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From: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:45:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2431af6-f415-41db-5651-8cb8d3b08822@de.bosch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160705103917.GC20478@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

On 05.07.2016 12:39, Mark Rutland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 08:50:23AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
>> Some clocks might be used by the Xen hypervisor and not by the Linux
>> kernel. If these are not registered by the Linux kernel, they might be
>> disabled by clk_disable_unused() as the kernel doesn't know that they
>> are used. The clock of the serial console handled by Xen is one
>> example for this. It might be disabled by clk_disable_unused() which
>> stops the whole serial output, even from Xen, then.
>>
>> Up to now, the workaround for this has been to use the Linux kernel
>> command line parameter 'clk_ignore_unused'. See Xen bug
>>
>> http://bugs.xenproject.org/xen/bug/45
>>
>> too.
>>
>> To fix this, we will add the "unused" clocks in Xen to the hypervisor
>> node. The Linux kernel has to register the clocks from the hypervisor
>> node, then.
>>
>> Therefore, check if there is a "clocks" entry in the hypervisor node
>> and if so register the given clocks to the Linux kernel clock
>> framework and with this mark them as used. This prevents the clocks
>> from being disabled.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
>> ---
>> Changes in v2: Drop the Linux implementation details like clk_disable_unused
>> 	       in xen.txt.
>
> Thanks for doing this.
>
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt | 13 ++++++++
>>  arch/arm/xen/enlighten.c                      | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  2 files changed, 60 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> index c9b9321..21fd469 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> @@ -17,6 +17,19 @@ the following properties:
>>    A GIC node is also required.
>>    This property is unnecessary when booting Dom0 using ACPI.
>>
>> +Optional properties:
>> +
>> +- clocks: one or more clocks to be registered.
>> +  Xen hypervisor drivers might replace native drivers, resulting in
>> +  clocks not registered by these native drivers. To avoid that these
>> +  unregistered clocks are disabled by the Linux kernel initialization
>> +  register them in the hypervisor node.
>> +  An example for this are the clocks of a serial driver already enabled
>> +  by the firmware. If the clocks used by the serial hardware interface
>> +  are not registered by the serial driver itself the serial output
>> +  might stop once the Linux kernel initialization disables the 'unused'
>> +  clocks.
>
> The above describes the set of problems, but doesn't set out the actual
> contract. It also covers a number of Linux implementation details in
> abstract.


Could you kindly be a little more specific which 'implementation 
details' you don't like?

E.g. to my understanding, the 'implementation detail' that Linux 
disables unregistered clocks is needed for the description.

If you have a different wording in mind, could you kindly share that?


> As I commented previously [1], the binding should describe the set of
> guarantees that you rewquire (e.g. that the clocks must be left as-is,
> not gated, and their rates left unchanged).
>
> Please describe the specific set of guarantees that you require.


To my understanding this is done, already: "avoid that these ... clocks 
are disabled"

Best regards

Dirk

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	<linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:45:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2431af6-f415-41db-5651-8cb8d3b08822@de.bosch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160705103917.GC20478@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

On 05.07.2016 12:39, Mark Rutland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 08:50:23AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
>> Some clocks might be used by the Xen hypervisor and not by the Linux
>> kernel. If these are not registered by the Linux kernel, they might be
>> disabled by clk_disable_unused() as the kernel doesn't know that they
>> are used. The clock of the serial console handled by Xen is one
>> example for this. It might be disabled by clk_disable_unused() which
>> stops the whole serial output, even from Xen, then.
>>
>> Up to now, the workaround for this has been to use the Linux kernel
>> command line parameter 'clk_ignore_unused'. See Xen bug
>>
>> http://bugs.xenproject.org/xen/bug/45
>>
>> too.
>>
>> To fix this, we will add the "unused" clocks in Xen to the hypervisor
>> node. The Linux kernel has to register the clocks from the hypervisor
>> node, then.
>>
>> Therefore, check if there is a "clocks" entry in the hypervisor node
>> and if so register the given clocks to the Linux kernel clock
>> framework and with this mark them as used. This prevents the clocks
>> from being disabled.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
>> ---
>> Changes in v2: Drop the Linux implementation details like clk_disable_unused
>> 	       in xen.txt.
>
> Thanks for doing this.
>
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt | 13 ++++++++
>>  arch/arm/xen/enlighten.c                      | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  2 files changed, 60 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> index c9b9321..21fd469 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> @@ -17,6 +17,19 @@ the following properties:
>>    A GIC node is also required.
>>    This property is unnecessary when booting Dom0 using ACPI.
>>
>> +Optional properties:
>> +
>> +- clocks: one or more clocks to be registered.
>> +  Xen hypervisor drivers might replace native drivers, resulting in
>> +  clocks not registered by these native drivers. To avoid that these
>> +  unregistered clocks are disabled by the Linux kernel initialization
>> +  register them in the hypervisor node.
>> +  An example for this are the clocks of a serial driver already enabled
>> +  by the firmware. If the clocks used by the serial hardware interface
>> +  are not registered by the serial driver itself the serial output
>> +  might stop once the Linux kernel initialization disables the 'unused'
>> +  clocks.
>
> The above describes the set of problems, but doesn't set out the actual
> contract. It also covers a number of Linux implementation details in
> abstract.


Could you kindly be a little more specific which 'implementation 
details' you don't like?

E.g. to my understanding, the 'implementation detail' that Linux 
disables unregistered clocks is needed for the description.

If you have a different wording in mind, could you kindly share that?


> As I commented previously [1], the binding should describe the set of
> guarantees that you rewquire (e.g. that the clocks must be left as-is,
> not gated, and their rates left unchanged).
>
> Please describe the specific set of guarantees that you require.


To my understanding this is done, already: "avoid that these ... clocks 
are disabled"

Best regards

Dirk

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: dirk.behme@de.bosch.com (Dirk Behme)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:45:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2431af6-f415-41db-5651-8cb8d3b08822@de.bosch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160705103917.GC20478@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

On 05.07.2016 12:39, Mark Rutland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 08:50:23AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
>> Some clocks might be used by the Xen hypervisor and not by the Linux
>> kernel. If these are not registered by the Linux kernel, they might be
>> disabled by clk_disable_unused() as the kernel doesn't know that they
>> are used. The clock of the serial console handled by Xen is one
>> example for this. It might be disabled by clk_disable_unused() which
>> stops the whole serial output, even from Xen, then.
>>
>> Up to now, the workaround for this has been to use the Linux kernel
>> command line parameter 'clk_ignore_unused'. See Xen bug
>>
>> http://bugs.xenproject.org/xen/bug/45
>>
>> too.
>>
>> To fix this, we will add the "unused" clocks in Xen to the hypervisor
>> node. The Linux kernel has to register the clocks from the hypervisor
>> node, then.
>>
>> Therefore, check if there is a "clocks" entry in the hypervisor node
>> and if so register the given clocks to the Linux kernel clock
>> framework and with this mark them as used. This prevents the clocks
>> from being disabled.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
>> ---
>> Changes in v2: Drop the Linux implementation details like clk_disable_unused
>> 	       in xen.txt.
>
> Thanks for doing this.
>
>>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt | 13 ++++++++
>>  arch/arm/xen/enlighten.c                      | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  2 files changed, 60 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> index c9b9321..21fd469 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/xen.txt
>> @@ -17,6 +17,19 @@ the following properties:
>>    A GIC node is also required.
>>    This property is unnecessary when booting Dom0 using ACPI.
>>
>> +Optional properties:
>> +
>> +- clocks: one or more clocks to be registered.
>> +  Xen hypervisor drivers might replace native drivers, resulting in
>> +  clocks not registered by these native drivers. To avoid that these
>> +  unregistered clocks are disabled by the Linux kernel initialization
>> +  register them in the hypervisor node.
>> +  An example for this are the clocks of a serial driver already enabled
>> +  by the firmware. If the clocks used by the serial hardware interface
>> +  are not registered by the serial driver itself the serial output
>> +  might stop once the Linux kernel initialization disables the 'unused'
>> +  clocks.
>
> The above describes the set of problems, but doesn't set out the actual
> contract. It also covers a number of Linux implementation details in
> abstract.


Could you kindly be a little more specific which 'implementation 
details' you don't like?

E.g. to my understanding, the 'implementation detail' that Linux 
disables unregistered clocks is needed for the description.

If you have a different wording in mind, could you kindly share that?


> As I commented previously [1], the binding should describe the set of
> guarantees that you rewquire (e.g. that the clocks must be left as-is,
> not gated, and their rates left unchanged).
>
> Please describe the specific set of guarantees that you require.


To my understanding this is done, already: "avoid that these ... clocks 
are disabled"

Best regards

Dirk

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-05 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-05  6:50 [PATCH v2] xen/arm: register clocks used by the hypervisor Dirk Behme
2016-07-05  6:50 ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05  6:50 ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 10:39 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:39 ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:39   ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:45   ` Dirk Behme [this message]
2016-07-05 10:45     ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 10:45     ` Dirk Behme
     [not found]     ` <b2431af6-f415-41db-5651-8cb8d3b08822-V5te9oGctAVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 11:07       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 11:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 11:07         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 23:38         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 23:38         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 23:38           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 23:38           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-05 11:07     ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-05 10:45   ` Dirk Behme
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-07-05  6:50 Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 10:32 Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 10:32 Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 10:32 ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 10:32 ` Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 14:21 ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:21 ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:21   ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 14:56   ` [Xen-devel] " Dirk Behme
2016-06-30 15:18     ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-30 15:33       ` Julien Grall
2016-06-30 14:56   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-05 13:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:53   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:53   ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:54   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:54   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:54     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 13:54     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02     ` Julien Grall
     [not found]     ` <577BBC1A.8020209-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-05 14:02       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:02         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:04       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:08       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:08         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:37           ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 14:08       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-05 14:04     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-05 13:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06  1:34 ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06  1:34 ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06  1:34   ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06  1:34   ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 13:10   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:10   ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:10     ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:16     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:16     ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:16       ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-07-06 13:26       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:26         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:26       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-06 13:48       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 13:48       ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 13:48         ` Mark Rutland
2016-07-06 20:42     ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 20:42       ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 20:42       ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-07  7:32       ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-07  7:32       ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-07  7:32         ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-07  7:32         ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  2:50         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  2:50           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  2:50           ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  5:51           ` [Xen-devel] " Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  9:21             ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  5:51           ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  2:50         ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-06 20:42     ` Michael Turquette
2016-07-08  6:48   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  6:48   ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  6:48     ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  6:48     ` Dirk Behme
2016-07-08  9:35     ` Julien Grall
     [not found]     ` <20733b68-9529-bdb9-2a7d-576c8193f15c-V5te9oGctAVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-08  9:35       ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  9:35         ` Julien Grall
2016-07-08  9:35         ` Julien Grall

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