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* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/1] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate
@ 2015-06-15 10:50 Denis V. Lunev
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2015-06-15 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova,
	James.Bottomley, Anthony Liguori, Denis V. Lunev

Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.

This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.

To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
killer to run.

This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
is set on the device. It is off by default.

This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
linux-next at the moment)

  commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
  Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
  Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030

This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.

Changes from v6:
- ported to virtio_add_feature

Changes from v5:
- ported to QEMU current

Changes from v4:
- spelling corrected according to suggestions from Eric Blake

Changes from v3:
- ported to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git tags/for_upstream_rebased

Changes from v2:
- fixed mistake with bit number in virtio_balloon_get_features

Changes from v1:
- From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership
- feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done
  without additional field, but this will require to move the property
  level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level.

Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/1] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate
  2015-06-23  5:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
@ 2015-06-23 13:23       ` James Bottomley
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: James Bottomley @ 2015-06-23 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael S. Tsirkin
  Cc: Denis V. Lunev, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori

On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 07:32 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 02:09:48PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 15:56 +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > > On 15/06/15 13:52, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > > > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
> > > > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
> > > > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
> > > > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
> > > > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
> > > > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
> > > > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
> > > > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
> > > > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.
> > > >
> > > > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
> > > > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
> > > > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.
> > > >
> > > > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
> > > > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
> > > > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
> > > > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
> > > > killer to run.
> > > >
> > > > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
> > > > is set on the device. It is off by default.
> > > >
> > > > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
> > > > linux-next at the moment)
> > > >
> > > >    commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
> > > >    Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
> > > >    Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030
> > > >
> > > > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
> > > > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.
> > > >
> > > > Changes from v6:
> > > > - ported to virtio_add_feature
> > > >
> > > > Changes from v5:
> > > > - ported to QEMU current
> > > >
> > > > Changes from v4:
> > > > - spelling corrected according to suggestions from Eric Blake
> > > >
> > > > Changes from v3:
> > > > - ported to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git tags/for_upstream_rebased
> > > >
> > > > Changes from v2:
> > > > - fixed mistake with bit number in virtio_balloon_get_features
> > > >
> > > > Changes from v1:
> > > > - From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership
> > > > - feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done
> > > >    without additional field, but this will require to move the property
> > > >    level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > > > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
> > > > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Sorry for resend (if you have caught additional patch), I have
> > > >       expirienced some troubles in the process
> > > >
> > > ping
> > 
> > We seem to have become bogged down in a dispute over whether this flag
> > should be automatically enabled or disabled.  To be honest, we don't
> > care, since we're going to be shipping qemu configured according to our
> > requirements (as are most other distros anyway).
> > 
> > However, for the sake of getting the patch in, what about putting it in
> > as is (default disable) because that has no impact to the status quo.
> > If it later turns out everyone ships in a default enabled configuration,
> > why then someone can patch upstream qemu to match.
> > 
> > James
> > 
> 
> Great, so I get your ack on it?

Sure, but I wasn't aware you were waiting for it

Acked-by: James Bottomley <JBottomley@Odin.com>

James

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/1] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate
  2015-06-22 21:09   ` James Bottomley
@ 2015-06-23  5:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  2015-06-23 13:23       ` James Bottomley
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael S. Tsirkin @ 2015-06-23  5:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: James Bottomley
  Cc: Denis V. Lunev, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 02:09:48PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 15:56 +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > On 15/06/15 13:52, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
> > > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
> > > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
> > > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
> > > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
> > > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
> > > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
> > > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
> > > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.
> > >
> > > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
> > > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
> > > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.
> > >
> > > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
> > > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
> > > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
> > > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
> > > killer to run.
> > >
> > > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
> > > is set on the device. It is off by default.
> > >
> > > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
> > > linux-next at the moment)
> > >
> > >    commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
> > >    Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
> > >    Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030
> > >
> > > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
> > > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.
> > >
> > > Changes from v6:
> > > - ported to virtio_add_feature
> > >
> > > Changes from v5:
> > > - ported to QEMU current
> > >
> > > Changes from v4:
> > > - spelling corrected according to suggestions from Eric Blake
> > >
> > > Changes from v3:
> > > - ported to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git tags/for_upstream_rebased
> > >
> > > Changes from v2:
> > > - fixed mistake with bit number in virtio_balloon_get_features
> > >
> > > Changes from v1:
> > > - From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership
> > > - feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done
> > >    without additional field, but this will require to move the property
> > >    level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
> > > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > P.S. Sorry for resend (if you have caught additional patch), I have
> > >       expirienced some troubles in the process
> > >
> > ping
> 
> We seem to have become bogged down in a dispute over whether this flag
> should be automatically enabled or disabled.  To be honest, we don't
> care, since we're going to be shipping qemu configured according to our
> requirements (as are most other distros anyway).
> 
> However, for the sake of getting the patch in, what about putting it in
> as is (default disable) because that has no impact to the status quo.
> If it later turns out everyone ships in a default enabled configuration,
> why then someone can patch upstream qemu to match.
> 
> James
> 

Great, so I get your ack on it?

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/1] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate
  2015-06-22 12:56 ` Denis V. Lunev
@ 2015-06-22 21:09   ` James Bottomley
  2015-06-23  5:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: James Bottomley @ 2015-06-22 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denis V. Lunev
  Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori

On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 15:56 +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> On 15/06/15 13:52, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
> > when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
> > responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
> > is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
> > react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
> > invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
> > should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
> > balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
> > the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.
> >
> > This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
> > inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
> > some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.
> >
> > To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
> > expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
> > function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
> > system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
> > killer to run.
> >
> > This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
> > is set on the device. It is off by default.
> >
> > This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
> > linux-next at the moment)
> >
> >    commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
> >    Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
> >    Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030
> >
> > This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
> > deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.
> >
> > Changes from v6:
> > - ported to virtio_add_feature
> >
> > Changes from v5:
> > - ported to QEMU current
> >
> > Changes from v4:
> > - spelling corrected according to suggestions from Eric Blake
> >
> > Changes from v3:
> > - ported to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git tags/for_upstream_rebased
> >
> > Changes from v2:
> > - fixed mistake with bit number in virtio_balloon_get_features
> >
> > Changes from v1:
> > - From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership
> > - feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done
> >    without additional field, but this will require to move the property
> >    level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
> > CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >
> > P.S. Sorry for resend (if you have caught additional patch), I have
> >       expirienced some troubles in the process
> >
> ping

We seem to have become bogged down in a dispute over whether this flag
should be automatically enabled or disabled.  To be honest, we don't
care, since we're going to be shipping qemu configured according to our
requirements (as are most other distros anyway).

However, for the sake of getting the patch in, what about putting it in
as is (default disable) because that has no impact to the status quo.
If it later turns out everyone ships in a default enabled configuration,
why then someone can patch upstream qemu to match.

James

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/1] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate
  2015-06-15 10:52 Denis V. Lunev
@ 2015-06-22 12:56 ` Denis V. Lunev
  2015-06-22 21:09   ` James Bottomley
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2015-06-22 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: James.Bottomley, Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel,
	Raushaniya Maksudova, Anthony Liguori

On 15/06/15 13:52, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
> when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
> responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
> is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
> react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
> invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
> should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
> balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
> the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.
>
> This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
> inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
> some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.
>
> To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
> expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
> function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
> system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
> killer to run.
>
> This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
> is set on the device. It is off by default.
>
> This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
> linux-next at the moment)
>
>    commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
>    Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
>    Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030
>
> This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
> deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.
>
> Changes from v6:
> - ported to virtio_add_feature
>
> Changes from v5:
> - ported to QEMU current
>
> Changes from v4:
> - spelling corrected according to suggestions from Eric Blake
>
> Changes from v3:
> - ported to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git tags/for_upstream_rebased
>
> Changes from v2:
> - fixed mistake with bit number in virtio_balloon_get_features
>
> Changes from v1:
> - From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership
> - feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done
>    without additional field, but this will require to move the property
>    level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level.
>
> Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
> Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
> CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>
> P.S. Sorry for resend (if you have caught additional patch), I have
>       expirienced some troubles in the process
>
ping

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/1] balloon: add a feature bit to let Guest OS deflate
@ 2015-06-15 10:52 Denis V. Lunev
  2015-06-22 12:56 ` Denis V. Lunev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Denis V. Lunev @ 2015-06-15 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin, qemu-devel, Raushaniya Maksudova,
	James.Bottomley, Anthony Liguori, Denis V. Lunev

Excessive virtio_balloon inflation can cause invocation of OOM-killer,
when Linux is under severe memory pressure. Various mechanisms are
responsible for correct virtio_balloon memory management. Nevertheless it
is often the case that these control tools does not have enough time to
react on fast changing memory load. As a result OS runs out of memory and
invokes OOM-killer. The balancing of memory by use of the virtio balloon
should not cause the termination of processes while there are pages in the
balloon. Now there is no way for virtio balloon driver to free memory at
the last moment before some process get killed by OOM-killer.

This does not provide a security breach as balloon itself is running
inside Guest OS and is working in the cooperation with the host. Thus
some improvements from Guest side should be considered as normal.

To solve the problem, introduce a virtio_balloon callback which is
expected to be called from the oom notifier call chain in out_of_memory()
function. If virtio balloon could release some memory, it will make the
system to return and retry the allocation that forced the out of memory
killer to run.

This behavior should be enabled if and only if appropriate feature bit
is set on the device. It is off by default.

This functionality was recently merged into vanilla Linux (actually in
linux-next at the moment)

  commit 5a10b7dbf904bfe01bb9fcc6298f7df09eed77d5
  Author: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@parallels.com>
  Date:   Mon Nov 10 09:36:29 2014 +1030

This patch adds respective control bits into QEMU. It introduces
deflate-on-oom option for baloon device which do the trick.

Changes from v6:
- ported to virtio_add_feature

Changes from v5:
- ported to QEMU current

Changes from v4:
- spelling corrected according to suggestions from Eric Blake

Changes from v3:
- ported to git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/mst/qemu.git tags/for_upstream_rebased

Changes from v2:
- fixed mistake with bit number in virtio_balloon_get_features

Changes from v1:
- From: in patch 1 according to the original ownership
- feature processing in patch 2 as suggested by Michael. It could be done
  without additional field, but this will require to move the property
  level up, i.e. to PCI & CCW level.

Signed-off-by: Raushaniya Maksudova <rmaksudova@virtuozzo.com>
Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
CC: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@amazon.com>
CC: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

P.S. Sorry for resend (if you have caught additional patch), I have
     expirienced some troubles in the process

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