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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eyal Perry <eyalpe@dev.mellanox.co.il>
Subject: Re: Throughput regression with `tcp: refine TSO autosizing`
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:24:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1424773495.2192.23.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+BoTQnxo-x94uVfErZO43jTowVcEMEt+7xDzoAGiR8fRDv=ug@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20150212_084824_976893_36D95ADD)

On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 08:48 +0100, Michal Kazior wrote:

> > Good point. I was actually thinking about it. I can try cooking a
> > patch unless you want to do it yourself :-)
> 
> I've taken a look into this. The most obvious place to add the
> timestamp for each packet would be ieee80211_tx_info (i.e. the
> skb->cb[48]). The problem is it's very tight there. Even squeezing 2
> bytes (allowing up to 64ms of tx completion delay which I'm worried
> won't be enough) will be troublesome. Some drivers already use every
> last byte of their allowance on 64bit archs (e.g. ar5523 uses entire
> 40 bytes of driver_data).

Couldn't we just repurpose the existing skb->tstamp field for this, as
long as the skb is fully contained within the wireless layer?

Actually, it looks like we can't, since I guess timestamping options can
be turned on on any socket.

> I wonder if it's okay to bump skb->cb to 56 bytes to avoid the cascade
> of changes required to implement the tx completion delay accounting?

I have no doubt that would be rejected :)

johannes


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From: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior-++hxYGjEMp0AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet
	<eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-wireless
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Network Development
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Eyal Perry
	<eyalpe-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Throughput regression with `tcp: refine TSO autosizing`
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:24:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1424773495.2192.23.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+BoTQnxo-x94uVfErZO43jTowVcEMEt+7xDzoAGiR8fRDv=ug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> (sfid-20150212_084824_976893_36D95ADD)

On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 08:48 +0100, Michal Kazior wrote:

> > Good point. I was actually thinking about it. I can try cooking a
> > patch unless you want to do it yourself :-)
> 
> I've taken a look into this. The most obvious place to add the
> timestamp for each packet would be ieee80211_tx_info (i.e. the
> skb->cb[48]). The problem is it's very tight there. Even squeezing 2
> bytes (allowing up to 64ms of tx completion delay which I'm worried
> won't be enough) will be troublesome. Some drivers already use every
> last byte of their allowance on 64bit archs (e.g. ar5523 uses entire
> 40 bytes of driver_data).

Couldn't we just repurpose the existing skb->tstamp field for this, as
long as the skb is fully contained within the wireless layer?

Actually, it looks like we can't, since I guess timestamping options can
be turned on on any socket.

> I wonder if it's okay to bump skb->cb to 56 bytes to avoid the cascade
> of changes required to implement the tx completion delay accounting?

I have no doubt that would be rejected :)

johannes

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-24 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-29 11:48 Throughput regression with `tcp: refine TSO autosizing` Michal Kazior
2015-01-29 13:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-01-30 10:29   ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-30 13:19     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-01-30 13:19       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-01-30 13:47       ` Arend van Spriel
2015-01-30 14:37         ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]         ` <CAA93jw5fqhz0Hiw74L2GXgtZ9JsMg+NtYydKxKzGDrvQcZn4hA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <CAA93jw7b0E9jjQYXrEPzjLLC9j8xNC0TFYXpWVtgFameJaNBdw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <1422741065.199624134@apps.rackspace.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAPp0ZBb2nkA6Y0s=W0kw=zvyn0wi0NMBRsBCw_xcD61ScOmgQg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAA_e5Z46Bu+zZZFzf_ejzA35Gw3g1_OG85yv6yd7MpbwZcE-nw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-01  8:45                   ` Fwd: " Dave Taht
2015-02-01 10:47                     ` Jonathan Morton
2015-02-01 14:43                       ` dpreed
2015-02-01 23:34                         ` Andrew McGregor
2015-02-02  4:04                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Avery Pennarun
2015-02-02  4:04                             ` Avery Pennarun
2015-02-02 15:25                             ` Jim Gettys
2015-02-02  4:21                         ` Avery Pennarun
2015-02-02  7:07                           ` David Lang
2015-02-02  7:07                             ` David Lang
2015-01-30 13:39   ` Michal Kazior
2015-01-30 13:39     ` Michal Kazior
2015-01-30 14:40     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-01-30 14:40       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-02 10:27       ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-02 10:27         ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-02 18:52         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-02 21:25           ` Ben Greear
2015-02-02 23:06             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-02 23:06               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-03  9:00               ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-03  9:00                 ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-03  1:18           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-03  1:18             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-03 11:50             ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-03 14:27               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-03 14:27                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-03 15:03                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-03 15:03                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 11:35                 ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-04 11:57                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 11:57                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 12:22                     ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-04 12:38                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 12:53                         ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-04 12:55                           ` Johannes Berg
2015-02-04 13:16                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 13:29                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 21:11                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-04 21:11                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05  6:46                                 ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-05  6:46                                   ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-05 13:03                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 13:03                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05  8:38                                 ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-05 12:57                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 13:19                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 13:33                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 13:33                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 13:44                                       ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-05 14:41                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 14:41                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 17:10                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06  9:42                                             ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-06 13:40                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 13:40                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 13:53                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 13:53                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 14:09                                                   ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-09 13:47                                                     ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-09 15:11                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-10 10:33                                                         ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-10 12:54                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-10 13:05                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-10 13:14                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-11  8:33                                                             ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-11 13:17                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-11 13:17                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-12  7:16                                                                 ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-12  7:16                                                                   ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-10 14:19                                                           ` Johannes Berg
2015-02-10 15:09                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-11  8:57                                                             ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-11  8:57                                                               ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-12  7:48                                                               ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-12  8:33                                                                 ` Dave Taht
2015-02-24 10:24                                                                 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2015-02-24 10:24                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2015-02-24 10:30                                                                   ` Johannes Berg
2015-02-24 10:59                                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2015-03-31 11:08                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2015-02-06 14:10                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 14:31                                                     ` David Laight
2015-02-06 14:31                                                       ` David Laight
2015-02-06 15:02                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 15:02                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 14:08                                                 ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-06 14:08                                                   ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-06 14:35                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 14:35                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06 17:48                                                     ` Rick Jones
2015-02-06 17:48                                                       ` Rick Jones
2015-02-05 14:48                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-05 14:48                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-06  9:39                                           ` Nicolas Cavallari
2015-02-06  9:39                                             ` Nicolas Cavallari
2015-02-05 19:50                                         ` Dave Taht
2015-02-06  9:57                                           ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-06  9:57                                             ` Michal Kazior
2015-02-03  8:44           ` Michal Kazior

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