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From: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 13:42:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <146783774807.35356.6362595927321996311__31199.7375953526$1467837915$gmane$org@resonance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577D035C.7090504@arm.com>

Hi Julien,

Quoting Julien Grall (2016-07-06 06:10:52)
> On 06/07/16 02:34, Michael Turquette wrote:
> > Hi!
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> > Quoting Dirk Behme (2016-06-30 03:32:32)
> >> Some clocks might be used by the Xen hypervisor and not by the Linux
> >> kernel. If these are not registered by the Linux kernel, they might be
> >> disabled by clk_disable_unused() as the kernel doesn't know that they
> >> are used. The clock of the serial console handled by Xen is one
> >> example for this. It might be disabled by clk_disable_unused() which
> >> stops the whole serial output, even from Xen, then.
> >
> > This whole thread had me confused until I realized that it all boiled
> > down to some nomenclature issues (for me).
> >
> > This code does not _register_ any clocks. It simply gets them and
> > enables them, which is what every other clk consumer in the Linux kernel
> > does. More details below.
> >
> >>
> >> Up to now, the workaround for this has been to use the Linux kernel
> >> command line parameter 'clk_ignore_unused'. See Xen bug
> >>
> >> http://bugs.xenproject.org/xen/bug/45
> >
> > clk_ignore_unused is a band-aid, not a proper medical solution. Setting
> > that flag will not turn clocks on for you, nor will it guarantee that
> > those clocks are never turned off in the future. It looks like you
> > figured this out correctly in the patch below but it is worth repeating.
> >
> > Also the new CLK_IS_CRITICAL flag might be of interest to you, but that
> > flag only exists as a way to enable clocks that must be enabled for the
> > system to function (hence, "critical") AND when those same clocks do not
> > have an accompanying Linux driver to consume them and enable them.
> 
> I don't think we want the kernel to enable the clock for the hypervisor. 
> We want to tell the kernel "don't touch at all to this clock, it does 
> not belong to you".

But the patch *does* touch the clock from the kernel. It enables the
clock via a call clk_prepare_enable. I'm utterly confused.

Regards,
Mike

> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Julien Grall

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-06 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-30 10:32 [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 10:32 ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 10:32 ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 14:21 ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:21 ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:21   ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:56   ` [Xen-devel] " Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 14:56     ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 15:18     ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 15:18       ` [Xen-devel] " Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 15:18       ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 15:33       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-30 15:33       ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2016-06-30 15:33         ` Julien Grall
2016-06-30 15:33         ` Julien Grall
2016-06-30 14:56   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 13:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:53   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:53   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:54   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:54   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:54     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:54     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02     ` Julien Grall
     [not found]     ` <577BBC1A.8020209-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 14:02       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:04       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:08       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:08         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:37           ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:08       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06  1:34 ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06  1:34 ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06  1:34   ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06  1:34   ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 13:10   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:10   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:10     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:16     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:16     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:16       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:26       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:26         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:26       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:48       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 13:48       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 13:48         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 20:42     ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 20:42       ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 20:42       ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-07  7:32       ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-07  7:32       ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-07  7:32         ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-07  7:32         ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  2:50         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  2:50           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  2:50           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  5:51           ` [Xen-devel] " Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  5:51             ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  5:51             ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  9:21             ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  9:21             ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2016-07-08  9:21               ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  5:51           ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  2:50         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 20:42     ` Michael Turquette [this message]
2016-07-08  6:48   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  6:48   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  6:48     ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  6:48     ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  9:35     ` Julien Grall
     [not found]     ` <20733b68-9529-bdb9-2a7d-576c8193f15c-V5te9oGctAVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-08  9:35       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  9:35         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  9:35         ` Julien Grall
2016-06-30 10:32 Dirk Behme
2016-07-05  6:50 Dirk Behme
2016-07-05  6:50 ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05  6:50 ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 10:39 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:39 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:39   ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:45   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 10:45     ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 10:45     ` Dirk Behme
     [not found]     ` <b2431af6-f415-41db-5651-8cb8d3b08822-V5te9oGctAVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 11:07       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 11:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 11:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 23:38         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 23:38         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 23:38           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 23:38           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-05 11:07     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:45   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05  6:50 Dirk Behme

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