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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Dave Scott <Dave.Scott@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] Add a general description of the channel mechanism to docs/misc/
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:43:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1403102585.6568.63.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BC30FF6D-7425-451D-BB6C-5611587E9920@citrix.com>

On Wed, 2014-06-18 at 15:37 +0100, Dave Scott wrote:
> > Is this stuff all forward compatible with the existing xenconsoled etc?
> > What stops it trying to manage these guys?
> 
> To handle this through xenconsoled would involve:

What I meant was why does xenconsoled not try and manage these today and
get in the way? To which the answer is:

> 1. extending xenconsoled to watch for console device backends (like
> any other device backend). Currently xenconsoled is limited to the
> initial console only.

This (which I wasn't aware of, I thought it handled multiple).

ISTR there is a key in their which allows qemu or xenconsoled to provide
this initial console too.

> I took the qemu approach for the initial implementation because this
> is how libxl arranges for  the second/third/fourth/… consoles to be
> served (possibly because xenconsoled has never been extended).
> Personally I’d like to switch over to xenconsoled eventually rather
> than rely on qemu for ever more stuff.

I'll defer to Stefano on this. I thought the normal qemu (upstream)
approach was:

      * emulated stuff via command-line/qmp but never xenstore (in
        contrast with qemu-trad which played all sorts of tricks to
        insert IDE disks from xenstore).
      * PV stuff via watching xenstore backend paths.

Do I understand you correctly that there is a qemu patch involved in all
this, or does it just happen to work if you feed it the correct cmdline
runes?


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-16  9:49 [PATCH v2] implement libvirt-like 'channels' via PV consoles David Scott
2014-06-16  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] libxl: add a list of abstract 'channels' to the domain config David Scott
2014-06-18 13:27   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-18 14:05     ` Dave Scott
2014-06-18 14:38       ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-16  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] xl: add support for channels David Scott
2014-06-16  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] libxl: implement channels via PV console rings David Scott
2014-06-18 13:31   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-16  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] libxl: spawn a qemu to implement channels David Scott
2014-06-18 13:32   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-16  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] Add a section in xl.cfg(5) describing 'channels' David Scott
2014-06-18 13:38   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-16  9:49 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] Add a general description of the channel mechanism to docs/misc/ David Scott
2014-06-18 13:41   ` Ian Campbell
2014-06-18 14:37     ` Dave Scott
2014-06-18 14:43       ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-06-18 15:00         ` Dave Scott
2014-06-16 13:34 ` [PATCH v2] implement libvirt-like 'channels' via PV consoles Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-16 13:49   ` Dave Scott
2014-06-16 13:52     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 13:43       ` Ian Campbell

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