuff once again in new
> >> driver for another Maxim-almost-the-same-as-others-XYZ chipset. Just
> >> merge it with max77686 (or other better candidate).
> >>
> >> The only difference is in regulator driver. I am not sure whether this
> >> is a result of differences in chip or differences in driver design.
> > 
> > Yes, we thought the same thing when we added support for the max77802
> > in the ChromeOS tree.  Unfortunately it didn't work out half as well
> > as we thought it would.  When Javier was asking advice about sending
> > things upstream we suggested that perhaps he should split the two up.
> > 
> > 
> > You can see the result of the combined driver the ChromeOS tree (the
> > code there is older, probably misnamed as max77xxx, and doesn't have
> > the proper clock pieces, but you can get the gist):
> > 
> > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/chromeos-3.8/drivers/regulator/max77xxx-regulator.c
> > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/chromeos-3.8/drivers/rtc/rtc-max77xxx.c
> > 
> > 
> > Specific problems that made it ugly to have a combined driver:
> > 
> > * The RTC has many subtle differences between the 77686 and 77802.
> > They expanded it to handle a 200 year timeframe instead of 100 and
> > that meant that they had to shuffle the bits around everywhere.  They
> > also moved it to have the same i2c address as the main PMIC so all
> > addresses are different (see max77686_map in the RTC link above).
> >
> > * The regulator itself has similar concepts between the two, but the
> > list of bucks / ldos and how they behave is quite different.  Trying
> > to understand the complex tables in
> > <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/chromeos-3.8/drivers/regulator/max77xxx-regulator.c>
> > was not easy.
> > 
> > 
> 
> There are other differences that were not mentioned:
> 
> - The max77802 uses a single register to enable RTC alarm while max77686 uses 1
> bit from a set of registers.

But still this will be one additional 'if' statement in one common
code...

> - Each chip has some regulators that are not available and you have to take care
> of those exceptions (e.g: LDO16, LDO22 and LD31 on max77802).

Missing/new regulator does not look like a problem to me in combined
driver from ChromeOS. The main problem with combined driver for
regulators is that you still need to provide all the
regulator_ops/regulator_desc for each of the chipsets. Thus the combined
driver is almost as big as two drivers.

> - The max77802 has 2 clocks outputs while the max77686 has three.

This leads to one exception in combined clock driver. This will still
reduce LOC.

> So, as Doug said there are many differences on these two chips besides the
> regulators. It's true that these two drivers share a lot of the structure and
> there is code duplication (this applies to most maxim drivers btw) but I have my
> doubts that the combined approach will make the code more easy to maintain.
> 
> The biggest problem is the i2c addresses space being different so you need an
> indirection level to access registers and have duplicated registers definition
> for each chip.

Yep, I agree. I had the same problem with S5M/S2M RTC driver and I am
not quite sure that I've chosen the right solution :).

> > If we really need to write a single driver it certainly can be done,
> > but please look at the above to be sure this is what you want.
> > 
> >
> 
> Yes, if the combined driver is preferred over having a separate driver for
> max77802 then I will try to find the more elegant way to merge both drivers. But
> I tried to do it already and I can't say I liked the end result more than having
> two separate drivers.
> 
> > NOTE: it's possible that things could be more sane with more driver
> > redesign, possibly making things more data driven.  The thing that
> > would be really nice to do would be to avoid all of the crazy
> > "regulator_zzz_desc_zzz" macros, maybe?  I'd have to actually try
> > doing it to be sure it's cleaner, though...
> > 
> 
> Another option is to use an hybrid approach. Merge the mfd core, irq and clk
> drivers but have different platform drivers for rtc and regulators.

I think that would be the best solution. Probably it would be useful to
convert the max77686 IRQ code to regmap_irq_chip but I do not insist on
that.

Best regards,
Krzysztof


> Still the
> end result is not great imho but better than trying merging the regulators and
> RTC drivers where most of the differences are.


> 
> > 
> > -Doug
> > 
> 
> Best regards,
> Javier


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: k.kozlowski@samsung.com (Krzysztof Kozlowski)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/5] Add Maxim 77802 PMIC support
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:45:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1402386310.6989.22.camel@AMDC1943> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53963B5D.8090908@collabora.co.uk>

On wto, 2014-06-10 at 00:55 +0200, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> Hello Krzystof,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your feedback.
> 
> On 06/09/2014 06:04 PM, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > Krzystof,
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski
> > <k.kozlowski@samsung.com> wrote:
> >> On pon, 2014-06-09 at 11:37 +0200, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> >>> MAX77802 is a PMIC that contains 10 high efficiency Buck regulators,
> >>> 32 Low-dropout (LDO) regulators, two 32kHz buffered clock outputs,
> >>> a Real-Time-Clock (RTC) and a I2C interface to program the individual
> >>> regulators, clocks and the RTC.
> >>>
> >>> This series are based on drivers added by Simon Glass to the Chrome OS
> >>> kernel and adds support for the Maxim 77802 Power Management IC, their
> >>> regulators, clocks, RTC and I2C interface. It is composed of patches:
> >>>
> >>> [PATCH 1/5] mfd: Add driver for Maxim 77802 Power Management IC
> >>> [PATCH 2/5] regulator: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC regulators
> >>> [PATCH 3/5] clk: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC clocks
> >>> [PATCH 4/5] rtc: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC Real-Time-Clock
> >>> [PATCH 5/5] ARM: dts: Add max77802 device node for exynos5420-peach-pit
> >>>
> >>> Patches 1-4 add support for the different devices and Patch 5 enables
> >>> the MAX77802 PMIC on the Exynos5420 based Peach pit board.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The main mfd, mfd irq, clk and rtc drivers look very similar to max77686
> >> drivers. I haven't checked other Maxim drivers but I think there will be
> >> a lot of similarities with them also. It is almost common for Maxim
> >> chipsets to share components between each other.
> >>
> >> I think there is no need in duplicating all that stuff once again in new
> >> driver for another Maxim-almost-the-same-as-others-XYZ chipset. Just
> >> merge it with max77686 (or other better candidate).
> >>
> >> The only difference is in regulator driver. I am not sure whether this
> >> is a result of differences in chip or differences in driver design.
> > 
> > Yes, we thought the same thing when we added support for the max77802
> > in the ChromeOS tree.  Unfortunately it didn't work out half as well
> > as we thought it would.  When Javier was asking advice about sending
> > things upstream we suggested that perhaps he should split the two up.
> > 
> > 
> > You can see the result of the combined driver the ChromeOS tree (the
> > code there is older, probably misnamed as max77xxx, and doesn't have
> > the proper clock pieces, but you can get the gist):
> > 
> > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/chromeos-3.8/drivers/regulator/max77xxx-regulator.c
> > https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/chromeos-3.8/drivers/rtc/rtc-max77xxx.c
> > 
> > 
> > Specific problems that made it ugly to have a combined driver:
> > 
> > * The RTC has many subtle differences between the 77686 and 77802.
> > They expanded it to handle a 200 year timeframe instead of 100 and
> > that meant that they had to shuffle the bits around everywhere.  They
> > also moved it to have the same i2c address as the main PMIC so all
> > addresses are different (see max77686_map in the RTC link above).
> >
> > * The regulator itself has similar concepts between the two, but the
> > list of bucks / ldos and how they behave is quite different.  Trying
> > to understand the complex tables in
> > <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/chromeos-3.8/drivers/regulator/max77xxx-regulator.c>
> > was not easy.
> > 
> > 
> 
> There are other differences that were not mentioned:
> 
> - The max77802 uses a single register to enable RTC alarm while max77686 uses 1
> bit from a set of registers.

But still this will be one additional 'if' statement in one common
code...

> - Each chip has some regulators that are not available and you have to take care
> of those exceptions (e.g: LDO16, LDO22 and LD31 on max77802).

Missing/new regulator does not look like a problem to me in combined
driver from ChromeOS. The main problem with combined driver for
regulators is that you still need to provide all the
regulator_ops/regulator_desc for each of the chipsets. Thus the combined
driver is almost as big as two drivers.

> - The max77802 has 2 clocks outputs while the max77686 has three.

This leads to one exception in combined clock driver. This will still
reduce LOC.

> So, as Doug said there are many differences on these two chips besides the
> regulators. It's true that these two drivers share a lot of the structure and
> there is code duplication (this applies to most maxim drivers btw) but I have my
> doubts that the combined approach will make the code more easy to maintain.
> 
> The biggest problem is the i2c addresses space being different so you need an
> indirection level to access registers and have duplicated registers definition
> for each chip.

Yep, I agree. I had the same problem with S5M/S2M RTC driver and I am
not quite sure that I've chosen the right solution :).

> > If we really need to write a single driver it certainly can be done,
> > but please look at the above to be sure this is what you want.
> > 
> >
> 
> Yes, if the combined driver is preferred over having a separate driver for
> max77802 then I will try to find the more elegant way to merge both drivers. But
> I tried to do it already and I can't say I liked the end result more than having
> two separate drivers.
> 
> > NOTE: it's possible that things could be more sane with more driver
> > redesign, possibly making things more data driven.  The thing that
> > would be really nice to do would be to avoid all of the crazy
> > "regulator_zzz_desc_zzz" macros, maybe?  I'd have to actually try
> > doing it to be sure it's cleaner, though...
> > 
> 
> Another option is to use an hybrid approach. Merge the mfd core, irq and clk
> drivers but have different platform drivers for rtc and regulators.

I think that would be the best solution. Probably it would be useful to
convert the max77686 IRQ code to regmap_irq_chip but I do not insist on
that.

Best regards,
Krzysztof


> Still the
> end result is not great imho but better than trying merging the regulators and
> RTC drivers where most of the differences are.


> 
> > 
> > -Doug
> > 
> 
> Best regards,
> Javier

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-10  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-09  9:37 [PATCH 0/5] Add Maxim 77802 PMIC support Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] mfd: Add driver for Maxim 77802 Power Management IC Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 10:22   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-09 10:22     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-09 11:56     ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 11:56       ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 23:07     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 23:07       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 19:47   ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 19:47     ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 23:40     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 23:40       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] regulator: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC regulators Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 19:38   ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 19:38     ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 19:38     ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09 23:29     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 23:29       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-10 10:53       ` Mark Brown
2014-06-10 10:53         ` Mark Brown
2014-06-09  9:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] clk: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC clocks Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-16  8:44   ` Lee Jones
2014-06-16  8:44     ` Lee Jones
2014-06-16  8:54     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-16  8:54       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] rtc: Add driver for Maxim 77802 PMIC Real-Time-Clock Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: dts: Add max77802 device node for exynos5420-peach-pit Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09  9:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 10:16 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add Maxim 77802 PMIC support Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-09 10:16   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-09 16:04   ` Doug Anderson
2014-06-09 16:04     ` Doug Anderson
2014-06-09 16:04     ` Doug Anderson
2014-06-09 22:55     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 22:55       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 22:55       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-09 23:57       ` Doug Anderson
2014-06-09 23:57         ` Doug Anderson
2014-06-09 23:57         ` Doug Anderson
2014-06-10  7:45       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2014-06-10  7:45         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-10  7:45         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-10  7:32     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-10  7:32       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-10  7:32       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2014-06-10  7:50       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-10  7:50         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-06-10  7:50         ` Javier Martinez Canillas

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