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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:43:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1493217836.2526.10.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1704261633140.12121@cbobk.fhfr.pm>

On Wed, 2017-04-26 at 16:34 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2017, James Bottomley wrote:
> 
> > When we tried this in SCSI we had mixed results.  The problem is 
> > that holding up patches in this way causes even more complaints, so 
> > you have to be really disciplined about it (and up front about the
> > reasons).
 
> 
> Another problem is that sending e-mail containing 'Reviewed-by:' is 
> way too easy if it's being motivated by something else than a real 
> desire to actually perform the review.

Agreed, but I think you'll find most maintainers have a "trust factor"
for reviewers.  Perhaps we should discuss how we arrive at this and how
we should make it more public.  The way I often deal with less trusted
reviewers is to redo their review and point out all the things they
missed and ask them not to come back until they can be more thorough.

James

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-26 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-18 18:59 [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 19:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 20:21     ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:36       ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:29     ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:33     ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-18 21:15     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 22:36       ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-19 22:41         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-19 23:36           ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 23:51             ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20  1:04               ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-20  7:38                 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20  5:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-20 13:33             ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 14:40               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2017-04-20 14:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-04-20 14:47               ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-20 15:34                 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 11:25         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 15:37     ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 16:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 16:24         ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 18:11         ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-19 21:52           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-19 18:21         ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-20  8:31           ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 12:35             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-20 13:01               ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-21  8:41             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21 14:46               ` David Miller
2017-04-20  8:17         ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 10:59           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 12:22             ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 13:03               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 14:49             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 19:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 19:45         ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-19 19:50         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:55           ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20  8:26             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 13:25               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-25 16:02             ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-25 16:38               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-25 16:56               ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26  3:47                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26  8:39                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-26 14:21                   ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26 14:51                     ` David Miller
2017-04-26 15:15                       ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26  8:42               ` Dan Carpenter
2017-04-26 13:58                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:15                   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-04-26 15:42                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:31                   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 14:34                     ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-26 14:43                       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2017-04-27  9:06                         ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-27 10:41                           ` Lee Jones
2017-04-27 11:02                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-04-27 14:17                               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-28  0:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-27 15:40                           ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-26 15:02                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26 15:25                   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 15:36                     ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 20:14           ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 21:30             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-20  5:44             ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-20  8:54               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:58         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2017-04-19 20:20         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:00 ` Dave Airlie
2017-04-18 20:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-18 20:38   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-18 20:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 21:39       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 19:02         ` Mark Brown
2017-04-18 20:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-04-18 20:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-18 20:21   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-25 15:09     ` Chris Mason
2017-04-19  0:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2017-04-19 13:35   ` Shuah Khan
2017-04-19 20:20 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-19 20:27   ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20 10:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21  8:51     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21  8:55       ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-21  8:59       ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-21 14:45         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 10:34     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 15:06       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:37         ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 16:01   ` Dan Williams
2017-04-21 11:07   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 17:06     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-19 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20  8:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 11:30     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 13:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-24 14:02         ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 16:17         ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-24 17:29           ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 17:58             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-25  9:10           ` Lee Jones
2017-04-29 21:00             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-29 21:39               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-30 12:45                 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-30 19:12               ` Olof Johansson
2017-05-02  8:09               ` Lee Jones
2017-04-20 19:26     ` Mark Brown
2017-04-21 11:03   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-24 13:14     ` Nicolas Ferre
2017-04-19 21:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-19 21:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 17:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 18:17       ` Randy Dunlap
2017-05-23 18:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-23 20:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 19:29       ` James Bottomley
2017-05-24  3:34       ` David Miller
2017-05-24  4:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-21  0:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-09-20 14:45 ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:07   ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:22     ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:31       ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:58         ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 22:55           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-21  9:33             ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-09-21  4:54     ` James Morris

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