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From: Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>
To: Shobhit Kumar <kumar@shobhit.info>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Shobhit Kumar <shobhit.kumar@intel.com>,
	linux-pwm <linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Povilas Staniulis <wdmonster@gmail.com>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-gpio <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chih-Wei Huang <cwhuang@android-x86.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 6/8] drivers/pwm: Add Crystalcove (CRC) PWM driver
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:23:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1434799402.19497.47.camel@x220> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAbrOmdGesnA+-1gz8mAWFgpSwP-R-=CZ0WjBwLamMT0f_X6bw@mail.gmail.com>

[Added Paul Gortmaker.]

Hi Shobhit,

On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 12:16 +0530, Shobhit Kumar wrote:
> So what is the exact big problem with this ?

The main problem I have is that it's hard to read a submitter's mind.
And, I think, in cases like this we need to know if the submitter just
made some silly mistake or that the mismatch (between Kconfig type and
code) was intentional. So each time such a mismatch is spotted the
submitter ought to be asked about it.

(I'd guess that one or two new drivers are submitted _each_ day. And
these mismatches are quite common. I'd say I receive answers like:
- "Oops, yes bool should have been tristate"; or
- "Oops, forgot to clean up after noticing tristate didn't work"; or
- "I just copy-and-pasted a similar driver, the module stuff isn't
  actually needed"
at least once a week. Not sure, I don't keep track of this stuff.)

Furthermore, it appears that Paul Gortmaker is on a mission to, badly
summarized, untangle the module and init code. See for instance
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/28/809 and
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/31/205 .

Now, I don't know whether (other) Paul is bothered by these MODULE_*
macros. But Paul did submit a series that adds
builtin_platform_driver(), see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/10/131 .
That new macro ensures built-in only code doesn't have to use
module_platform_driver(), which your patch also uses. So perhaps Paul
can explain some of the non-obvious issues caused by built-in only code
using module specific constructs.

> I can anyway shove out these macros to end the discussion.

I'd rather convince you than annoy you into doing as I suggested.

> BTW whether you  buy the argument or not, please do treat yourself
> with ice cream for being able to make such a comment.

Will do.

Thanks,


Paul Bolle

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From: Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>
To: Shobhit Kumar <kumar@shobhit.info>
Cc: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Shobhit Kumar <shobhit.kumar@intel.com>,
	linux-pwm <linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@linux.intel.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Povilas Staniulis <wdmonster@gmail.com>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	linux-gpio <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chih-Wei Huang <cwhuang@android-x86.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 6/8] drivers/pwm: Add Crystalcove (CRC) PWM driver
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:23:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1434799402.19497.47.camel@x220> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAbrOmdGesnA+-1gz8mAWFgpSwP-R-=CZ0WjBwLamMT0f_X6bw@mail.gmail.com>

[Added Paul Gortmaker.]

Hi Shobhit,

On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 12:16 +0530, Shobhit Kumar wrote:
> So what is the exact big problem with this ?

The main problem I have is that it's hard to read a submitter's mind.
And, I think, in cases like this we need to know if the submitter just
made some silly mistake or that the mismatch (between Kconfig type and
code) was intentional. So each time such a mismatch is spotted the
submitter ought to be asked about it.

(I'd guess that one or two new drivers are submitted _each_ day. And
these mismatches are quite common. I'd say I receive answers like:
- "Oops, yes bool should have been tristate"; or
- "Oops, forgot to clean up after noticing tristate didn't work"; or
- "I just copy-and-pasted a similar driver, the module stuff isn't
  actually needed"
at least once a week. Not sure, I don't keep track of this stuff.)

Furthermore, it appears that Paul Gortmaker is on a mission to, badly
summarized, untangle the module and init code. See for instance
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/28/809 and
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/31/205 .

Now, I don't know whether (other) Paul is bothered by these MODULE_*
macros. But Paul did submit a series that adds
builtin_platform_driver(), see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/10/131 .
That new macro ensures built-in only code doesn't have to use
module_platform_driver(), which your patch also uses. So perhaps Paul
can explain some of the non-obvious issues caused by built-in only code
using module specific constructs.

> I can anyway shove out these macros to end the discussion.

I'd rather convince you than annoy you into doing as I suggested.

> BTW whether you  buy the argument or not, please do treat yourself
> with ice cream for being able to make such a comment.

Will do.

Thanks,


Paul Bolle

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-20 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-29 13:59 [PATCH 0/8] Crystalcove (CRC) PMIC based panel and pwm control Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 13:59 ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 1/8] drivers/gpio/gpiolib: Add support for removing registered consumer lookup table Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:32   ` [PATCH 1/8] gpiolib: " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:32     ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05 10:45     ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05 10:45       ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05 15:44       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-05-05 15:44         ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-07  7:25         ` Lee Jones
2015-05-07  7:25           ` [Intel-gfx] " Lee Jones
2015-05-06 14:49   ` [PATCH 1/8] drivers/gpio/gpiolib: " Linus Walleij
2015-05-06 14:49     ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-06 15:09     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-06 15:09       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-05-12  8:52       ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-12  8:52         ` Linus Walleij
2015-04-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] drivers/pwm/core: Add support to remove registered consumer lookup tables Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:34   ` [PATCH 2/8] pwm: core: " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:34     ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-06 12:21     ` Thierry Reding
2015-05-06 12:21       ` Thierry Reding
2015-04-29 14:00 ` [PATCH 3/8] drivers/mfd: Add lookup table for Panel Control as GPIO signal Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:27   ` Lee Jones
2015-04-30  7:17     ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:29   ` Lee Jones
2015-04-29 14:29     ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05  9:36   ` [PATCH 3/8] mfd: intel_soc_pmic_core: " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-12  9:14     ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-12  9:14       ` Linus Walleij
2015-05-06 14:51   ` [PATCH 3/8] drivers/mfd: " Linus Walleij
2015-05-06 14:51     ` Linus Walleij
2015-04-29 14:00 ` [PATCH 4/8] drivers/mfd: Add PWM cell device for Crystalcove PMIC Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00   ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:25   ` Lee Jones
2015-04-29 14:25     ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05  9:36   ` [PATCH 4/8] mfd: intel_soc_pmic_crc: " Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00 ` [PATCH 5/8] drivers/mfd: ADD PWM lookup table for CRC PMIC based PWM Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00   ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:24   ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05  9:48     ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05 10:42       ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05 10:42         ` Lee Jones
2015-05-05  9:38   ` [PATCH 5/8] mfd: intel_soc_pmic_core: " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:38     ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00 ` [PATCH 6/8] drivers/pwm: Add Crystalcove (CRC) PWM driver Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00   ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-30 21:12   ` Paul Bolle
2015-06-18 17:54     ` [Intel-gfx] " Shobhit Kumar
2015-06-18 18:41       ` Paul Bolle
2015-06-19  6:46         ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-06-19  6:46           ` [Intel-gfx] " Shobhit Kumar
2015-06-20 11:23           ` Paul Bolle [this message]
2015-06-20 11:23             ` Paul Bolle
2015-06-20 18:04             ` Paul Gortmaker
2015-06-20 18:04               ` Paul Gortmaker
2015-06-22  7:55               ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-06-22  7:55                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:38   ` [PATCH 6/8] pwm: crc: " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-05  9:38     ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-06  7:40     ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-06  7:40       ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-07  7:13       ` [Intel-gfx] " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-06 12:14     ` Thierry Reding
2015-05-07  7:19       ` [Intel-gfx] " Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-20 15:09         ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-06-17  2:43           ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/i915: Use the CRC gpio for panel enable/disable Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00   ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-06 13:11   ` Jani Nikula
2015-05-06 13:11     ` Jani Nikula
2015-05-06 14:08     ` Daniel Vetter
2015-05-06 14:08       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2015-05-12 11:10   ` Linus Walleij
2015-04-29 14:00 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/i915: Backlight control using CRC PMIC based PWM driver Shobhit Kumar
2015-04-29 14:00   ` Shobhit Kumar
2015-05-01  2:03   ` shuang.he
2015-05-06 13:39   ` Jani Nikula
2015-05-06 13:39     ` Jani Nikula

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